Two of Obama's sons murder a WWII vet

[Cap'n Cat]

Good Lord NO..!!!
Then we'd be like the chaos and war torn street of the Netherlands
You see what it's done to their country

Also Portugal.

And Colorado....

[Grizalltheway]

Good Lord NO..!!!
Then we'd be like the chaos and war torn street of the Netherlands
You see what it's done to their country

Also Portugal.

Something something defense spending something.

[kalm]

Also Portugal.

And Colorado....

Also Washington. It's practically Juarez here now.

[houndawg]

Drug violence would be much less if the demand wasn't so high from the United St......oh, you know that.

That argument makes ZERO sense. Unless, of course, you advocate making ALL drugs legal.

You would not see a bit of difference if all drugs were legal except for the lack of violence associated with the illegal trade and decreased government spending of billions of dollars that our government has spent on the fifty years of miserable failure known as the "war on drugs". This is about jobs for cops and nothing else. There is no pent-up demand of citizens just waiting for drugs to be legal so they can start using.

[AZGrizFan]

That argument makes ZERO sense. Unless, of course, you advocate making ALL drugs legal.

You would not see a bit of difference if all drugs were legal except for the lack of violence associated with the illegal trade and decreased government spending of billions of dollars that our government has spent on the fifty years of miserable failure known as the "war on drugs". This is about jobs for cops and nothing else. There is no pent-up demand of citizens just waiting for drugs to be legal so they can start using.

If you could figure out a way to make that happen WITHOUT me having to pay for the medical facilities to rehabilitate the users, I'd be all for it.

[Grizalltheway]

You would not see a bit of difference if all drugs were legal except for the lack of violence associated with the illegal trade and decreased government spending of billions of dollars that our government has spent on the fifty years of miserable failure known as the "war on drugs". This is about jobs for cops and nothing else. There is no pent-up demand of citizens just waiting for drugs to be legal so they can start using.

If you could figure out a way to make that happen WITHOUT me having to pay for the medical facilities to rehabilitate the users, I'd be all for it.

We could redirect the money we spend on incarcerating them now, but, of course, the prison-industrial complex would have none of that.

[Cap'n Cat]

Shit, never thoughta that, hounder. Imagine all the former-military jarhead PTSD wife-beatin' cops we could let loose on the streets.......... We wouldn't be spending money on Z's treatment centers, we'd spend it on treatment for ex-cops!

Fuck that. Keep drugs illegal!!!


"Iz all Reagan's fault."

[Ibanez]

That argument makes ZERO sense. Unless, of course, you advocate making ALL drugs legal.

You would not see a bit of difference if all drugs were legal except for the lack of violence associated with the illegal trade and decreased government spending of billions of dollars that our government has spent on the fifty years of miserable failure known as the "war on drugs". This is about jobs for cops and nothing else. There is no pent-up demand of citizens just waiting for drugs to be legal so they can start using.

The War on Drugs is a ploy to employ police officers?

[Baldy]

That argument makes ZERO sense. Unless, of course, you advocate making ALL drugs legal.

Good Lord NO..!!!
Then we'd be like the chaos and war torn street of the Netherlands
You see what it's done to their country

Fuck Chizzy, just when you actually start making a few posts that make a little sense and giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, you drop one stinky steaming pile of FAIL.

[Cap'n Cat]

Good Lord NO..!!!
Then we'd be like the chaos and war torn street of the Netherlands
You see what it's done to their country

Fuck Chizzy, just when you actually start making a few posts that make a little sense and giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, you drop one stinky steaming pile of FAIL.

Um, Brother Bald One.........

[kalm]

At the risk of being accused of joining the Chizzy/HD circle jerk, they are both 100% right here.

[D1B]

At the risk of being accused of joining the Chizzy/HD circle jerk, they are both 100% right here.

Hey, Klam took a definitive stand on something!

[CAA Flagship]

At the risk of being accused of joining the Chizzy/HD circle jerk, they are both 100% right here.

Hey, Klam took a definitive stand on something!

No. That was a gluten-free stand. It does not count.

[AZGrizFan]

At the risk of being accused of joining the Chizzy/HD circle jerk, they are both 100% right here.

Hey, Klam took a definitive stand on something!

[AZGrizFan]

You would not see a bit of difference if all drugs were legal except for the lack of violence associated with the illegal trade and decreased government spending of billions of dollars that our government has spent on the fifty years of miserable failure known as the "war on drugs". This is about jobs for cops and nothing else. There is no pent-up demand of citizens just waiting for drugs to be legal so they can start using.

The War on Drugs is a ploy to employ police officers?

Yeah. He sounds a bit like spandos there.

[kalm]

At the risk of being accused of joining the Chizzy/HD circle jerk, they are both 100% right here.

Hey, Klam took a definitive stand on something!

The world is grey dipshit. Go back to smoking Scott Walker's pole.

Spoiler: show

[kalm]

The War on Drugs is a ploy to employ police officers?

Yeah. He sounds a bit like spandos there.

This being about "cops and nothing else" is a bit reductionist, but think about how much money is spent on it. The militarization of local LE, drug courts, for-profit prisons, National Guard helicopters flying interdiction sorties, drug testing labs, mandatory rehab programs for non-addictive substances like pot etc. Christ the DEA alone has a $2 billion budget. It's a cottage industry with well connected lobbyists trade associations to maintain the status quo.

Big government conks...

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

And Colorado....

Also Washington. It's practically Juarez here now.

It was Juarez before.............

[AZGrizFan]

Also Washington. It's practically Juarez here now.

It was Juarez before.............

[houndawg]

You would not see a bit of difference if all drugs were legal except for the lack of violence associated with the illegal trade and decreased government spending of billions of dollars that our government has spent on the fifty years of miserable failure known as the "war on drugs". This is about jobs for cops and nothing else. There is no pent-up demand of citizens just waiting for drugs to be legal so they can start using.

The War on Drugs is a ploy to employ police officers?

"Ploy"?

Nice choice of words. Obviously that wasn't the original intention.



What else has the "War on Drugs" done for the past half-century besides create jobs for cops and prison guards?

[houndawg]

You would not see a bit of difference if all drugs were legal except for the lack of violence associated with the illegal trade and decreased government spending of billions of dollars that our government has spent on the fifty years of miserable failure known as the "war on drugs". This is about jobs for cops and nothing else. There is no pent-up demand of citizens just waiting for drugs to be legal so they can start using.

If you could figure out a way to make that happen WITHOUT me having to pay for the medical facilities to rehabilitate the users, I'd be all for it.

You're already paying for half a century of failure and the world's largest prison population.

[AZGrizFan]

If you could figure out a way to make that happen WITHOUT me having to pay for the medical facilities to rehabilitate the users, I'd be all for it.

You're already paying for half a century of failure and the world's largest prison population.

Good point. Let's just rebrand prisons into "treatment centers".

There. Problem solved.

[D1B]

You're already paying for half a century of failure and the world's largest prison population.

Good point. Let's just rebrand prisons into "treatment centers".

There. Problem solved.

Nope, Dummy McShithead, call em Conk Tanks. The only people who want drugs to remain illegal are conks and the drug cartels, who are also conks.

[houndawg]

Good point. Let's just rebrand prisons into "treatment centers".

There. Problem solved.

Nope, Dummy McShithead, call em Conk Tanks. The only people who want drugs to remain illegal are conks and the drug cartels, who are also conks.

They're just corporations avoiding taxes, what's wrong with that?

[Chizzang]

Good Lord NO..!!!
Then we'd be like the chaos and war torn street of the Netherlands
You see what it's done to their country

Fuck Chizzy, just when you actually start making a few posts that make a little sense and giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, you drop one stinky steaming pile of FAIL.

We'll never agree on this, I know that...
but if you can sincerely argue "Guns are not the problem" and I completely agree with that
I also can argue "drugs are not the problem"

I'm consistent in my argument / you are all over the map
Guys like Rush Limbaugh ought to be allowed to snort and smoke all the oxycodone they want... (right?)

Drugs and how to manage them need to be completely re-thunk (I like that word)
Insanity is doing the same damn thing over and over and expecting different results
The war on drugs has failed / will continue to fail / was destined to fail

The end..