How many American lives does that equal? We're talking muslims here. And is it an acceptable loss in return for all the awesome dirt cheap garments they make for us?




That's the world the conks want: no worker rights, dangerous working conditions, no regulations, no building inspectors, low pay, no benefits, 18 hour work days, massive pollution...93henfan wrote:Just saw the death toll is up to 1,127.
How many American lives does that equal? We're talking muslims here. And is it an acceptable loss in return for all the awesome dirt cheap garments they make for us?

It's the world they had until the benevolent unions and government regulators stepped in to save the country.D1B wrote:That's the world the conks want: no worker rights, dangerous working conditions, no regulations, no building inspectors, low pay, no benefits, 18 hour work days, massive pollution...93henfan wrote:Just saw the death toll is up to 1,127.
How many American lives does that equal? We're talking muslims here. And is it an acceptable loss in return for all the awesome dirt cheap garments they make for us?

This may have been an accident that all the regulation in the world couldnt have prevented. and those people CHOSE to work there.D1B wrote:That's the world the conks want: no worker rights, dangerous working conditions, no regulations, no building inspectors, low pay, no benefits, 18 hour work days, massive pollution...93henfan wrote:Just saw the death toll is up to 1,127.
How many American lives does that equal? We're talking muslims here. And is it an acceptable loss in return for all the awesome dirt cheap garments they make for us?
Sadly, this is 1 of many factories that produces for American companies like Wal-Mart.93henfan wrote:Just saw the death toll is up to 1,127.
How many American lives does that equal? We're talking muslims here. And is it an acceptable loss in return for all the awesome dirt cheap garments they make for us?


I don't shop at any of those stores.dbackjon wrote:
They DIED so you could have cheap clothes at Walmart.
Just last year, Walmart, The Gap, H&M etc REJECTED more oversight and a safety board.


AZGrizFan wrote:I don't shop at any of those stores.dbackjon wrote:
They DIED so you could have cheap clothes at Walmart.
Just last year, Walmart, The Gap, H&M etc REJECTED more oversight and a safety board.
I doubt all of your clothes are ethically manufactured.dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
I don't shop at any of those stores.
You don't wear clothes?

I agree - this has really brought home the fact that one has to pay attention.Ibanez wrote:I doubt all of your clothes are ethically manufactured.dbackjon wrote:
You don't wear clothes?
What shoes are you wearing?dbackjon wrote:I agree - this has really brought home the fact that one has to pay attention.Ibanez wrote:
I doubt all of your clothes are ethically manufactured.
I wish we had our textile industry here still.

Ibanez wrote:What shoes are you wearing?dbackjon wrote:
I agree - this has really brought home the fact that one has to pay attention.
I wish we had our textile industry here still.

Underwear?dbackjon wrote:Ibanez wrote:
What shoes are you wearing?
brown
No, brand? Nike, Puma, Doc Martens?dbackjon wrote:Ibanez wrote:
What shoes are you wearing?
brown
still brown.Grizalltheway wrote:Underwear?dbackjon wrote:
brown

Ibanez wrote:No, brand? Nike, Puma, Doc Martens?dbackjon wrote:
brown
Just pointing out the hypocrisy in your statement to TXProFlowersGrizFan.dbackjon wrote:Ibanez wrote: No, brand? Nike, Puma, Doc Martens?
Nunn-Bush. China.
And?

Ibanez wrote:Just pointing out the hypocrisy in your statement to TXProFlowersGrizFan.dbackjon wrote:
Nunn-Bush. China.
And?

Did I say that? No. I said I don't shop at those specific stores Jon mentioned. Period.Ibanez wrote:I doubt all of your clothes are ethically manufactured.dbackjon wrote:
You don't wear clothes?

I wasn't talking to you. Jon got on a high horse.AZGrizFan wrote:Did I say that? No. I said I don't shop at those specific stores Jon mentioned. Period.Ibanez wrote:
I doubt all of your clothes are ethically manufactured.![]()
The hypocrisy was in the implication of your, "you don't wear clothes" comment as if all of your clothing and home goods are ethically sourced.dbackjon wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Just pointing out the hypocrisy in your statement to TXProFlowersGrizFan.
Where is the hypocrisy? I don't think that word means what you think it does. Hypocrisy would be going out and buying some Bengali undies today.
I have already said that I have to do a better job in vetting my purchases. China is well up the scale from Bangladesh.
I also said I wish there were more clothes, etc made in the US.

Very good. My wife is finishing up her masters this week and her thesis was sustainable manufacturing. It's amazing what we can recycle. For instance, there are companies that turn PET bottles and the class from TV screens into shoes. Using organic fabrics and natural dyes help save the environment from pollution. It's pretty incredible.kalm wrote:John's right, this should at least make us pause and think about the ramifications of "free trade" and the moral, environmental, and long-term economic implications.
In other words...freedom and cheap shoes are really nice as long as I'm free and the consequences don't affect me.
In other words...WKOSSWJR?
(what kind of sweat shop would jebus run?)

They look like Obama predator victims.dbackjon wrote:
They DIED so you could have cheap clothes at Walmart.
Just last year, Walmart, The Gap, H&M etc REJECTED more oversight and a safety board.