Well, the church is pedophile factory and discriminates against atheists, women and gays. They're a corrupt cabal of money-laundering pervert homosexuals hell bent on world domination just like the Muslims. They own about half our politicians and are constantly buying beneficial legislation.89Hen wrote:It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.
So you go to church 1 day a year so you can be an asshole the other 364 ?CAA Flagship wrote:No joke. I'm Catholic and I don't care.89Hen wrote:It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.
Thanks for posting your sources.JoltinJoe wrote:Yes, of course they did. They did try to assassinate him.D1B wrote: You really think the Soviet Union gave a **** about anything from a pope?
Why do you think they did that?
Did you just call ME an asshole?kalm wrote:So you go to church 1 day a year so you can be an asshole the other 364 ?CAA Flagship wrote: No joke. I'm Catholic and I don't care.
Lazy Christians...
CAA Flagship wrote:Did you just call ME an asshole?kalm wrote:
So you go to church 1 day a year so you can be an asshole the other 364 ?
Lazy Christians...
He can at least for a litle while. You know how long it takes for Verizon to reconfigure the accounts. It may take half a year.Rob Iola wrote:Getting back to the current pope, now that he's resigning does this mean he can't talk directly with God anymore? Except, of course, through prayer like the rest of us?
That did it.kalm wrote:CAA Flagship wrote: Did you just call ME an asshole?
Fucking this!89Hen wrote:It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.
It's our OJ Simpson trial.andy7171 wrote:Fucking this!89Hen wrote:It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.
The pope is a world leader that has an effect on things. Why wouldn't they care?andy7171 wrote:Fucking this!89Hen wrote:It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.
If the funny hat doesn't fit, you must.........D1B wrote:It's our OJ Simpson trial.andy7171 wrote: Fucking this!
NOT GUILTY!D1B wrote:It's our OJ Simpson trial.andy7171 wrote: Fucking this!
Farewell to an Uninspiring Pope
By JOHN PATRICK SHANLEY
Published: February 11, 2013
POPE BENEDICT XVI quit. Good. He was utterly bereft of charm, tone-deaf and a protector of priests who abused children. He’d been a member of the Hitler Youth. In addition to this woeful résumé, he had no use for women.
The Roman Catholic Church, which in so many ways has been a great boon to the City of New York, has been choked and bludgeoned into insignificance by a small group of men based in Italy.
Priests cannot marry. Why? I will tell you why. Priests cannot marry because they would have to marry women. Women cannot be priests.
Why? Women cannot become priests because of a bunch of old men. These old men justify their beliefs with a brace of ridiculous arguments that Jesus would have overturned in a minute. “Do unto others as you would have them do to you.” What about that is hard to understand? If you can become a priest, I can become a priest. Period. Equality.
Benedict has not been idle. He has put in place a lot of other old guys who have no interest in sharing power with anyone outside the club. The last pope we had who showed signs of spiritual vision was John XXIII. That was a long time ago. He had humility and a good heart. These more recent appointments have been disheartening in the extreme.
When I was a kid at St. Anthony’s in the Bronx (one of the schools that the archdiocese of New York is now closing), there were boxes for the poor. The people of the East Bronx worked hard and made little. Everybody put money in those boxes. I put money in those boxes. As far as I’m concerned, that money was stolen.
I have watched the wealth of the Catholic Church turned into a subsidy for wrongdoing and a prop for the continuing campaign against women’s rights and homosexuality. Neighborhood churches, built with the hard-earned money of working-class people, are being sold off. The sacrifices that were made to build these churches were significant and local. The decision to close them has been made antiseptically, by remote control. The men who make these decisions are at a remove, very much involved in protecting their power and comfort.
I have little reason to hope that the Church of Rome will suddenly realize that without women, the Catholic Church is doomed, and should be doomed. I think of those good nuns who educated me, of their lifelong devotion and sacrifice. They have been treated like cattle by a crowd of domineering fools. In Benedict, the Catholic Church got the pope it deserved. I can only hope, for the sake of my parents, who loved the church so much, that a miracle of divine grace alters the writing on the wall. If not, the Catholic Church will suffer the fate it deserves.
John Patrick Shanley is the author of “Doubt” and other plays.
I'm not Catholic and I say more power to him. Enjoy a little time off rather than working until you check out.89Hen wrote:It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.
Would you please name names? K, thanks.JoltinJoe wrote:Cluck, when Ronald Reagan decalred in 1983 that he believed the Soviet Union was a "bizarre" government whose last days in history were now bring written, he was ridiculed by the foreign policy pundits. They said Reagan really believed naively that the USSR was just going to go away, and his foreign policy toward the USSR was dangerous,, confrontational, and based on the naive assumption that the Soviet Union was just going to go away.
If you lived through this time, you know that there was never a prevailing feeling that the USSR was doomed and was going to go away. Even in 1983, the Soviets remained firmly in control of Eastern Europe.
Now, since you lived through this period, you will no doubt recall that, in the years immediately preceding these events, the common consensus was that the US was losing the Cold War to the USSR. The Carter Administration proved particularly weak in dealing with the USSR, and it was often noted that Carter changed the Nixon Adminsitration's policy of "detente" into a de facto policy of appeasement. Brezhnev is said to have regarded Carter as weak and pliable. So, again, prior to May 1979, there absolutely was no prevailing opinion that the Soviets were doomed.
You can ignore the comment about John Paul being preserved. I said that to annoy the stupid and the faithless here. But it is a fact that all other seminarians in his seminary were sent to concentration camps, and that he successfully hid from his would-be captors.
As a fan of history and observing different religions, I find the Pope's resignation to be fascinating. It's not a care for the Catholic church as much as it is an interest in rare and momentous events.89Hen wrote:It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.
D1B - non-practicing CatholicASUMountaineer wrote:Would you please name names? K, thanks.JoltinJoe wrote:Cluck, when Ronald Reagan decalred in 1983 that he believed the Soviet Union was a "bizarre" government whose last days in history were now bring written, he was ridiculed by the foreign policy pundits. They said Reagan really believed naively that the USSR was just going to go away, and his foreign policy toward the USSR was dangerous,, confrontational, and based on the naive assumption that the Soviet Union was just going to go away.
If you lived through this time, you know that there was never a prevailing feeling that the USSR was doomed and was going to go away. Even in 1983, the Soviets remained firmly in control of Eastern Europe.
Now, since you lived through this period, you will no doubt recall that, in the years immediately preceding these events, the common consensus was that the US was losing the Cold War to the USSR. The Carter Administration proved particularly weak in dealing with the USSR, and it was often noted that Carter changed the Nixon Adminsitration's policy of "detente" into a de facto policy of appeasement. Brezhnev is said to have regarded Carter as weak and pliable. So, again, prior to May 1979, there absolutely was no prevailing opinion that the Soviets were doomed.
You can ignore the comment about John Paul being preserved. I said that to annoy the stupid and the faithless here. But it is a fact that all other seminarians in his seminary were sent to concentration camps, and that he successfully hid from his would-be captors.
You might want to keep an eye out for that ban hammer. I hear he hasn't got to use his lately and it makes him testy.andy7171 wrote:D1B - non-practicing CatholicASUMountaineer wrote:
Would you please name names? K, thanks.
kalm - unashamed PAGAN
dback - Obama supporter
vidav - arrogant Montananite
He doesn't have the balls to ban hammer me.grizzaholic wrote:You might want to keep an eye out for that ban hammer. I hear he hasn't got to use his lately and it makes him testy.andy7171 wrote: D1B - non-practicing Catholic
kalm - unashamed PAGAN
dback - Obama supporter
vidav - arrogant Montananite
Have you ever had Bacon and huckleberry jam before? It is fucking awesome!andy7171 wrote:He doesn't have the balls to ban hammer me.grizzaholic wrote:
You might want to keep an eye out for that ban hammer. I hear he hasn't got to use his lately and it makes him testy.
Grizza - worshiper of bacon and supplier of huckleberry jam.
Why yes. Yes I have. On an english muffin.grizzaholic wrote:Have you ever had Bacon and huckleberry jam before? It is fucking awesome!andy7171 wrote: He doesn't have the balls to ban hammer me.
Grizza - worshiper of bacon and supplier of huckleberry jam.
Because "they" don't really care who the pope is, they just want the church to close its doors. That aint happening.Vidav wrote:The pope is a world leader that has an effect on things. Why wouldn't they care?andy7171 wrote: Fucking this!
