Should Eric Holder step down over "Fast and Furious"?

[Wedgebuster]

Never been a big fan of these kind of movies. Have to admit, haven't seen it.

[ASUG8]

Never been a big fan of these kind of movies. Have to admit, haven't seen it.

They're about all kinds of illegal activity, with frequent crash and burn scenes.

[Ivytalk]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/20/politics/ ... ?hpt=hp_t1

President Barack Obama has asserted executive privilege over documents sought by a House committee investigating the botched Fast and Furious gun-running sting, according to a letter to the panel Wednesday from Deputy Attorney Gen. James Cole.
The move means the Department of Justice can withhold the documents from the House Oversight Committee, which was scheduled to consider a contempt measure Wednesday against Holder.
"I write now to inform you that the president has asserted executive privilege over the relevant post-February 4, 2011, documents," Cole wrote in a letter to committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California.

So much for transparency........folks should remember this in November.

Richard Milhous Obama!

[Ibanez]

Yes. He should step down, save whatever face he has left. Unfortunately, saying the documents you refuse to handover will prove your case is ridiculous. Innocent people don't run from the cops.

[polsongrizz]

Innocent people don't run from the cops.

Yes they do because most cops are corrupt.

[ASUG8]

Innocent people don't run from the cops.

Yes they do because most cops are corrupt.

Our government's lead attorney is getting a free pass from his attorney boss to help him evade questioning from other attorneys. It's a sad state of affairs.

[CitadelGrad]

Obama is asserting Executive Privilege in refusing to turn over the F&F documents. I'm wondering how he can use EP to refuse to turn over documents that he says he has never seen and at one time claimed did not exist.

[Ibanez]

Obama is asserting Executive Privilege in refusing to turn over the F&F documents. I'm wondering how he can use EP to refuse to turn over documents that he says he has never seen and at one time claimed did not exist.

He misremembered.

[AZGrizFan]

Innocent people don't run from the cops.

Yes they do because most cops are corrupt.

No bites today, pols?

[Bronco]

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Judge Napolitano says that this is not an appropriate venue for "Executive Privilege" as it is intended solely to cover communications directly to and from the President and only on subjects of national security and defense.

Issa should counter with: "By asserting Executive Privilege, Holder and Obama thereby admit that Obama had engaged in communication about Fast and Furious. Now we just need to uncover 'What did he know, and When did he know it?' "

[Ibanez]

[Bronco]

The family of slain Border Patrol agent Brian Terry have released the following statement, on the day the House Oversight Committee weighs a Contempt of Congress Resolution against Attorney General Holder, for his failure to disclose information related to Operation Fast and Furious.

Attorney General Eric Holder’s refusal to fully disclose the documents associated with Operation Fast and Furious and President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege serves to compound this tragedy. It denies the Terry family and the American people the truth.

Our son, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, was killed by members of a Mexican drug cartel armed with weapons from this failed Justice Department gun trafficking investigation. For more than 18 months we have been asking our federal government for justice and accountability. The documents sought by the House Oversight Committee and associated with
Operation Fast and Furious should be produced and turned over to the committee.

Our son lost his life protecting this nation, and it is very disappointing that we are now faced with an administration that seems more concerned with protecting themselves rather than revealing the truth behind Operation Fast and Furious.

[Grizalltheway]

No question it's time for him to step down at this point.

[AZGrizFan]

No question it's time for him to step down at this point.

That point was reached about a year ago, but welcome to the party.

[CitadelGrad]

No question it's time for him to step down at this point.

That point was reached about a year ago, but welcome to the party.

The point was reached as soon as he walked into his DOJ office for the first time. His decision to drop the voter intimidation charges against the Black Panthers should have resulted in Congress demanding his immediate resignation.

[Grizalltheway]

No question it's time for him to step down at this point.

That point was reached about a year ago, but welcome to the party.

Thanks. Where's the Bud Light?

[Ivytalk]

That point was reached about a year ago, but welcome to the party.

The point was reached as soon as he walked into his DOJ office for the first time. His decision to drop the voter intimidation charges against the Black Panthers should have resulted in Congress demanding his immediate resignation.

And don't forget the Marc Rich pardon.

Rule of law, my azz.

[kalm]

Yes they do because most cops are corrupt.

Our government's lead attorney is getting a free pass from his attorney boss to help him evade questioning from other attorneys. It's a sad state of affairs.

These are the cops.

Holder should step down for a number of reasons, but it's funny how EP was ok when it was used to defend Rove.

[Baldy]

Our government's lead attorney is getting a free pass from his attorney boss to help him evade questioning from other attorneys. It's a sad state of affairs.

These are the cops.

Holder should step down for a number of reasons, but it's funny how EP was ok when it was used to defend Rove.

Apples and oranges. Rove was a part of the White House staff and under the blanket of the executive branch. Holder is a part of the DOJ and subject to confirmation by the Senate and not covered by Executive Privilege.

The only way Obama could legally use EP is if the president or one of his staff is involved.
Holder is toast anyway. From my understanding, if a federal agent working undercover has to break the law as part of his duties as an undercover agent, the AG has to sign off on it personally. Holder had to know about F&F from day one.

[kalm]

These are the cops.

Holder should step down for a number of reasons, but it's funny how EP was ok when it was used to defend Rove.

Apples and oranges. Rove was a part of the White House staff and under the blanket of the executive branch. Holder is a part of the DOJ and subject to confirmation by the Senate and not covered by Executive Privilege.

The only way Obama could legally use EP is if the president or one of his staff is involved.
Holder is toast anyway. From my understanding, if a federal agent working undercover has to break the law as part of his duties as an undercover agent, the AG has to sign off on it personally. Holder had to know about F&F from day one.

That makes sense.

Like I said, Holder needs to go if for nothing else than his lack of prosecuting financial crimes. There some 1800 prosecutions related to the S&L crisis with something like half of them leading to convictions. Then again, conks always were more tough on crime.

[AZGrizFan]

These are the cops.

Holder should step down for a number of reasons, but it's funny how EP was ok when it was used to defend Rove.

Apples and oranges. Rove was a part of the White House staff and under the blanket of the executive branch. Holder is a part of the DOJ and subject to confirmation by the Senate and not covered by Executive Privilege.

The only way Obama could legally use EP is if the president or one of his staff is involved.
Holder is toast anyway. From my understanding, if a federal agent working undercover has to break the law as part of his duties as an undercover agent, the AG has to sign off on it personally. Holder had to know about F&F from day one.

Obama uses EP to prevent documents from being released that he claims he hasn't seen and that he claims don't exist.

Interesting.

[andy7171]

Apples and oranges. Rove was a part of the White House staff and under the blanket of the executive branch. Holder is a part of the DOJ and subject to confirmation by the Senate and not covered by Executive Privilege.

The only way Obama could legally use EP is if the president or one of his staff is involved.
Holder is toast anyway. From my understanding, if a federal agent working undercover has to break the law as part of his duties as an undercover agent, the AG has to sign off on it personally. Holder had to know about F&F from day one.

Obama uses EP to prevent documents from being released that he claims he hasn't seen and that he claims don't exist.

Interesting.

It will be interesting to see how he's going to explain that.

[bluehenbillk]

Honestly, and I know this will piss off partisanship but "I don't give a assFuck about Eric Holder".

What about the tax code?

What about the budget?

What about creating jobs?

What about health care?

What about the deficit?

What about social security?

What about energy resources?

What about our educational system?

It'd be nice to see Congress tackle you know one or two of these issues every now & then.....

[AZGrizFan]

Honestly, and I know this will piss off partisanship but "I don't give a assFuck about Eric Holder".

What about the tax code?

What about the budget?

What about creating jobs?

What about health care?

What about the deficit?

What about social security?

What about energy resources?

What about our educational system?

It'd be nice to see Congress tackle you know one or two of these issues every now & then.....

Well, they WOULD, but more pressing issues like Roger Clemens and boxing fixes are taking up the rest of their time.

[TheDancinMonarch]

Apples and oranges. Rove was a part of the White House staff and under the blanket of the executive branch. Holder is a part of the DOJ and subject to confirmation by the Senate and not covered by Executive Privilege.

The only way Obama could legally use EP is if the president or one of his staff is involved.
Holder is toast anyway. From my understanding, if a federal agent working undercover has to break the law as part of his duties as an undercover agent, the AG has to sign off on it personally. Holder had to know about F&F from day one.

Obama uses EP to prevent documents from being released that he claims he hasn't seen and that he claims don't exist.

Interesting.

But it was all the fault of the Bush Administration. That being the case why don't they release documents to prove it?