Ryan's prediction of the future of the BSC

Post by **kalm** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:50 pm

SuperHornet wrote:As much as I would like to agree with you there, AZ, I'm not so sure that UNC's programs that have won BSC titles (and, yes, they do exist) would appreciate moving back to D-II. There are very few programs that are allowed to remain at D-I when the football team is in D-II.

That said, for FOOTBALL, BOYS HOOPS, and BOYS TENNIS, UNC is way below par.

MENS

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:53 pm

You can go take a flying leap, too, kalm.

Post by **kalm** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:56 pm

SuperHornet wrote:You can go take a flying leap, too, kalm.

I can see you're mad here. I was just making sure if we were talking about collegiate athletics.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:57 pm

kalm wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:You can go take a flying leap, too, kalm.

I can see you're mad here. I was just making sure if we were talking about collegiate athletics.

I'm actually more upset with GATW right now.

Post by **kalm** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:57 pm

SuperHornet wrote:
kalm wrote:
I can see you're mad here. I was just making sure if we were talking about collegiate athletics.

I'm actually more upset with GATW right now.

Why?

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:07 pm

Because he's playing Mr. Misogynist today.

Post by **kalm** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:10 pm

SuperHornet wrote:Because he's playing Mr. Misogynist today.

What's wrong with misogyny? It's a counter-balance to feminism which has been out of control of late. Balance is important, SH.

But I get ya...nazi's

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:31 pm

Interesting article from Magicvalley.com based out of Idaho

http://magicvalley.com/sports/college/c ... 3ce6c.html

Even the Idaho media wants Idaho to go back to the Sky

Post by **EWURanger** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:33 pm

I'd say give UNC a little more time to prove their worth before sending them packing. Every conference has one or two teams that tend to be cellar-dwellars anyway. They do need to start improving, though.

I agree that UND would be a much better fit in the MVFC, but as long as they're in the Big Sky Conference I've got no problems with them. Time will tell if they stick around or not.

I still maintain that Idaho is a long-shot, but it's not outside the realm of possibility due to all the reasons states above.

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lakesbison · Post by **lakesbison** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:46 pm

when are you guys dumping the nicknamers?

Darell1976 · Post by **Darell1976** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:12 pm

lakesbison wrote:when are you guys dumping the nicknamers?

Sunday after never.

Post by **kalm** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:13 pm

lakesbison wrote:when are you guys dumping the nicknamers?

Whatever...SH.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:13 pm

EWURanger wrote:I'd say give UNC a little more time to prove their worth before sending them packing. Every conference has one or two teams that tend to be cellar-dwellars anyway. They do need to start improving, though.

I agree that UND would be a much better fit in the MVFC, but as long as they're in the Big Sky Conference I've got no problems with them. Time will tell if they stick around or not.

True, but when they're the cellar dweller AND they're a geographic outlier, it's TO THE CURB for you!

OptimusPrime · Post by **OptimusPrime** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:27 pm

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/m ... am-league/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
WCC adds Pacific as 10th team. If only Seattle U had waited just a little longer...

Post by **SDHornet** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:51 pm

Wildcat Ryan wrote:Interesting article from Magicvalley.com based out of Idaho

http://magicvalley.com/sports/college/c ... 3ce6c.html

Even the Idaho media wants Idaho to go back to the Sky

Staying at the FBS level merely to save face is a horrible idea, and for the sake of Vandals fans and alumni, their leadership is doing them a huge disservice if that is the prevailing mindset. Idaho football is a money loser, as evidenced by the three body-bag games it scheduled last year at Virginia, Texas A&M and BYU. It couldn’t even get a return date for BYU and will travel to Provo in back-to-back years, and will also play this year at LSU and North Carolina.

That is not a building block to success. It’s a ploy to keep the books balanced. In the 2009-10 school year, 51 percent of the revenue “generated” by the athletic department came from student fees, state coffers and the U of I itself.
Ticket sales, body-bag game guarantees, television money and conference revenue sharing from bowl games and NCAA tournament appearances? Just 21 percent.

Still waiting for a mover upper to explain what the advantage of going FBS is....I'll wait....

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:04 am

SDHornet wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:Interesting article from Magicvalley.com based out of Idaho

http://magicvalley.com/sports/college/c ... 3ce6c.html

Even the Idaho media wants Idaho to go back to the Sky

Staying at the FBS level merely to save face is a horrible idea, and for the sake of Vandals fans and alumni, their leadership is doing them a huge disservice if that is the prevailing mindset. Idaho football is a money loser, as evidenced by the three body-bag games it scheduled last year at Virginia, Texas A&M and BYU. It couldn’t even get a return date for BYU and will travel to Provo in back-to-back years, and will also play this year at LSU and North Carolina.

That is not a building block to success. It’s a ploy to keep the books balanced. In the 2009-10 school year, 51 percent of the revenue “generated” by the athletic department came from student fees, state coffers and the U of I itself.
Ticket sales, body-bag game guarantees, television money and conference revenue sharing from bowl games and NCAA tournament appearances? Just 21 percent.
Still waiting for a mover upper to explain what the advantage of going FBS is....I'll wait....

Its sad when an FCS team like Weber State has to schedule 2 fbs money games a year to keep books balanced, but for an FBS team to need to schedule 3? that's a whole lot worse.

Idaho is in no better shape than any of the FCS teams west of the Mississippi. And Idaho's football stadium (16,000) is smaller than 5 Big Sky Schools And Weber's 17,500 is the smallest of those 5. It could have some great upgrades, but it is still small and no matter what kind of upgrades it gets, teams like BYU are still not going to travel to Moscow.

Post by **EWURanger** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:40 pm

Wildcat Ryan wrote:
SDHornet wrote:

Still waiting for a mover upper to explain what the advantage of going FBS is....I'll wait....

Its sad when an FCS team like Weber State has to schedule 2 fbs money games a year to keep books balanced, but for an FBS team to need to schedule 3? that's a whole lot worse.

Idaho is in no better shape than any of the FCS teams west of the Mississippi. And Idaho's football stadium (16,000) is smaller than 5 Big Sky Schools And Weber's 17,500 is the smallest of those 5. It could have some great upgrades, but it is still small and no matter what kind of upgrades it gets, teams like BYU are still not going to travel to Moscow.

Yeeeep....

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Post by **SDHornet** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:39 am

EWURanger wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:

Its sad when an FCS team like Weber State has to schedule 2 fbs money games a year to keep books balanced, but for an FBS team to need to schedule 3? that's a whole lot worse.

Idaho is in no better shape than any of the FCS teams west of the Mississippi. And Idaho's football stadium (16,000) is smaller than 5 Big Sky Schools And Weber's 17,500 is the smallest of those 5. It could have some great upgrades, but it is still small and no matter what kind of upgrades it gets, teams like BYU are still not going to travel to Moscow.
Yeeeep....

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Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:53 am

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/540 ... t.html.csp

With the WAC losing Utah State and San Jose State to the MWC, and losing Lou Tech and UTSA to the CUSA, that leaves three WAC schools left.

N.Mex State
Idaho
Texas State

But hold on, according to this article, Texas State is hoping to announce thier new conference affiliation soon.

http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/sports/x ... low-to-WAC

And then there were two

Idaho
New Mexico State

And how will this affect the WAC's non football playing teams? Seattle, Denver and Boise State?

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:31 am

EWU beating the Vandals this fall will be the lynch pin for UI to move back down to the BSC or drop football.

Post by **SDHornet** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:59 am

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:EWU beating the Vandals this fall will be the lynch pin for UI to move back down to the BSC or drop football.

But hey, they play with the big boys…

JMUDuke2002 · Post by **JMUDuke2002** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:29 am

Wildcat Ryan wrote:http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/540 ... t.html.csp

With the WAC losing Utah State and San Jose State to the MWC, and losing Lou Tech and UTSA to the CUSA, that leaves three WAC schools left.

N.Mex State
Idaho
Texas State

But hold on, according to this article, Texas State is hoping to announce thier new conference affiliation soon.

http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/sports/x ... low-to-WAC

And then there were two

Idaho
New Mexico State

And how will this affect the WAC's non football playing teams? Seattle, Denver and Boise State?

With the soon to be death of the AQ, I'm wondering if Boise heads back to MWC further screwing the Big East.

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:00 am

JMUDuke2002 wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/540 ... t.html.csp

With the WAC losing Utah State and San Jose State to the MWC, and losing Lou Tech and UTSA to the CUSA, that leaves three WAC schools left.

N.Mex State
Idaho
Texas State

But hold on, according to this article, Texas State is hoping to announce thier new conference affiliation soon.

http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/sports/x ... low-to-WAC

And then there were two

Idaho
New Mexico State

And how will this affect the WAC's non football playing teams? Seattle, Denver and Boise State?
With the soon to be death of the AQ, I'm wondering if Boise heads back to MWC further screwing the Big East.

The Mountain West kicked Boise State's hoops team out because aside from Hawaii the Mtn West does not want affiliate members only, that is why Boise had to move thier hoops team to the WAC in the first place, I think Boise has 4 options, 1. Big West 2. Big Sky. 3. Summit 4. If and the biggest of if's, the Big East

Wildcat Ryan · Post by **Wildcat Ryan** » Tue May 01, 2012 5:52 am

GOOD BYE WAC FOOTBALL

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... y/18911274

Post by **SDHornet** » Tue May 01, 2012 7:20 am

Wildcat Ryan wrote:
JMUDuke2002 wrote:
With the soon to be death of the AQ, I'm wondering if Boise heads back to MWC further screwing the Big East.
The Mountain West kicked Boise State's hoops team out because aside from Hawaii the Mtn West does not want affiliate members only, that is why Boise had to move thier hoops team to the WAC in the first place, I think Boise has 4 options, 1. Big West 2. Big Sky. 3. Summit 4. If and the biggest of if's, the Big East

I think the BSC will be hesitant to take on Boise. Given their recent track record, they haven’t hesitated to pull their sports from one conference to another if a better situation opens up for them. Is that indecisiveness and lack of loyalty something the BSC aspires to have in its membership?

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