ODU's first CAA football victim

[PenthouseClosedEnd]

I like ODU to beat Umass in their 2nd CAA game.

[ODUalum11]

I like ODU to beat Umass in their 2nd CAA game.

What are the expectations for UMass this season? A lot of people are saying that will be ODU's first CAA win.

[Sirloinburger]

In 2010
Monmouth lost to Maine 23-31............. 14-10 Maine at Halftime
Monmouth lost to ODU 21-35............... 27-7 ODU at Halftime
Both games played @ Monmouth back to back but Monmouth had 2 weeks to rest for the ODU game.

Maine beat Towson 28-18
Maine beat Rhode Island 28-23
Maine beat New Hampshire 16-13

Played W&M close but lost 24-21
Played JMU close but lost 14-10
UMass beat Maine 39-24
Delaware beat Maine 26-7
Villanova beat Maine 48-18

So what does this mean for the 2 year football program at Old Dominion? I really don't know, I just go to the games for the funnel cakes. All kidding aside, I will only say this...ODU will be competitive this year.

[ODUalum11]

In 2010
Monmouth lost to Maine 23-31............. 14-10 Maine at Halftime
Monmouth lost to ODU 21-35............... 27-7 ODU at Halftime
Both games played @ Monmouth back to back but Monmouth had 2 weeks to rest for the ODU game.

Maine beat Towson 28-18
Maine beat Rhode Island 28-23
Maine beat New Hampshire 16-13

Played W&M close but lost 24-21
Played JMU close but lost 14-10
UMass beat Maine 39-24
Delaware beat Maine 26-7
Villanova beat Maine 48-18

So what does this mean for the 2 year football program at Old Dominion? I really don't know, I just go to the games for the funnel cakes. All kidding aside, I will only say this...ODU will be competitive this year.

If you want to use that logic you can also say from the WM game...

ODU lost to WM on a late TD.

WM lost to UMass 27-23.
WM lost to JMU 30-24.

Except I'm not sure if that can carry over from last season to this season. Obviously teams teams get better or worse from year to year.

I think in 2011 Wilder would love to see his team go undefeated in the CAA but he's a realist. I remember him saying while wins will be nice the one thing he cares about the most is seeing the team get better from week to week regardless if it results in wins or losses.

[COBBLESTONE]

I wouldn't bet against URI in this one. Much better chance it will be Towson in Norfolk.

Agree.

[ODUalum11]

I wouldn't bet against URI in this one. Much better chance it will be Towson in Norfolk.

Agree.

Well of course you would.

[PenthouseClosedEnd]

I like ODU to beat Umass in their 2nd CAA game.

What are the expectations for UMass this season? A lot of people are saying that will be ODU's first CAA win.

Over-talented and Under-performing like most every other year.

[Tribal]

In 2010
Monmouth lost to Maine 23-31............. 14-10 Maine at Halftime
Monmouth lost to ODU 21-35............... 27-7 ODU at Halftime
Both games played @ Monmouth back to back but Monmouth had 2 weeks to rest for the ODU game.

Maine beat Towson 28-18
Maine beat Rhode Island 28-23
Maine beat New Hampshire 16-13

Played W&M close but lost 24-21
Played JMU close but lost 14-10
UMass beat Maine 39-24
Delaware beat Maine 26-7
Villanova beat Maine 48-18

So what does this mean for the 2 year football program at Old Dominion? I really don't know, I just go to the games for the funnel cakes. All kidding aside, I will only say this...ODU will be competitive this year.

If you want to use that logic you can also say from the WM game...

ODU lost to WM on a late TD.

WM lost to UMass 27-23.
WM lost to JMU 30-24.

Except I'm not sure if that can carry over from last season to this season. Obviously teams teams get better or worse from year to year.

I think in 2011 Wilder would love to see his team go undefeated in the CAA but he's a realist. I remember him saying while wins will be nice the one thing he cares about the most is seeing the team get better from week to week regardless if it results in wins or losses.

W&M also beat Delaware, Villanova, Richmond, and New Hampshire. What's your point?

[Sirloinburger]

In 2010
Monmouth lost to Maine 23-31............. 14-10 Maine at Halftime
Monmouth lost to ODU 21-35............... 27-7 ODU at Halftime
Both games played @ Monmouth back to back but Monmouth had 2 weeks to rest for the ODU game.

Maine beat Towson 28-18
Maine beat Rhode Island 28-23
Maine beat New Hampshire 16-13

Played W&M close but lost 24-21
Played JMU close but lost 14-10
UMass beat Maine 39-24
Delaware beat Maine 26-7
Villanova beat Maine 48-18

So what does this mean for the 2 year football program at Old Dominion? I really don't know, I just go to the games for the funnel cakes. All kidding aside, I will only say this...ODU will be competitive this year.

If you want to use that logic you can also say from the WM game...

ODU lost to WM on a late TD.

WM lost to UMass 27-23.
WM lost to JMU 30-24.

Except I'm not sure if that can carry over from last season to this season. Obviously teams teams get better or worse from year to year.

I think in 2011 Wilder would love to see his team go undefeated in the CAA but he's a realist. I remember him saying while wins will be nice the one thing he cares about the most is seeing the team get better from week to week regardless if it results in wins or losses.

No. My example included 2 CAA teams and a common opponent played at their place, played early in the season and played back to back.

You forgot what you said a few posts ago:

I could very easily see any game being a possible blow out. While we barely lost to WM, a lot of people seem to forget that WM had missed three field goals, a costly interception at the beginning of the game when they had the ball and were driving, and another costly fumble that should have been a TD. WM left a ton of points off the scoreboard that night.

So yeah, the WM game isn't a good game to gauge how we would do in the CAA.

But it still will be hard to project what will happen. We'll see.

[ODUalum11]

If you want to use that logic you can also say from the WM game...

ODU lost to WM on a late TD.

WM lost to UMass 27-23.
WM lost to JMU 30-24.

Except I'm not sure if that can carry over from last season to this season. Obviously teams teams get better or worse from year to year.

I think in 2011 Wilder would love to see his team go undefeated in the CAA but he's a realist. I remember him saying while wins will be nice the one thing he cares about the most is seeing the team get better from week to week regardless if it results in wins or losses.

No. My example included 2 CAA teams and a common opponent played at their place, played early in the season and played back to back.

You forgot what you said a few posts ago:

I could very easily see any game being a possible blow out. While we barely lost to WM, a lot of people seem to forget that WM had missed three field goals, a costly interception at the beginning of the game when they had the ball and were driving, and another costly fumble that should have been a TD. WM left a ton of points off the scoreboard that night.

So yeah, the WM game isn't a good game to gauge how we would do in the CAA.

Yeah I remember that I said that but we're not going to play CAA teams 8 times this season and see 8 perfect peformances by our opponents.

[Tribe4SF]

No. My example included 2 CAA teams and a common opponent played at their place, played early in the season and played back to back.

You forgot what you said a few posts ago:



So yeah, the WM game isn't a good game to gauge how we would do in the CAA.

Yeah I remember that I said that but we're not going to play CAA teams 8 times this season and see 8 perfect peformances by our opponents.

Not perfect, but league games see a high level of play most every week.

[Tribal]

ODU can beat any CAA team any week; a lot can happen to change a game. W&M should have beaten UMass & JMU last season. The Tribe should have probably lost to UNH because W&M's 3rd string QB didn't even complete a pass (I think). It is what it is. Common opponents mean nothing because certain teams tend to play their closest rivals better. For example, UNH is ALWAYS a top CAA team as evidenced by their playoff run. But, they haven't done anything against W&M in 10 years. Nova has had W&M's number. By the "common opponent" logic, UNH shouldn't be within 30 points against Nova.

[Sirloinburger]

Coaches, Sports Handicappers, and fans alike use common opponent trends all the time when scouting and predicting outcomes. You simply can't discount it. It's one of many components used in gauging an opponent. Weather, day or night, injuries are other examples.

[Tribal]

Then I guess JMU could have won the ACC championship last season. I understand you said "trends." So, again, the trend is W&M beats up on UNH and Nova beats up on W&M. Thus, Nova should beat up on UNH.

[Sirloinburger]

Trends are what oddsmakers use to decide what the line will be on games. Other factors are involved too, just like I said.

When JMU beat Tech, that was viewed universally as an upset. So no, your ACC Championship example would be discounted. Like I said, there is a significant difference in my use here. Here we have two CAA teams that played a common opponent, not one in the beginning and one at the end of the season, but back to back. Also played at a common site. Now things can happen during the season but you can evaluate ODU by the outcome because the games were played so close together and at the opponents home field where no advantage is gained. I think ODU is more explosive than Maine.

I think I made my point that ODU is ready for conference play and will be competitive in every game.

[ODUfanRazor]

Sirloin you are nuts. I think odu will win at least 2, maybe 3 or even 4 caa games if we get lucky but come on man, you don't think we will get blown out even once next season?

Even great teams have really bad games. We play a pretty brutal caa slate....we will have at least one stinker next season, maybe 2.

But I will say this to the jmu donkey who thinks his team will beat us 38-13.....keep smoking that cheap crap and your brain will rot!

We may not beat jmu, but we will be JACKED up for that game like we were for the W&M game last year and will make it a damn competitive game. I think jmu pulls it out, but it damn sure won't be easy.

[UD1Hens]

We may not beat jmu, but we will be JACKED up for that game like we were for the W&M game last year and will make it a damn competitive game.

The biggest thing that ODU will learn is how to get jacked up for every game and not have an emotional letdown the following week. It's one thing to be jacked up for W&M coming off a snoozer vs Campbell and not worrying about the next week opponent in Monmouth. It's quite another to play JMU after an away game at Villanova, then play Richmond and William and Mary the following weeks. Sustaining the momentum is the toughest thing, that's why you often see a CAA team win a huge game one week and struggle against a team that they "should" dominate the next.

I expect ODU to be real competitive. I bet they are jacked up as all hell for the CAA opener at Delaware. I see they playing well that game it's just keeping an even head each week. This is probably a down year for the CAA so it's a good year for ODU to get their feet wet.

[ODUalum11]

Find it VERY interesting that 'Nova will be starting 6 true freshman...

Villanova coach Andy Talley said he will have six true freshmen in his starting lineup when the Wildcats meet Temple on Thursday night at Lincoln Financial Field.

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UDel fans will find the rest of that article interesting as well...

[Blue Hen Fanatic]

Any normal year, I'd say RIU, but they are a much improved program. So have to go with Towson this season for ODU's first CAA Victim.

[bluehenbillk]

Find it VERY interesting that 'Nova will be starting 6 true freshman...

Villanova coach Andy Talley said he will have six true freshmen in his starting lineup when the Wildcats meet Temple on Thursday night at Lincoln Financial Field.

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UDel fans will find the rest of that article interesting as well...

Nah, nothing new there. We've turned down a number of FBS games including playing in the Swamp vs Florida. UD would need a AppSt - Michigan payday to make it worth their while financially from what they make for home games, and KC just wants to be in the playoffs as often as possible. We have Navy this year & '13 & Pitt in '14 & '19.

[DaBigBlue]

Find it VERY interesting that 'Nova will be starting 6 true freshman...



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UDel fans will find the rest of that article interesting as well...

Nah, nothing new there. We've turned down a number of FBS games including playing in the Swamp vs Florida. UD would need a AppSt - Michigan payday to make it worth their while financially from what they make for home games, and KC just wants to be in the playoffs as often as possible. We have Navy this year & '13 & Pitt in '14 & '19.

That's the same reason why ODU doesn't need to hit the road for a FBS payday game. With 16K tickets sold at $25, $400K = ODU's gate at a home game. Plus the fans love the added home games and you need to get to 7 wins.

I'm thinking Towson might be the 1st, but something may happen before that game. I hope we surprise some teams, being picked next to last is good motivation for the team. The players and coaches know we are entering the toughest conference in the FCS and been working hard to get ready. The first year only 20 players stayed on campus during the summer, this year 74 players stay on campus to work out and they look very solid this year.

Is it Saturday yet, love the nite games.

[ODUalum11]

ODU escaped last night against Hampton 45-42. The performance was not very impressive at all...ODU is 3-0. Is last night's win the last of the season for the Monarchs? Bob Molinaro of the Virginian Pilot seems to think so.

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[ODUfanRazor]

Bob Molinaro is a complete moron. The next thing he gets right will be the first thing he gets right.

Remember that whole article he wrote about how the Virginia Destroyers would "never play a game and go bankrupt"?


Yeah, they played their first game this past week and won against the Omaha Destroyers. The lesson, as always, is Molinaro and most sports writers in general are complete idiots who have no clue.

If ODU fails to win another game this season I will never post here again and I'll mail Molinaro my life savings.

Our offense is far too good not to win another game. We've yet to be held under 40 points and we are 3-0. I'm not saying we are going to the FCS playoffs or anything but I'll be damned if we don't win 1 more freaking game this entire year.

If he knew ANYTHING about CAA football, he'd know that based on results so far, the CAA is having a fairly down year overall so if we were ever going to pick the right time to come into the CAA, this is the year.

God I hate that loser. You'd think your hometown sports writer would, you know, be pro ODU. What an *sshat.

[∞∞∞]

Isn't Molinaro the one who said we'd get thrashed by W&M, that'd it'd be a blowout we'd yet to experience, and etc.?

[JmuSkinsfan]

ODU will beat Villanova ... so there's one win. I don't know about Towson, but they appear to be for real ... and if they are ... it would be tough to beat them. URI, maybe. ODU certainly has the weapons on offense but looks like their defense is a bit suspect.

ODU will not be favored against: Delaware, JMU, WM, Richmond or UMass
ODU MIGHT be favored against Villanova
ODU could have push games against URI/Towson

I say ODU beats Villanova ... and has a shot at splitting with Towson/URI ... but should go 0-5 against the top 5 CAA teams ... finishing with either a 1-7 or 2-6 conference record and an overall record of 4-7/5-6