I'm not sure what he's looked like in fall camp, but we have a true Freshman defensive tackle that goes 6'4 320.....I imagine he's pretty raw and probably needs a RS year. But I'm glad to see we're starting to get big defensive tackles out of HS now that don't have to spend 2 or 3 years putting on 50 pounds.cats2506 wrote:Jolly took the lions share of the double teams last year, that is why you want a good big strong NT, it is why I said way last winter that it would be interesting to see what Williams can do without Jolly beside him. Then when you lost your transfer it became a problem again. If you don't have a strong enough NT then it will allow teams to double Williams regularly and shut him down.eaglesfootball wrote:Renard faces constant double teams and we were hoping that would be alleviated a little with the addition of Pulu who sadly wont be able to play until 2012. i am not even sure who our other starting DT is going to be now.
the NT is the unsung hero of the 4-3 IMO, they are usually in a knife fight in the middle, good ones require a double team, while the NT doesnt make a lot of tackles, its what they do that allows the 3 tech, ends and LB's to make the plays. A good NT makes a 3 tech better, Jolly was a pretty solid NT
Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
Here's my prediction:
*1. Montana 8-0
*2.MSU 7-1
*3 Sac st 6-2 (beats EWU and keeps them out of the playoffs)
4. EWU 5-3
5. WSU 5-3
6. NAU 4-4
7.PSU-3-5
8. UNC 2-6
9. ISU 1-8
*All three make playoffs with UM taking the AQ with a 10-1 record.
*1. Montana 8-0
*2.MSU 7-1
*3 Sac st 6-2 (beats EWU and keeps them out of the playoffs)
4. EWU 5-3
5. WSU 5-3
6. NAU 4-4
7.PSU-3-5
8. UNC 2-6
9. ISU 1-8
*All three make playoffs with UM taking the AQ with a 10-1 record.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
GRIZ MOBSTER wrote:Here's my prediction:
*1. Montana 8-0
*2.MSU 7-1
*3 Sac st 6-2 (beats EWU and keeps them out of the playoffs)
4. EWU 5-3
5. WSU 5-3
6. NAU 4-4
7.PSU-3-5
8. UNC 2-6
9. ISU 1-8
*All three make playoffs with UM taking the AQ with a 10-1 record.
Looks like somebody spiked your everclear with koolaid.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
You beat Western Washington by 3, Montana by 2 (in reality), NAU by 7, UNC by 7, Sac State by 4 and SUU by 7.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:GRIZ MOBSTER wrote:Here's my prediction:
*1. Montana 8-0
*2.MSU 7-1
*3 Sac st 6-2 (beats EWU and keeps them out of the playoffs)
4. EWU 5-3
5. WSU 5-3
6. NAU 4-4
7.PSU-3-5
8. UNC 2-6
9. ISU 1-8
*All three make playoffs with UM taking the AQ with a 10-1 record.![]()
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Looks like somebody spiked your everclear with koolaid.
Yeah, you got on a nice run in the playoffs, but with only 4 home games and so many close games last year, I can EASILY see you losing 3 league games this year.
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Meh, it's all relative. I seem to recall Montana winning several tight games during many of their championship run years. That's the difference between good teams and great teams - the great ones know how to win the close games, which is really what Montana had going for a long time.
In reality, I don't see too many teams being blown out in the Big Sky this year, save perhaps the bottom three. I think most conference games will be pretty close-scoring.
In reality, I don't see too many teams being blown out in the Big Sky this year, save perhaps the bottom three. I think most conference games will be pretty close-scoring.

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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
FIFY.AZGrizFan wrote:You beat Central Washington by 3, Montana by 3 (in reality), NAU by 7, UNC by 7, Sac State by 4 and SUU by 7.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:![]()
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Looks like somebody spiked your everclear with koolaid.
Yeah, you got on a nice run in the playoffs, but with only 4 home games and so many close games last year, I can EASILY see you losing 3 league games this year.
You beat Sac State by 3, PSU by 2, and NAU by 3. With a coach who fumbles his own dick and breaking in a new QB and RB, I can EASILY see the Griz losing 6 league games this year.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
Very true. But Montana's play has nowhere to go but UP from last year's debacle. EWE's has nowhere to go but DOWN.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:FIFY.AZGrizFan wrote:
You beat Central Washington by 3, Montana by 3 (in reality), NAU by 7, UNC by 7, Sac State by 4 and SUU by 7.
Yeah, you got on a nice run in the playoffs, but with only 4 home games and so many close games last year, I can EASILY see you losing 3 league games this year.
You beat Sac State by 3, PSU by 2, and NAU by 3. With a coach who fumbles his own dick and breaking in a new QB and RB, I can EASILY see the Griz losing 6 league games this year.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
And that's where your JBB mindset has you blinded. BLM isn't going to struggle so much early on like he did last year when learning the offense and gelling with his WRs. Our line is bigger and more experienced (only lost one starter, RG), and we are DEEP at WR, including the addition of BLM's brother who is 6'2 and has some of the surest hands I've seen from an EWU receiver. We may not have a home-run hitter every play like we had with TJ, but we have a lot of good backs who can move the chains. Look for us to have longer drives, chewing up more clock. Opponents will score less on us because they're going to have the ball less. Last year we just gave it right back to them after TJ ripped 'em for 60+ yards and a TD.AZGrizFan wrote:Very true. But Montana's play has nowhere to go but UP from last year's debacle. EWE's has nowhere to go but DOWN.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
FIFY.
You beat Sac State by 3, PSU by 2, and NAU by 3. With a coach who fumbles his own dick and breaking in a new QB and RB, I can EASILY see the Griz losing 6 league games this year.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
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Screamin', I don't see how the Bureau of Land Management has anything to do with this thread.
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Screamin', I don't see how the Bureau of Land Management has anything to do with this thread.
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Screamin', I don't see how the Bureau of Land Management has anything to do with this thread.
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Well, if you take away the Renard TD at the end of the game, we actually beat you by 3, not 2. The game was tied at 24 before we scored the go-ahead FG.AZGrizFan wrote:You beat Western Washington by 3, Montana by 2 (in reality), NAU by 7, UNC by 7, Sac State by 4 and SUU by 7.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:![]()
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Looks like somebody spiked your everclear with koolaid.
Yeah, you got on a nice run in the playoffs, but with only 4 home games and so many close games last year, I can EASILY see you losing 3 league games this year.
And why do some of you guys like to take away that play like it was some sort of imaginary TD? After the game some even went as far as to say that TD "didn't count".

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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
It was knotted at 27 before the go-ahead FG.EWURanger wrote:Well, if you take away the Renard TD at the end of the game, we actually beat you by 3, not 2. The game was tied at 24 before we scored the go-ahead FG.AZGrizFan wrote:
You beat Western Washington by 3, Montana by 2 (in reality), NAU by 7, UNC by 7, Sac State by 4 and SUU by 7.
Yeah, you got on a nice run in the playoffs, but with only 4 home games and so many close games last year, I can EASILY see you losing 3 league games this year.
And why do some of you guys like to take away that play like it was some sort of imaginary TD? After the game some even went as far as to say that TD "didn't count".So I guess if UM had scored on a Hail Mary that also shouldn't have counted?
You got a free play at the end of the game. Ceja stripped Roper and Renard ran it in. Not our fault Roper just stood there and watched the play unfold.
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AZGrizFan wrote:You beat Western Washington by 3, Montana by 2 (in reality), NAU by 7, UNC by 7, Sac State by 4 and SUU by 7.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:![]()
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Looks like somebody spiked your everclear with koolaid.
Yeah, you got on a nice run in the playoffs, but with only 4 home games and so many close games last year, I can EASILY see you losing 3 league games this year.
That is impressive... or not. I can't tell
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I'm not saying it "didn't count". I'm saying it was a garbage touchdown scored when we were in desparation mode on the last play of the game. The game was MUCH closer than the 9 point differential would have you think. IN fact, you were LOSING with 4 seconds to go, I believe.EWURanger wrote:Well, if you take away the Renard TD at the end of the game, we actually beat you by 3, not 2. The game was tied at 24 before we scored the go-ahead FG.AZGrizFan wrote:
You beat Western Washington by 3, Montana by 2 (in reality), NAU by 7, UNC by 7, Sac State by 4 and SUU by 7.
Yeah, you got on a nice run in the playoffs, but with only 4 home games and so many close games last year, I can EASILY see you losing 3 league games this year.
And why do some of you guys like to take away that play like it was some sort of imaginary TD? After the game some even went as far as to say that TD "didn't count".So I guess if UM had scored on a Hail Mary that also shouldn't have counted?
You got a free play at the end of the game. Ceja stripped Roper and Renard ran it in. Not our fault Roper just stood there and watched the play unfold.
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Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:It was knotted at 27 before the go-ahead FG.EWURanger wrote:
Well, if you take away the Renard TD at the end of the game, we actually beat you by 3, not 2. The game was tied at 24 before we scored the go-ahead FG.
And why do some of you guys like to take away that play like it was some sort of imaginary TD? After the game some even went as far as to say that TD "didn't count".So I guess if UM had scored on a Hail Mary that also shouldn't have counted?
You got a free play at the end of the game. Ceja stripped Roper and Renard ran it in. Not our fault Roper just stood there and watched the play unfold.
30-7 leaves no doubt though
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AZGrizFan wrote:I'm not saying it "didn't count". I'm saying it was a garbage touchdown scored when we were in desparation mode on the last play of the game. The game was MUCH closer than the 9 point differential would have you think. IN fact, you were LOSING with 4 seconds to go, I believe.EWURanger wrote:
Well, if you take away the Renard TD at the end of the game, we actually beat you by 3, not 2. The game was tied at 24 before we scored the go-ahead FG.
And why do some of you guys like to take away that play like it was some sort of imaginary TD? After the game some even went as far as to say that TD "didn't count".So I guess if UM had scored on a Hail Mary that also shouldn't have counted?
You got a free play at the end of the game. Ceja stripped Roper and Renard ran it in. Not our fault Roper just stood there and watched the play unfold.
You'd think math would be your strong suit.
9-6=3. 3-3=0. The game was tied at 27 with 4 seconds left.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
16-4 over the last two decades also leaves no doubt.cats2506 wrote:Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
It was knotted at 27 before the go-ahead FG.
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What about a defense do you have one of those??
Hmm.. I'm not convinced.
Hmm.. I'm not convinced.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
We return 7 starters on a D that forced the most turnovers in FCS last year by a wide-margin. 2 of them are Buchanan Candidates, 3 are All-Americans, and 4 are All-Big Sky players. We may have lost Sherritt, but fellow LB Zach Johnson managed to get 134 tackles, 18 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 5 pass-breakups, 2 recovered fumbles and 1 forced fumble... all while playing right next to Sherritt and the numbers he put up. So the answer is yes.GRIZ MOBSTER wrote:What about a defense do you have one of those??
Hmm.. I'm not convinced.
We do our convincing on the field.
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Re: Big Sky Standings Prediction Thread
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:We return 7 starters on a D that forced the most turnovers in FCS last year by a wide-margin. 2 of them are Buchanan Candidates, 3 are All-Americans, and 4 are All-Big Sky players. We may have lost Sherritt, but fellow LB Zach Johnson managed to get 134 tackles, 18 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 5 pass-breakups, 2 recovered fumbles and 1 forced fumble... all while playing right next to Sherritt and the numbers he put up. So the answer is yes.GRIZ MOBSTER wrote:What about a defense do you have one of those??
Hmm.. I'm not convinced.
We do our convincing on the field.
Im sorry, but that was well said

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I stand corrected. The Griz tied the game with 1:33 to go and EWE went ahead by 3 with 4 seconds to go.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:AZGrizFan wrote: I'm not saying it "didn't count". I'm saying it was a garbage touchdown scored when we were in desparation mode on the last play of the game. The game was MUCH closer than the 9 point differential would have you think. IN fact, you were LOSING with 4 seconds to go, I believe.![]()
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You'd think math would be your strong suit.
9-6=3. 3-3=0. The game was tied at 27 with 4 seconds left.
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Apology accepted.Wildcat Ryan wrote:Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
We return 7 starters on a D that forced the most turnovers in FCS last year by a wide-margin. 2 of them are Buchanan Candidates, 3 are All-Americans, and 4 are All-Big Sky players. We may have lost Sherritt, but fellow LB Zach Johnson managed to get 134 tackles, 18 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 5 pass-breakups, 2 recovered fumbles and 1 forced fumble... all while playing right next to Sherritt and the numbers he put up. So the answer is yes.
We do our convincing on the field.
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Don't cry when you go 5-3 in league play then.Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:We return 7 starters on a D that forced the most turnovers in FCS last year by a wide-margin. 2 of them are Buchanan Candidates, 3 are All-Americans, and 4 are All-Big Sky players. We may have lost Sherritt, but fellow LB Zach Johnson managed to get 134 tackles, 18 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 5 pass-breakups, 2 recovered fumbles and 1 forced fumble... all while playing right next to Sherritt and the numbers he put up. So the answer is yes.GRIZ MOBSTER wrote:What about a defense do you have one of those??
Hmm.. I'm not convinced.
We do our convincing on the field.
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UNC should be notched up with a couple more wins because of our new transfer LB from K-State. Yeah, he's that good.


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