How Playing an FBS Team Prepared Villanova to Win the NC

[Appaholic]

I posted this on e-griz as a response to a Griz fan insisting we need to play an FBS school to "prepare" for the playoffs. Apparently Talley credited the tough schedule and their FBS game for preparing his team. I wonder what happened in his FIRST 24 years as the head coach?

2009 - Temple; National Champions
2008 - West Virginia; 2nd round loss
2007 - Maryland; home for Thanksgiving
2006 - Central Florida; home for Thanksgiving
2005 - Rutgers; home for Thanksgiving
2004 - None; home for Thanksgiving
2003 - Temple; home for Thanksgiving
2002 - Rutgers; Semifinals loss
2001 - None; home for Thanksgiving
2000 - Rutgers; home for Thanksgiving
1999 - Air Force; home for Thanksgiving
1998 - Pitt; Home for Thanksgiving
1997 - None; 2nd round loss
1996 - Rutgers; 1st round loss
1995 - Navy; Home for Thanksgiving
1994 - None; home for Thanksgiving
1993 - None; home for Thanksgiving

By my count that's TWELVE FBS games they've played since Montana started our 17 year stretch of playoffs. All that preparation has gotten them a total of FOUR playoff appearances, and before this year they'd made it to the semi's exactly ONCE. In that same timeframe the Griz have 17 straight playoff appearances, 7 NC game appearances, 2 National Titles and a slew of semi-final appearances.

I don't know about you, but I DEFINITELY see a connection.

Nice gradeschool logic Joltin Joe.

Agree....you'd have to be blind not to see how playing Iowa helped Northern Iowa in the playoffs this year.....

[BlueHen86]

Nice gradeschool logic Joltin Joe.

Agree....you'd have to be blind not to see how playing Iowa helped Northern Iowa in the playoffs this year.....

That is the main problem with playing an FBS, you might lose. If UNI had scheduled a lesser FCS team and won they might have been in the playoffs.

[Appaholic]

Agree....you'd have to be blind not to see how playing Iowa helped Northern Iowa in the playoffs this year.....

That is the main problem with playing an FBS, you might lose. If UNI had scheduled a lesser FCS team and won they might have been in the playoffs.

Or they could have just blocked the Iowa defensive lineman on 1 of their 2 opportunities.....



(BH, let me have some fun at D1B, Cappy & Clenz's expense.... )

[putter]

Honestly, did ISU play anyone this year that was as deep or quality as Oklahoma?

Did ISU beat Oklahoma?

No but playing the Sooners, in this theory, should have prepared ISU to win the Big Sky. One could argue that no one on the FCS level was a deep or strong as Oklahoma.

[JMU DJ]

Did ISU beat Oklahoma?

No but playing the Sooners, in this theory, should have prepared ISU to win the Big Sky. One could argue that no one on the FCS level was a deep or strong as Oklahoma.

Just sayin, again, that all the teams that beat FBS opponents were in the playoffs this year.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

No but playing the Sooners, in this theory, should have prepared ISU to win the Big Sky. One could argue that no one on the FCS level was a deep or strong as Oklahoma.

Just sayin, again, that all the teams that beat FBS opponents were in the playoffs this year.

They beat the FBS opponents in the first or second game of the year. What was it that prepared them to beat the FBS opponent if it was the first game of the year?

Playing the FBS didn't hurt any of the teams that won the game it probably did help them rev up for the rest of the year but it did a lot of damage to most of the 4 loss teams with the FBS game.

The answer in case you are still wondering is that TALENT & COACHING gave the teams that took out FBS opponents the victory.

[AZGrizFan]

Just sayin, again, that all the teams that beat FBS opponents were in the playoffs this year.

They beat the FBS opponents in the first or second game of the year. What was it that prepared them to beat the FBS opponent if it was the first game of the year?

Playing the FBS didn't hurt any of the teams that won the game it probably did help them rev up for the rest of the year but it did a lot of damage to most of the 4 loss teams with the FBS game.

The answer in case you are still wondering is that TALENT & COACHING gave the teams that took out FBS opponents the victory.

Well said, Obe-wan.

[D1B]

They beat the FBS opponents in the first or second game of the year. What was it that prepared them to beat the FBS opponent if it was the first game of the year?

Playing the FBS didn't hurt any of the teams that won the game it probably did help them rev up for the rest of the year but it did a lot of damage to most of the 4 loss teams with the FBS game.

The answer in case you are still wondering is that TALENT & COACHING gave the teams that took out FBS opponents the victory.

Well said, Obe-wan.

Huckleberry, while you were jacking off, slamming Mad Dog 20/20 and smoking KOOLS under the bleachers with high school kids, I was actually playing the game. You go up against bigger and better teams and you get better. Then, when you have to go up against a big and maybe better team like Montana, you are ready. Is it the only thing that contributes to a team's success, Joltin Joe? Of course not, but it helps. Maybe provided the edge that Montana needed the last couple years.

Montana is good but until they get out of that half assed conference and then play someone good OOC, they will be perennial bridesmaids, or worse. It's actually fun, now, watching their misery.

[AZGrizFan]

Well said, Obe-wan.

Huckleberry, while you were jacking off, slamming Mad Dog 20/20 and smoking KOOLS under the bleachers with high school kids, I was actually playing the game. You go up against bigger and better teams and you get better. Then, when you have to go up against a big and maybe better team like Montana, you are ready. Is it the only thing that contributes to a team's success, Joltin Joe? Of course not, but it helps. Maybe provided the edge that Montana needed the last couple years.

Montana is good but until they get out of that half assed conference and then play someone good OOC, they will be perennial bridesmaids, or worse. It's actually fun, now, watching their misery.

As opposed to UNI, which can't even get out of their conference.

But, expertise noted. Now shut your fucking yapper about anything military-related. Deal?

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Huckleberry, while you were jacking off, slamming Mad Dog 20/20 and smoking KOOLS under the bleachers with high school kids, I was actually playing the game. You go up against bigger and better teams and you get better. Then, when you have to go up against a big and maybe better team like Montana, you are ready. Is it the only thing that contributes to a team's success, Joltin Joe? Of course not, but it helps. Maybe provided the edge that Montana needed the last couple years.

Montana is good but until they get out of that half assed conference and then play someone good OOC, they will be perennial bridesmaids, or worse. It's actually fun, now, watching their misery.

As opposed to UNI, which can't even get out of their conference.

But, expertise noted. Now shut your fucking yapper about anything military-related. Deal?

[D1B]

Huckleberry, while you were jacking off, slamming Mad Dog 20/20 and smoking KOOLS under the bleachers with high school kids, I was actually playing the game. You go up against bigger and better teams and you get better. Then, when you have to go up against a big and maybe better team like Montana, you are ready. Is it the only thing that contributes to a team's success, Joltin Joe? Of course not, but it helps. Maybe provided the edge that Montana needed the last couple years.

Montana is good but until they get out of that half assed conference and then play someone good OOC, they will be perennial bridesmaids, or worse. It's actually fun, now, watching their misery.

As opposed to UNI, which can't even get out of their conference.

But, expertise noted. Now shut your fucking yapper about anything military-related. Deal?

UNI Smack? You really think I give a fuck? Football aint my life.

Again, is it the only thing? NO, but it helps.

Also, Montana would be losing earlier if they had to travel. All they have to do is win that pussy conference and they're guaranteed a trip to Chatty cuz they'll be playing at home, no matter what.

[D1B]

As opposed to UNI, which can't even get out of their conference.

But, expertise noted. Now shut your fucking yapper about anything military-related. Deal?

Stay out of this Slappy. This is tween me and Cactus Jack.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Stay out of this Slappy. This is tween me and Cactus Jack.

kermit I wasn't really getting into it and I know you don't want me to...you're trying to get your life back together so you don't need a set back like the inevitable ass kicking that hangs over your head if I do get motivated. The way AZ has been softening you up it just wouldn't be fair for me to come in now and pick your bones clean.

Apology accepted & you're welcome.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Just sayin, again, that all the teams that beat FBS opponents were in the playoffs this year.

Central Arkansas wasn't (& they wouldn't have been even if they were eligible as they lost their last 5 games).

[BlueHen86]

Well said, Obe-wan.

Huckleberry, while you were jacking off, slamming Mad Dog 20/20 and smoking KOOLS under the bleachers with high school kids, I was actually playing the game. You go up against bigger and better teams and you get better. Then, when you have to go up against a big and maybe better team like Montana, you are ready. Is it the only thing that contributes to a team's success, Joltin Joe? Of course not, but it helps. Maybe provided the edge that Montana needed the last couple years.

Montana is good but until they get out of that half assed conference and then play someone good OOC, they will be perennial bridesmaids, or worse. It's actually fun, now, watching their misery.

That is pretty much true in every sport. I find it comical that a coach with a NC under his belt says that playing an FBS helped his team, and the coaching geniuses on this site are telling him he is wrong.

[AZGrizFan]

Huckleberry, while you were jacking off, slamming Mad Dog 20/20 and smoking KOOLS under the bleachers with high school kids, I was actually playing the game. You go up against bigger and better teams and you get better. Then, when you have to go up against a big and maybe better team like Montana, you are ready. Is it the only thing that contributes to a team's success, Joltin Joe? Of course not, but it helps. Maybe provided the edge that Montana needed the last couple years.

Montana is good but until they get out of that half assed conference and then play someone good OOC, they will be perennial bridesmaids, or worse. It's actually fun, now, watching their misery.

That is pretty much true in every sport. I find it comical that a coach with a NC under his belt says that playing an FBS helped his team, and the coaching geniuses on this site are telling him he is wrong.

I've never said he was wrong. I just wonder why it didn't help him the other ELEVEN times they played an FBS team. Once you explain that to me, I'll request the Mods close the thread.

[BlueHen86]

That is pretty much true in every sport. I find it comical that a coach with a NC under his belt says that playing an FBS helped his team, and the coaching geniuses on this site are telling him he is wrong.

I've never said he was wrong. I just wonder why it didn't help him the other ELEVEN times they played an FBS team. Once you explain that to me, I'll request the Mods close the thread.

Because they didn't play Montana in the playoffs those years.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I've never said he was wrong. I just wonder why it didn't help him the other ELEVEN times they played an FBS team. Once you explain that to me, I'll request the Mods close the thread.

Because they didn't play Montana in the playoffs those years.

It's not like we didn't give em' the opportunity my man. We were there waiting...or I mean "I got here as fast as I could."

[AZGrizFan]

I've never said he was wrong. I just wonder why it didn't help him the other ELEVEN times they played an FBS team. Once you explain that to me, I'll request the Mods close the thread.

Because they didn't play Montana in the playoffs those years.

You mean in the 3 years they actually MADE it to the playoffs?

[BlueHen86]

Because they didn't play Montana in the playoffs those years.

It's not like we didn't give em' the opportunity my man. We were there waiting...or I mean "I got here as fast as I could."

[AZGrizFan]

Food for thought:

Indianapolis Colts - 8 consecutive playoff appearances (2002-current); 1 Title
San Antonio Spurs - 12 consecutive playoff appearances (1998-present); 4 titles
Montana Grizzlies - 17 consecutive playoff appearances (1993-present); 2 Titles
Detroit Red Wings - 18 consecutive playoff appearances (1991-present); 4 Titles
**longest current MLB streak is 3 years

So, The Grizzlies are on the same pace as the Indianapolis Colts.

Conversely:

EKU - 10 consecutive playoff appearances (1986-1995); 0 titles
UNI - 7 consecutive playoff appearances (1990-1996); 0 titles
Dallas Mavericks - 9 consecutive playoff appearances (2001-2009); 0 titles
Chicago Blackhawks - 28 consecutive playoff appearances (1970-1997); 0 titles
Atlanta Braves - 14 consecutive playoff appearances (1991-2005); 1 title
Minnesota Vikings - 26 playoff appearances; 0 titles

This has no relevance to this discussion. Just thought it was interesting.

[Appaholic]

As opposed to UNI, which can't even get out of their conference.

But, expertise noted. Now shut your fucking yapper about anything military-related. Deal?

UNI Smack? You really think I give a fuck? Football aint my life.

Again, is it the only thing? NO, but it helps.

Also, Montana would be losing earlier if they had to travel. All they have to do is win that pussy conference and they're guaranteed a trip to Chatty cuz they'll be playing at home, no matter what.

Seriously...this is a thread about National Championships....your experience in this arena is very limited...

[JMU DJ]

Food for thought:

Indianapolis Colts - 8 consecutive playoff appearances (2002-current); 1 Title
San Antonio Spurs - 12 consecutive playoff appearances (1998-present); 4 titles
Montana Grizzlies - 17 consecutive playoff appearances (1993-present); 2 Titles
Detroit Red Wings - 18 consecutive playoff appearances (1991-present); 4 Titles
**longest current MLB streak is 3 years

So, The Grizzlies are on the same pace as the Indianapolis Colts.

Conversely:

EKU - 10 consecutive playoff appearances (1986-1995); 0 titles
UNI - 7 consecutive playoff appearances (1990-1996); 0 titles
Dallas Mavericks - 9 consecutive playoff appearances (2001-2009); 0 titles
Chicago Blackhawks - 28 consecutive playoff appearances (1970-1997); 0 titles
Atlanta Braves - 14 consecutive playoff appearances (1991-2005); 1 title
Minnesota Vikings - 26 playoff appearances; 0 titles

This has no relevance to this discussion. Just thought it was interesting.

The Chewbacca Defense.... well played sir!

[D1B]

That is pretty much true in every sport. I find it comical that a coach with a NC under his belt says that playing an FBS helped his team, and the coaching geniuses on this site are telling him he is wrong.

I've never said he was wrong. I just wonder why it didn't help him the other ELEVEN times they played an FBS team. Once you explain that to me, I'll request the Mods close the thread.

Team make ups aint the same. There are too many other variables. Key players get injured. Weather. Whatever. The general point is better competition is good for teams. You want to turn this into a UNI thread, go ahead, but you're still an ass for arrogantly creating this utterly stupid thread. You exposed your limited fan-only knowledge of the game.

Oh and rest assured Cactus Jack, open your shit hole again here and I will immediately be back to take you and your gimp Urinis to the fucking woodshed.

[D1B]

UNI Smack? You really think I give a fuck? Football aint my life.

Again, is it the only thing? NO, but it helps.

Also, Montana would be losing earlier if they had to travel. All they have to do is win that pussy conference and they're guaranteed a trip to Chatty cuz they'll be playing at home, no matter what.

Seriously...this is a thread about National Championships....your experience in this arena is very limited...

Appaholic, do me a favor. Take a baseball bat and hit yourself square in the nuts 3 times as hard as you can. Thanks!