Big Sky Predictions 10-10

[GRIZ MOBSTER]

I think that the stats this time of the year are not giving an accurate picture for all the teams. I would say that we are not as good against the runs as the stats indicate, but we are not as bad against the pass as the stats indicate. Our db's have been good, however are pass rush has been non existent giving opposing Qb's all day to throw the ball. Doesn't matter how well you cover you can't do it well after 5 seconds, or 10 for that matter.

[cats2506]

http://www.bigskyconf.com/sports/footba ... nfonly.htm

Nost BSC teams have had 1 or 2 FBS games, these are BSC stats

Which are slightly skewed right now based on teams played. Two or three games is not a large enough sample size to cite any teams as the best/worst defense in the conference - those claims become more clear each week.

Well obvously its pretty early to be looking at the stats but someone else was the one thumping their chest about the stats. There are still a lot of games to be played, but counting the DII games and FBS games (or lack thereof) skews the stats when looking at all games too. At the end of the year the BSC only stats are a better comparison of BSC teams, that is undeniable.


It is what it is, and we will see how it develops as the season goes on.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Looking at Montana's pass yardage defense is very misleading. The Griz have been thrown on more than any other team in FCS (47.75 attempts per game).

[Mvemjsunpx]

Weber 45-31 EWU — Weber gets revenge for last year and keeps their hopes alive for this year.

Idaho St. 14-35 Sac State — The Bengals are just terrible, plus Sac has payback motivation.

NAU 20-30 Montana St. — Out of the dome and into the cold isn't NAU's strength.

Portland St. 34-28 Northern Colorado — Bears suffer yet another close loss.

Cal Poly 7-24 Montana — The Mustang offense isn't what it was. It's also going to be below freezing at kickoff.

[AZGrizFan]

Well obvously its pretty early to be looking at the stats but someone else was the one thumping their chest about the stats. There are still a lot of games to be played, but counting the DII games and FBS games (or lack thereof) skews the stats when looking at all games too. At the end of the year the BSC only stats are a better comparison of BSC teams, that is undeniable.


It is what it is, and we will see how it develops as the season goes on.

Nobody started "thumping their chest about the stats" until you made the assinine comment that the sCat defense was "twice as good" as the Griz defense.

But you're right about one thing. We'll see how it develops as the season goes on.

[bpcats]

Griz 35- Poly 10 - If Cal can't pass this game will get ugly for the mustangs especially since the Griz had an extra week to prepare.

EWU 38-Weber 28 - The Eags and Griz are the most balanced offensively/defensively and that will prove the deciding factor as Higgins again turns the ball over.

NAU 28-MSU 20 - points will be tough to come by and the Cats always struggle on offense. Herrick and their explosive passing game will prove the difference in this tightly fought game.

PSU 28 UNC 21 - Game could go either way, but I will give edge to the Vikings.

Sac 38 ISU 10 - Another Hornet win.

[cats2506]

Well obvously its pretty early to be looking at the stats but someone else was the one thumping their chest about the stats. There are still a lot of games to be played, but counting the DII games and FBS games (or lack thereof) skews the stats when looking at all games too. At the end of the year the BSC only stats are a better comparison of BSC teams, that is undeniable.


It is what it is, and we will see how it develops as the season goes on.

Nobody started "thumping their chest about the stats" until you made the assinine comment that the sCat defense was "twice as good" as the Griz defense.

But you're right about one thing. We'll see how it develops as the season goes on.

go read the thread AZfizz, it wasnt me that said that our D was twice as good as the fizz D,

But I agree

[JALMOND]

Better late than never I guess. Currently I am sitting at 27-3 after splitting the four conference games last week. This week's slate is the toughest one yet this year and deserved a little longer to analyze. I'm sure this week will create some good discussions, especially with my picks. Remember, all are my opinions and all are open for discussions. Here they are...

ISU @ Sac State---Last week's game at Portland established some much needed confidence for the Hornets as they dominated both sides of the ball. At home last week, ISU themselves were dominated by Eastern Washington. Maybe the easiest game in the bunch...Sac State 28, ISU 10.

Cal Poly @ UM---So the Grizzlies come off of their bye week and get a taste of nonconference action by welcoming Cal Poly to Missoula. The Mustangs of the Great West are facing their second Big Sky opponent, taking care of Sacramento State in their opener. Tim Walsh takes another team in to Wash-Griz. Problem is, probably the same result...UM 35, Cal Poly 21.

NAU @ MSU---The Bobcats return to Bozeman after holding on to the win at Weber State last week. The Jacks were dealing with a pesky Northern Colorado bunch who would not go away. The Bobcats' defense seems to be able to shut anyone down, giving the team a chance to win. They will have their hands full this week as the Jacks seem to have a potent offense. The Bobcats opened some eyes last week, this week they should open some more...MSU 20, NAU 16.

PSU @ UNC---This should be interesting. The Vikings were totally outplayed by Sacramento State last week while the Bears were trying to earn the upset on the road at Northern Arizona. Yet the previous week, the Vikings were the ones who were trying to complete an upset against Weber State, while the Bears looked pathetic against Montana State. Which teams will show up...PSU 16, UNC 14.

WSU @ EWU---Some say the Eagles have taken advantage of an easy schedule and now is where the real games begin. First up on this murderous stretch are the Wildcats, coming off a disappointing loss at home to Montana State when they could not sniff the end zone at the end. The Eagles were making short work of Idaho State. A victory at home for the Eagles would do wonders this year, but this Wildcat team is mad...WSU 38, EWU 30.

Well, I could go 5-0 or I have just as much of a chance to go 0-5. Hopefully, it'll be somewhere in between.

Wow, the Griz with a big fourth quarter, my homer pick comes through and Weber was ready to play in Cheney. Only missed NAU's win. Still 4-1 pretty good. 31-4 overall really good.

[JALMOND]

ISU 17 @ Sac State 38

Cal Poly 20 @ UM 28

NAU 27 @ MSU 28

PSU 17 @ UNC 27

WSU 31 @ EWU 38

looks like Scream went 2-3. That'll hurt, but that is what happens when you try to run with the big boys.

Gotta like that Sac State prediction. Good work, Scream. Too bad the weekend didn't go as well.

[dbackjon]

A lot of you missed the NAU game

[DuckDuckGriz]

JALMOND

is the man


when we gonna hook it up for a Viks game at PGE buddy?

[JALMOND]

A lot of you missed the NAU game

A lot of us did. I was thinking that the Bobcats turned a corner after their win at Weber the week before (and NAU struggled against UNC). Also, I knew it was going to be cold with possible snow and I thought the Jacks might be hurt by that more than MSU. I thought it would be close, but I thought the Bobcats would pull it out. I was wrong.

"When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong."---Dirty Dancing

[AZGrizFan]

Nobody started "thumping their chest about the stats" until you made the assinine comment that the sCat defense was "twice as good" as the Griz defense.

But you're right about one thing. We'll see how it develops as the season goes on.

go read the thread AZfizz, it wasnt me that said that our D was twice as good as the fizz D,

But I agree

I've read the thread, scatfan. Somebody made the statement that "if you think your defense is twice as good as the Griz D" and you answered "It is".

[Screamin_Eagle174]

ISU 17 @ Sac State 38

Cal Poly 20 @ UM 28

NAU 27 @ MSU 28

PSU 17 @ UNC 27

WSU 31 @ EWU 38

looks like Scream went 2-3. That'll hurt, but that is what happens when you try to run with the big boys.

Gotta like that Sac State prediction. Good work, Scream. Too bad the weekend didn't go as well.

Yeah yeah. Jagazz.

The PSU/UNC game could've gone either way. I wasn't too far off on my score prediction, just who would eke it out. And of course I can't pick against EWU, especially when I believe they have a great shot to win. We did, and we didn't execute. I was right about how many points Weber would put up, and if we didn't turn the ball over so many times (especially TWICE inside the 5), maybe we would've put up 38. Any team that commits that many turnovers isn't giving themselves a chance to win. Although it sucks, I think it'll be a great learning experience and light a fire under their ass right before heading over to Missoula. That loss last week might have helped Weber in the same way in today's game. The season isn't lost, just as long as the players learn from today's game and progress. I'll catch up in the next couple weeks old man, you'll slip up here or there.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

By the way, how about that J.C. Sherritt kid!? TWENTY-FOUR (24) tackles, 2 for loss, pass broken up and a pick-6! Back to back Buchanan's for EWU??? Maybe...

[Screamin_Eagle174]

ISU 17 @ Sac State 38

Cal Poly 20 @ UM 28

NAU 27 @ MSU 28

PSU 17 @ UNC 27

WSU 31 @ EWU 38

Correct Pick
Incorrect Pick
Actual Score
(-123) = Difference between predicted and actual point spread
APSE = Average Point Spread Error
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ISU 17 @ Sac State 38
ISU 17 @ Sac State 38 (-0)

Cal Poly 20 @ UM 28
Cal Poly 23 @ UM 35 (-4)

NAU 27 @ MSU 28
NAU 23 @ MSU 10 (-14)

PSU 17 @ UNC 27
PSU 23 @ UNC 18 (-15)

WSU 31 @ EWU 38
WSU 31 @ EWU 13 (-25)
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This week: 2-3
Last week: 2-2
Overall: 28-7
APSE this week: 11.6 pts
APSE last week: 17.8 pts
APSE overall: 12.4 pts

Well, 2-3 this week, so not too hot, although I did nail the ISU/SAC game on the head. I was riding the fence with the PSU/UNC game, as well as the NAU/MSU game, and I guess home field advantage coupled with the prior week’s performances dissuaded me into going with the wrong pick. I knew turnovers would be the key to EWU’s game with Weber, but I didn’t think it’d be us that committed the majority of them. Oh well, there’s always next week.

[JALMOND]

By the way, how about that J.C. Sherritt kid!? TWENTY-FOUR (24) tackles, 2 for loss, pass broken up and a pick-6! Back to back Buchanan's for EWU??? Maybe...

Newest member of Scream's EWU watch list.

Peachy-keen, Jellybean!

btw: How about Taipai Jones? Watched it, didn't see anything spectacular (except for the fumble inside the five in the closing minutes). Let me guess, he's only played five games, right?

[EWURanger]

They took Jones out in the second quarter, and I didn't see him again until the 4th when he fumbles that ball away in the end zone. Not sure why.............we completely abandoned the run in that game, even when we were only down 15-7........we should have run the time out just before half time. Instead, we throw three straight incompletions with 1:30 left in the half, snap the ball over the punters head for a safety, and then give up a TD on the ensuing possession for a 9 point swing just before half-time. Great play calling!

[EWURanger]

By the way, how about that J.C. Sherritt kid!? TWENTY-FOUR (24) tackles, 2 for loss, pass broken up and a pick-6! Back to back Buchanan's for EWU??? Maybe...

Sherritt's play was just about the only positive yesterday, he is definitely a talent.

Kinda poses the question though, if he had 24 tackles, where is everyone else on our defense??? We missed quite a few tackles yesterday.

[native]

They took Jones out in the second quarter, and I didn't see him again until the 4th when he fumbles that ball away in the end zone. Not sure why.............we completely abandoned the run in that game, even when we were only down 15-7........we should have run the time out just before half time. Instead, we throw three straight incompletions with 1:30 left in the half, snap the ball over the punters head for a safety, and then give up a TD on the ensuing possession for a 9 point swing just before half-time. Great play calling!

You could say that the Eagles got out-coached, but no matter what game plan and adjustments the coaches set forth for the team, the players have to execute.

In this case the Wildcats brought a relatively conservative, ball-control game plan into Cheney, and were able keep the ball and execute against a mediocre defense. After the first quarter, the Eagles defense couldn't get the Wildcats offense off the field to give Taiwan Jones a chance.

Jones was on a pretty good clip early in the game, running 8 of his 13 rushes in the first 19 minutes. After the Weber offense scored to take the lead at the 11:03 mark and was subsequently able to establish ball control, you can't really blame the EWU coaches for trying to use all the tools at their disposal to stay in the game.

Taiwan Jones is till a top ten FCS runner and leads the Big Sky.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?y ... IAA&dest=O

http://www.bigskyconf.com/sports/footba ... nfonly.htm

[Cleets Part 2]

They took Jones out in the second quarter, and I didn't see him again until the 4th when he fumbles that ball away in the end zone. Not sure why.............we completely abandoned the run in that game, even when we were only down 15-7........we should have run the time out just before half time. Instead, we throw three straight incompletions with 1:30 left in the half, snap the ball over the punters head for a safety, and then give up a TD on the ensuing possession for a 9 point swing just before half-time. Great play calling!

You could say that the Eagles got out-coached, but no matter what game plan and adjustments the coaches set forth for the team, the players have to execute.

In this case the Wildcats brought a relatively conservative, ball-control game plan into Cheney, and were able keep the ball and execute against a mediocre defense. After the first quater, the Eagles defense couldn't get the Wildcats offense off the field to give Taiwan Jones a chance.

Jones was on a pretty good clip early in the game, running 8 of his 13 rushes in the first 19 minutes. After the Weber offense scored to take the lead at the 11:03 mark and was subsequently able to establish ball control, you can't really blame the EWU coaches for trying to use all the tools at their disposal to stay in the game.

Taiwan Jones is till a top ten FCS runner and leads the Big Sky.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?y ... IAA&dest=O

http://www.bigskyconf.com/sports/footba ... nfonly.htm

If Eastern falls behind next week they're in trouble

[Screamin_Eagle174]

btw: How about Taipai Jones? Watched it, didn't see anything spectacular (except for the fumble inside the five in the closing minutes). Let me guess, he's only played five games, right?

What, great backs don't have subpar performances every now and then? Obviously you didn't look at or give any credence to Trevyn Smith's first year at Weber. His numbers were pretty schizo.... having an average or subpar game, then busting 150+ the next.

[JALMOND]

btw: How about Taipai Jones? Watched it, didn't see anything spectacular (except for the fumble inside the five in the closing minutes). Let me guess, he's only played five games, right?

What, great backs don't have subpar performances every now and then? Obviously you didn't look at or give any credence to Trevyn Smith's first year at Weber. His numbers were pretty schizo.... having an average or subpar game, then busting 150+ the next.

That surely would be an eyeopener, rushing for 150+ against Montana. Or Montana State. Or Portland State. Face it, his first game against real competition and nothing to get all jacked up about.

I thought your buddy, Ranger, hit the nail on the head. Weber jumped on EWU and made you one dimensional, forcing you to pass. That in itself nullified any chance for Jones to have a "breakout" game against a credible opponent.

[native]

btw: How about Taipai Jones? Watched it, didn't see anything spectacular (except for the fumble inside the five in the closing minutes). Let me guess, he's only played five games, right?

What, great backs don't have subpar performances every now and then? Obviously you didn't look at or give any credence to Trevyn Smith's first year at Weber. His numbers were pretty schizo.... having an average or subpar game, then busting 150+ the next.

Trevyn still has an off game now and then. For example, he netted only 30 yards on the ground at Portland State, then broke 140 against both Montana State and Eastern Washington.

But no one can rush well consistently without some great blocking, and defenses make a difference, too. I do think Jones will struggle against some of the upcoming defenses.

[EWURanger]

What, great backs don't have subpar performances every now and then? Obviously you didn't look at or give any credence to Trevyn Smith's first year at Weber. His numbers were pretty schizo.... having an average or subpar game, then busting 150+ the next.

That surely would be an eyeopener, rushing for 150+ against Montana. Or Montana State. Or Portland State. Face it, his first game against real competition and nothing to get all jacked up about.

I thought your buddy, Ranger, hit the nail on the head. Weber jumped on EWU and made you one dimensional, forcing you to pass. That in itself nullified any chance for Jones to have a "breakout" game against a credible opponent.

We were extremely one-dimensional in that game. Once we got behind, we just didn't try to run the ball. Weber sat back in zone, and defended very well. We did get out-coached yesterday, plain and simple.

But in all fairness to Jones, he really didn't have any opportunities past the 2nd quarter. I mean, if you don't get the ball at all you can't make plays, plain and simple. Completely abandoning the run when you are only down by 8 points is just ridiculous when you have the league's top rusher on your team. I just don't get it. I don't blame Jones at all........

Really, I don't even blame Nichols. As bad as he was yesterday, he still managed to pass for 354 yards. I blame the coaches and the bad play-calling. It was the first league game where we were behind and we completely panicked and all we did was pass, pass, pass. How hard is that for a defense to figure out. Subsequently, he was picked off 3 times. What happened to the balance?

Not taking anything away from Weber, they are certainly a great team and had a great game-plan, but Eastern was capable of winning that game. We got out-coached.