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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:51 am
Yay authoritarianism!

I’m not sure why you guys don’t just admit you love it now.
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:49 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:51 am
Yay authoritarianism!

I’m not sure why you guys don’t just admit you love it now.
And just admit it. You love:
-Race based discrimination against Asians and whites in admissions and hiring..
-Disruptive and illegal antisemitic "protests" allowed to run rampant on campus.
-40% foreign students, taking away opportunities from American students.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:45 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:49 am

Yay authoritarianism!

I’m not sure why you guys don’t just admit you love it now.
And just admit it. You love:
-Race based discrimination against Asians and whites in admissions and hiring..
-Disruptive and illegal antisemitic "protests" allowed to run rampant on campus.
-40% foreign students, taking away opportunities from American students.
:lol:

I’m for hiring qualified candidates. Regardless of race.

Protesting a genocide is not anti-Semitic.

We’ve benefitted all along from foreign students and expertise. Maybe American students should up their game.

Still better than the authoritarianism you proudly cheer on a daily basis.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:49 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:51 am
Yay authoritarianism!

I’m not sure why you guys don’t just admit you love it now.
Why don’t you just admit you hate Jews
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:36 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:49 am

Yay authoritarianism!

I’m not sure why you guys don’t just admit you love it now.
Why don’t you just admit you hate Jews
Why would you say that? Because I’m criticizing Israel’s war crimes and genocide? Like many Jews are also doing? Or your just lazily following the propaganda?

Show me the receipts of where I’ve displayed anti-semitism.

Your receipts all over the place.
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:53 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:36 am

Why don’t you just admit you hate Jews
Why would you say that? Because I’m criticizing Israel’s war crimes and genocide? Like many Jews are also doing? Or your just lazily following the propaganda?

Show me the receipts of where I’ve displayed anti-semitism.

Your receipts all over the place.
Because it’s true
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:37 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:53 am

Why would you say that? Because I’m criticizing Israel’s war crimes and genocide? Like many Jews are also doing? Or your just lazily following the propaganda?

Show me the receipts of where I’ve displayed anti-semitism.

Your receipts all over the place.
Because it’s true
What’s true? That you have nothing (no examples, no receipts) other than name calling and following MAGA’s cues rather than thinking on your own?

I agree. :coffee:
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CH, do you MAGA guys support this? If so, justify your reasoning.



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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:49 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:51 am
Yay authoritarianism!

I’m not sure why you guys don’t just admit you love it now.
When Bank of America had to pay $30+ billion in fines, penalties, and settlements for breaking federal law due to the subprime mortgage crisis, that wasn't authoritarianism.
When BP hat to pay $20+ billion to settle environmental claims, including the largest fine ever for violating the Clean Water Act for its role in the Deepwater Horizon disaster, that wasn't authoritarianism, either.

Yet, authoritarianism is on full display when the feds fine Columbia University when it breaks federal anti-discrimination laws. :suspicious:

Please explain this awkward line of reasoning.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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Baldy wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:11 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:49 am
Yay authoritarianism!

I’m not sure why you guys don’t just admit you love it now.
When Bank of America had to pay $30+ billion in fines, penalties, and settlements for breaking federal law due to the subprime mortgage crisis, that wasn't authoritarianism.
When BP hat to pay $20+ billion to settle environmental claims, including the largest fine ever for violating the Clean Water Act for its role in the Deepwater Horizon disaster, that wasn't authoritarianism, either.

Yet, authoritarianism is on full display when the feds fine Columbia University when it breaks federal anti-discrimination laws. :suspicious:

Please explain this awkward line of reasoning.
Baldy, you're not this stupid or obtuse. You know it isn't that simple.

First, the trump regime used withholding federal funding as leverage to force Columbia University to settle. Did Columbia settle because of the merits of the case or because the school year is about to start and they need the funding? This could be called extortion and also a step toward authoritarianism.

Second, the fact that this country has shit on black people for hundreds of years can't be disputed. They were enslaved for hundreds of years (since before the founding of the nation) and then severely oppressed after they were freed (Jim Crow laws, voting suppression, redlining, etc.). This oppression has put them behind the 8-ball when it comes to wealth creation, making higher education (and home ownership) harder to obtain. You can argue that we've done enough and it was time to stop but I don't think you can argue that it was it wrong to attempt to help them catch up (education).

FTR I'm for equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. Education is a key part of America being the Land of Opportunity.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:12 pm
Baldy wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:11 am
When Bank of America had to pay $30+ billion in fines, penalties, and settlements for breaking federal law due to the subprime mortgage crisis, that wasn't authoritarianism.
When BP hat to pay $20+ billion to settle environmental claims, including the largest fine ever for violating the Clean Water Act for its role in the Deepwater Horizon disaster, that wasn't authoritarianism, either.

Yet, authoritarianism is on full display when the feds fine Columbia University when it breaks federal anti-discrimination laws. :suspicious:

Please explain this awkward line of reasoning.
Baldy, you're not this stupid or obtuse. You know it isn't that simple.

First, the trump regime used withholding federal funding as leverage to force Columbia University to settle. Did Columbia settle because of the merits of the case or because the school year is about to start and they need the funding? This could be called extortion and also a step toward authoritarianism.

Second, the fact that this country has shit on black people for hundreds of years can't be disputed. They were enslaved for hundreds of years (since before the founding of the nation) and then severely oppressed after they were freed (Jim Crow laws, voting suppression, redlining, etc.). This oppression has put them behind the 8-ball when it comes to wealth creation, making higher education (and home ownership) harder to obtain. You can argue that we've done enough and it was time to stop but I don't think you can argue that it was it wrong to attempt to help them catch up (education).

FTR I'm for equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. Education is a key part of America being the Land of Opportunity.
Doesn‘t change the fact that discrimination against whites and Asians that Columbia has been doing (and they aren‘t the only ones) is wrong. You don‘t make up for past discrimination with more discrimination.

And Asians have historically faced discrimination, were never part of some privileged class, and yet they’ve managed to out perform everyone academically, including whites.

Yeah, about 40 years ago.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 4:02 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:12 pm
Baldy, you're not this stupid or obtuse. You know it isn't that simple.

First, the trump regime used withholding federal funding as leverage to force Columbia University to settle. Did Columbia settle because of the merits of the case or because the school year is about to start and they need the funding? This could be called extortion and also a step toward authoritarianism.

Second, the fact that this country has shit on black people for hundreds of years can't be disputed. They were enslaved for hundreds of years (since before the founding of the nation) and then severely oppressed after they were freed (Jim Crow laws, voting suppression, redlining, etc.). This oppression has put them behind the 8-ball when it comes to wealth creation, making higher education (and home ownership) harder to obtain. You can argue that we've done enough and it was time to stop but I don't think you can argue that it was it wrong to attempt to help them catch up (education).

FTR I'm for equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. Education is a key part of America being the Land of Opportunity.
Doesn‘t change the fact that discrimination against whites and Asians that Columbia has been doing (and they aren‘t the only ones) is wrong. You don‘t make up for past discrimination with more discrimination.

And Asians have historically faced discrimination, were never part of some privileged class, and yet they’ve managed to out perform everyone academically, including whites.

Yeah, about 40 years ago.
40 years ago was 1985. Anti-discrimination laws weren't enacted until the mid 1960's. Do you really think that impacts of hundreds of years of slavery and discrimination (Jim Crow laws, voting suppression, redlining, etc.) were overcome in only 20 years and blacks were on equal footing with whites? Blacks were living in ghettos without access to a quality education because of that oppression and discrimination. Ignoring that and pretending that Blacks were suddenly equal in 1865, 1964 (Civil Rights Act), 1968 (Fair Housing Act), etc. is ludicrous.

I would prefer that they take race out of the equation and give credit for overcoming poverty and adversity. Merit based admission should take into consideration where you started your academic journey and where you ended up. Someone (Black or White) who starts at a poorly rated inner-city or rural elementary school but does well should get credit for that when compared to someone who attended the best schools their entire life.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:51 pm
Cracks widen in Japan and US’s interpretation of tariff trade deal
Japanese officials said there was no written agreement with Washington — and no legally binding one would be drawn up — after Trump administration officials claimed Tokyo would back investments in the US from which American taxpayers would reap nine-tenths of the profits.

Japan secured a reduction in reciprocal and automotive tariffs from US President Donald Trump’s threatened level of 25 per cent to 15 per cent in the deal announced this week, but sharply different perceptions of what was agreed have since become apparent.

US commerce secretary Howard Lutnick boasted on Wednesday that Japan would be “the banker” for $550bn worth of investments in US strategic sectors such as semiconductors, shipbuilding and critical minerals, in return for the reduction in tariffs.

“The Japanese will finance the project. We will give it to an operator and the profits will be split 90 per cent to the taxpayers and 10 per cent to the Japanese. They basically bought down their tariff rate by this commitment,” said Lutnick.

On Thursday, Trump said the $550bn was a “signing bonus” to the US.

“What Japan did is they brought down their tariffs,” Trump told reporters. “They gave us $550bn upfront, 100 per cent. We get 90 per cent, they get 10 per cent.”

But a slideshow issued by Japan’s Cabinet Office on Friday appeared to contradict Lutnick by saying the ratio of profit distribution would be “based on the degree of contribution and risk taken by each party”.

Officials familiar with the US-Japan talks said the deal was pulled together in a slapdash manner during a 70-minute meeting between Japan’s chief negotiator Ryosei Akazawa and Trump on Tuesday.
We have the framework of a deal, all we need is a closer ...
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:35 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:51 pm
Cracks widen in Japan and US’s interpretation of tariff trade deal
Japanese officials said there was no written agreement with Washington — and no legally binding one would be drawn up — after Trump administration officials claimed Tokyo would back investments in the US from which American taxpayers would reap nine-tenths of the profits.

Japan secured a reduction in reciprocal and automotive tariffs from US President Donald Trump’s threatened level of 25 per cent to 15 per cent in the deal announced this week, but sharply different perceptions of what was agreed have since become apparent.

US commerce secretary Howard Lutnick boasted on Wednesday that Japan would be “the banker” for $550bn worth of investments in US strategic sectors such as semiconductors, shipbuilding and critical minerals, in return for the reduction in tariffs.

“The Japanese will finance the project. We will give it to an operator and the profits will be split 90 per cent to the taxpayers and 10 per cent to the Japanese. They basically bought down their tariff rate by this commitment,” said Lutnick.

On Thursday, Trump said the $550bn was a “signing bonus” to the US.

“What Japan did is they brought down their tariffs,” Trump told reporters. “They gave us $550bn upfront, 100 per cent. We get 90 per cent, they get 10 per cent.”

But a slideshow issued by Japan’s Cabinet Office on Friday appeared to contradict Lutnick by saying the ratio of profit distribution would be “based on the degree of contribution and risk taken by each party”.

Officials familiar with the US-Japan talks said the deal was pulled together in a slapdash manner during a 70-minute meeting between Japan’s chief negotiator Ryosei Akazawa and Trump on Tuesday.
We have the framework of a deal, all we need is a closer ...
Here’s another.

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:31 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 4:02 pm
Doesn‘t change the fact that discrimination against whites and Asians that Columbia has been doing (and they aren‘t the only ones) is wrong. You don‘t make up for past discrimination with more discrimination.

And Asians have historically faced discrimination, were never part of some privileged class, and yet they’ve managed to out perform everyone academically, including whites.

Yeah, about 40 years ago.
40 years ago was 1985. Anti-discrimination laws weren't enacted until the mid 1960's. Do you really think that impacts of hundreds of years of slavery and discrimination (Jim Crow laws, voting suppression, redlining, etc.) were overcome in only 20 years and blacks were on equal footing with whites? Blacks were living in ghettos without access to a quality education because of that oppression and discrimination. Ignoring that and pretending that Blacks were suddenly equal in 1865, 1964 (Civil Rights Act), 1968 (Fair Housing Act), etc. is ludicrous.

I would prefer that they take race out of the equation and give credit for overcoming poverty and adversity. Merit based admission should take into consideration where you started your academic journey and where you ended up. Someone (Black or White) who starts at a poorly rated inner-city or rural elementary school but does well should get credit for that when compared to someone who attended the best schools their entire life.
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To MAGA, this is winning I suppose. But for those who think on their own, going after Obama, Hunter, Hillary, etc. right now is nothing but a tell.

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Eco-friendly Trump to the rescue. Makes you wonder why Biden and Obama both ignored this obviously easy fix.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/25/clim ... ement.html
The United States and Mexico signed an agreement on Thursday to end the flow of raw sewage into the Tijuana River, which crosses the border into California and for years has contaminated and closed beaches and caused illnesses in both countries.

The environmental cooperation comes at a time when the two countries have been otherwise sparring on issues like tariffs, immigration and drug trafficking.

Every day, millions of gallons of sewage flow into the Tijuana River starting in Mexico and ending in California, where the polluted water is dumped in the ocean. The sewage frequently overwhelms wastewater treatment plants in both countries. The problem has worsened in recent years as Tijuana’s population has grown, treatment plants in both countries have fallen into disrepair, and climate change has fueled increasingly strong storms.
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kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:11 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:35 pm
Cracks widen in Japan and US’s interpretation of tariff trade deal

We have the framework of a deal, all we need is a closer ...
Here’s another.

That's the thing about levying tariffs on almost the entire world. You can be the biggest, baddest bully on the playground but you can't beat up everybody at the same time so picking a fight with everyone else on the playground is stupid. Same thing with tariffs. All it takes is enough countries/unions to realize that they have more leverage if they work together and the US comes out on the short end.
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Independents are increasingly souring on Trump, new poll finds
A July poll from Gallup found that Trump’s job approval rating has dipped to just 37 percent among all American adults, the lowest of his second term. Self-identified independents gave the president a 29 percent job approval rating. The 17-point decline since January matches his lowest rating with independents in either of his terms.

Sixty-four percent of independents said they have an unfavorable opinion of the job Trump is doing. Just 7 percent of Republicans said the same, while 97 percent of Democrats said they had an unfavorable view.

The poll, which was conducted just days after Congress passed Trump’s megabill, showed that 73 percent of independents disapprove of the president’s handling of the federal budget. Sixty-five percent of all adults surveyed said they disapprove of how Trump is handling the budget, an increase from 52 percent who said the same in March of this year.

The decline in support could be a warning sign for Republican leaders as they look to maintain their slim control of the House and Senate ahead of the 2026 midterms.

Trump struggled to garner more than 40 percent approval from independent voters on several issues central to his 2024 campaign.

Though Trump made fortifying the economy a central pillar of his campaign, 68 percent of independents said they disapprove of how he is handling the issue. Overall, 61 percent of adults said they disapprove of how the president is handling the economy — a steady increase from the 54 percent who said the same in February, and roughly even with the 59 percent who said so in March.

Independent voters also remain largely displeased with his handling of immigration, even as it remains a cornerstone of Trump’s agenda — framed as essential to national security and economic stability.

Only 30 percent of independents approve of Trump’s handling of immigration in the Gallup poll. Sixty percent of all adults said they disapprove of his handling of the issue, also an increase from February when 51 percent said the same.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:59 am Independents are increasingly souring on Trump, new poll finds
A July poll from Gallup found that Trump’s job approval rating has dipped to just 37 percent among all American adults, the lowest of his second term. Self-identified independents gave the president a 29 percent job approval rating. The 17-point decline since January matches his lowest rating with independents in either of his terms.

Sixty-four percent of independents said they have an unfavorable opinion of the job Trump is doing. Just 7 percent of Republicans said the same, while 97 percent of Democrats said they had an unfavorable view.

The poll, which was conducted just days after Congress passed Trump’s megabill, showed that 73 percent of independents disapprove of the president’s handling of the federal budget. Sixty-five percent of all adults surveyed said they disapprove of how Trump is handling the budget, an increase from 52 percent who said the same in March of this year.

The decline in support could be a warning sign for Republican leaders as they look to maintain their slim control of the House and Senate ahead of the 2026 midterms.

Trump struggled to garner more than 40 percent approval from independent voters on several issues central to his 2024 campaign.

Though Trump made fortifying the economy a central pillar of his campaign, 68 percent of independents said they disapprove of how he is handling the issue. Overall, 61 percent of adults said they disapprove of how the president is handling the economy — a steady increase from the 54 percent who said the same in February, and roughly even with the 59 percent who said so in March.

Independent voters also remain largely displeased with his handling of immigration, even as it remains a cornerstone of Trump’s agenda — framed as essential to national security and economic stability.

Only 30 percent of independents approve of Trump’s handling of immigration in the Gallup poll. Sixty percent of all adults said they disapprove of his handling of the issue, also an increase from February when 51 percent said the same.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:56 am
kalm wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:11 pm

Here’s another.

That's the thing about levying tariffs on almost the entire world. You can be the biggest, baddest bully on the playground but you can't beat up everybody at the same time so picking a fight with everyone else on the playground is stupid. Same thing with tariffs. All it takes is enough countries/unions to realize that they have more leverage if they work together and the US comes out on the short end.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:57 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:56 am

That's the thing about levying tariffs on almost the entire world. You can be the biggest, baddest bully on the playground but you can't beat up everybody at the same time so picking a fight with everyone else on the playground is stupid. Same thing with tariffs. All it takes is enough countries/unions to realize that they have more leverage if they work together and the US comes out on the short end.
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No, I'm rooting against the POTUS being a moron and putting the US in a compromised position.

A smart POTUS would have worked with our allies like Canada and the EU to use tariffs against china, russia, etc. rather than picking fights with almost everyone on the planet.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:57 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:56 am

That's the thing about levying tariffs on almost the entire world. You can be the biggest, baddest bully on the playground but you can't beat up everybody at the same time so picking a fight with everyone else on the playground is stupid. Same thing with tariffs. All it takes is enough countries/unions to realize that they have more leverage if they work together and the US comes out on the short end.
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kalm wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:03 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:57 am

Rooting against the USA again are you

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The Democrats only chance of regaining any type of credibility is to start working with Trump. There’s no other way out of the hole they’ve dug themselves into.

Fighting Trump at every turn is not working well for them.
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