Yeah. Nothing standing between the world and depravity but some mealy-mouth preachers riding their tax-free gravy trainSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:52 pmYes, I've seen what that means. It's code to mean Christians should discard their values and allow depravity to run unchecked.
This is a two-way street. Go over to the AGS Political Forum and see the same sort of hate and intolerance from conservatives toward liberals. The ironic (i.e. hypocritical) part is that they spew it all while complaining about liberal hate and intolerance.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:07 pm Bwahaha.
Posted this back in July of last year. Guy got the cause for the indictment, but he got it right as plan B
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/the ... t-him-back
Complaints about the nature of Trump are just proxies for objections to the nature of his base. It doesn’t help stabilize our already twitchy situation that those who bleat the loudest about democracy are also audibly and visibly determined to deny a real choice to half the country. “No matter how you vote, you will not get X”—whether X is a candidate or a policy—is guaranteed to increase discontent with the present regime.
People I have known for 30 years, many of whom still claim the label “conservative,” will no longer speak to me—because I supported Trump, yes, but also because I disagree on trade, war, and the border. They call not just my positions, but me personally, unadulterated evil. I am not an isolated case. There are, as they say, “many such cases.” How are we supposed to have “democracy” when the policies and candidates my side wants and votes for are anathema and can’t be allowed? How are we supposed to live together with the constant demonization from one side against the other blaring 24/7 from the ruling class’s every propaganda organ? Why would we want to?
First off, AGS is for pussies. The real deep thinkers are over here. Secondly, regardless of whether it is happening on both sides, the "establishment" does NOT want their representatives actually representing the people.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:58 pmThis is a two-way street. Go over to the AGS Political Forum and see the same sort of hate and intolerance from conservatives toward liberals. The ironic (i.e. hypocritical) part is that they spew it all while complaining about liberal hate and intolerance.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:07 pm Bwahaha.
Posted this back in July of last year. Guy got the cause for the indictment, but he got it right as plan B
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/the ... t-him-back
I don't see you going out and advocating for family values. You donate time to the less fortunate? Got a hospital named St Houndie?houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:32 pmYeah. Nothing standing between the world and depravity but some mealy-mouth preachers riding their tax-free gravy trainSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:52 pm
Yes, I've seen what that means. It's code to mean Christians should discard their values and allow depravity to run unchecked.
I don't disagree with any of that. I would add that trump doesn't represent the people either. He only cares about and represents trump. Stay on the trail of skepticism and eventually, you might enlightenment and realize that as well.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:50 pmFirst off, AGS is for pussies. The real deep thinkers are over here. Secondly, regardless of whether it is happening on both sides, the "establishment" does NOT want their representatives actually representing the people.
This is not a big conspiracy. Our elected officials represent their donors and that rarely represents the people. It's usually very incremental, but never for the people.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump may not give two shits about the people as you say, but his goals were aligned with the people. That is frightening to the establishment.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:58 pmI don't disagree with any of that. I would add that trump doesn't represent the people either. He only cares about and represents trump. Stay on the trail of skepticism and eventually, you might enlightenment and realize that as well.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:50 pm
First off, AGS is for pussies. The real deep thinkers are over here. Secondly, regardless of whether it is happening on both sides, the "establishment" does NOT want their representatives actually representing the people.
This is not a big conspiracy. Our elected officials represent their donors and that rarely represents the people. It's usually very incremental, but never for the people.
...preacher needs a new airplane?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:55 pmI don't see you going out and advocating for family values. You donate time to the less fortunate? Got a hospital named St Houndie?
Talk is cheap. Maybe you can get your Sun god to cough up some dime.
Which people?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:59 pmThe enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump may not give two shits about the people as you say, but his goals were aligned with the people. That is frightening to the establishment.
trump's goal is more money and power for trump. I don't see how that aligns with the people. He frightens the establishment because he wants to take what they have for himself not the people.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:59 pmThe enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump may not give two shits about the people as you say, but his goals were aligned with the people. That is frightening to the establishment.
You keep saying this, but NEVER give a means to how he will accomplish this. If you think charging standard rate for rooms is how he'll do it, you are wrong. StOnge level wrong.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:22 pmtrump's goal is more money and power for trump. I don't see how that aligns with the people. He frightens the establishment because he wants to take what they have for himself not the people.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:59 pm
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump may not give two shits about the people as you say, but his goals were aligned with the people. That is frightening to the establishment.
How about the lowest wage earners pay growing faster than in many years? They sure liked Trump. Your tribalism is hilarious.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:02 pmWhich people?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:59 pm
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump may not give two shits about the people as you say, but his goals were aligned with the people. That is frightening to the establishment.
When it comes to trump, Ukraine, etc. maybe your name should be a derivative of Reek.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:37 pmYou keep saying this, but NEVER give a means to how he will accomplish this. If you think charging standard rate for rooms is how he'll do it, you are wrong. StOnge level wrong.
He's a one-man communism!UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:22 pmtrump's goal is more money and power for trump. I don't see how that aligns with the people. He frightens the establishment because he wants to take what they have for himself not the people.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:59 pm
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump may not give two shits about the people as you say, but his goals were aligned with the people. That is frightening to the establishment.
They liked him so much that he lost by 7,000,000 votes.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:40 pmHow about the lowest wage earners pay growing faster than in many years? They sure liked Trump. Your tribalism is hilarious.
Which Trump policies increased pay for low end wage earners? Were there any other factors?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:40 pmHow about the lowest wage earners pay growing faster than in many years? They sure liked Trump. Your tribalism is hilarious.
Good grief, you can't be serious.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:37 pmYou keep saying this, but NEVER give a means to how he will accomplish this. If you think charging standard rate for rooms is how he'll do it, you are wrong. StOnge level wrong.
There, was that so hard. Those are at least some examples, although no different than any other well known politician. Don't see you droning on about Biden, Kerry, Clintons or Pelosi "setting up grift".houndawg wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:19 amGood grief, you can't be serious.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:37 pm
You keep saying this, but NEVER give a means to how he will accomplish this. If you think charging standard rate for rooms is how he'll do it, you are wrong. StOnge level wrong.
We need to have a relegation policy similar to Premir League soccer where when you come up with stupid shit like you keep doing you get relegated to AGS for a season to work on your 'tard.
He does it by pay-to-play, Reek. The Saudis gave his son-in-law 2.5billion just because... China gave his daughter all kinds of most-favored status trading privileges....you can listen to the phone call of him shaking down Zelensky....wtf....?
You didn't ask about Biden, Kerry, Clintons, or Pelosi.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:22 amThere, was that so hard. Those are at least some examples, although no different than any other well known politician. Don't see you droning on about Biden, Kerry, Clintons or Pelosi "setting up grift".houndawg wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:19 am
Good grief, you can't be serious.
We need to have a relegation policy similar to Premier League soccer where when you come up with stupid shit like you keep doing you get relegated to AGS for a season to work on your 'tard.
He does it by pay-to-play, Reek. The Saudis gave his son-in-law 2.5billion just because... China gave his daughter all kinds of most-favored status trading privileges....you can listen to the phone call of him shaking down Zelensky....wtf....?
SG should read my posts on Hunter & Joe's ties to Ukraine and China and the Clinton Foundation. So yes, I've droned on about Biden and the Clintons just like I have for trump. I'm not carrying their water like he does for trump.houndawg wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:27 amYou didn't ask about Biden, Kerry, Clintons, or Pelosi.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:22 am
There, was that so hard. Those are at least some examples, although no different than any other well known politician. Don't see you droning on about Biden, Kerry, Clintons or Pelosi "setting up grift".
If you decide to do so, refer back to this post.
The Clintons and trump are peas in a pod when it comes to corruption.
I'll be honest, when you had said "setting up grift" for Trump, I had taken that to mean he was setting up a system that would continually bring in cash, like the Clinton Foundation. That's why I kept asking.
I find it interesting that both have children married to men that have fathers sent to jail over fraud.
Welcome to America!SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:57 amI find it interesting that both have children married to men that have fathers sent to jail over fraud.
Seems the wealthy don't care about crime as long as it keeps the money in the family.