Culture Wars
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
So the right is focused on pronouns kind of like how the left is focused on fascism and the end of democracy?
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
- GannonFan
- Level5
- Posts: 18127
- Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
- I am a fan of: Delaware
- A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack
Re: Culture Wars
And of course, codifying something doesn't exempt it from being declared unconstitutional. It's a nice thing to do and it's good that Congress has found something productive they can spend their time on, but even codified laws can be declared unconstitutional. Only amendments are exempt from that.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:36 amWell, if the only thing making baking puppies in an oven illegal was a Supreme Court precedent - they should probably get on it.
Hopefully, they have learned their lesson with Roe and start codifying everything that rests on a Supreme Court precedent.
And, to answer your question - they made animal cruelty a federal offense in 2019.
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/25/78284265 ... eral-crime
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
.
Sure! They are clearly equal threats.
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
They're pretty close. Pronouns don't really hurt anyone so only snowflakes get worked up over them. Saying the opposing party is fascist and if they win the end of democracy is nigh is hyperbolic manipulation, meant to inflame the gullible. What kind of idiot would fall for that crap?
So the people getting worked up over pronouns are snowflakes and the people getting worked up over fascism and the impending end of democracy are suckers.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
It’s like today’s release of Meadow’s communications or the mounting evidence of conspiracy based on their own words never happened.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:53 amThey're pretty close. Pronouns don't really hurt anyone so only snowflakes get worked up over them. Saying the opposing party is fascist and if they win the end of democracy is nigh is hyperbolic manipulation, meant to inflame the gullible. What kind of idiot would fall for that crap?
So the people getting worked up over pronouns are snowflakes and the people getting worked up over fascism and the impending end of democracy are suckers.
But yeah….pronouns are so the same.
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
Conspiracy ≠ fascism or mean that the end of democracy was imminent. Just like you talk about with Hunter and his laptop, I fully support the prosecution of January 6 wrongdoers. trump is a tinpot dictator wannabe, not a fascist. Democracy was not on the precipice on January 6 (or on November 8, 2022 for that matter). That is just pearl-clutching hyperbole meant to rile up the base and scare the gullible.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:00 amIt’s like today’s release of Meadow’s communications or the mounting evidence of conspiracy based on their own words never happened.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:53 am
They're pretty close. Pronouns don't really hurt anyone so only snowflakes get worked up over them. Saying the opposing party is fascist and if they win the end of democracy is nigh is hyperbolic manipulation, meant to inflame the gullible. What kind of idiot would fall for that crap?
So the people getting worked up over pronouns are snowflakes and the people getting worked up over fascism and the impending end of democracy are suckers.
But yeah….pronouns are so the same.
If you believe all of that fascism/end of democracy crap then I have shares in the Space Needle to sell. Send me money and I'll send you ownership certificates.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
So it’s only fascism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:21 amConspiracy ≠ fascism or mean that the end of democracy was imminent. Just like you talk about with Hunter and his laptop, I fully support the prosecution of January 6 wrongdoers. trump is a tinpot dictator wannabe, not a fascist. Democracy was not on the precipice on January 6 (or on November 8, 2022 for that matter). That is just pearl-clutching hyperbole meant to rile up the base and scare the gullible.
If you believe all of that fascism/end of democracy crap then I have shares in the Space Needle to sell. Send me money and I'll send you ownership certificates.
Go on…
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
Do you lose circulation to your fingertips when you clutch your pearls that tightly?kalm wrote:So it’s only fascism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:21 am
Conspiracy ≠ fascism or mean that the end of democracy was imminent. Just like you talk about with Hunter and his laptop, I fully support the prosecution of January 6 wrongdoers. trump is a tinpot dictator wannabe, not a fascist. Democracy was not on the precipice on January 6 (or on November 8, 2022 for that matter). That is just pearl-clutching hyperbole meant to rile up the base and scare the gullible.
If you believe all of that fascism/end of democracy crap then I have shares in the Space Needle to sell. Send me money and I'll send you ownership certificates.
Go on…
And is that a double standard from the poster who wanted proof that Bernie and AOChe were socialists? Because they're way more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
Yes…I would turn to whataboutism too rather than try and back out of that corner.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:49 pmDo you lose circulation to your fingertips when you clutch your pearls that tightly?kalm wrote:
So it’s only fascism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?
Go on…
And is that a double standard from the poster who wanted proof that Bernie and AOChe were socialists? Because they're way more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
That's like BDK claiming tDS when trump is criticized. You've got nothing.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:49 amYes…I would turn to whataboutism too rather than try and back out of that corner.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:49 pm
Do you lose circulation to your fingertips when you clutch your pearls that tightly?
And is that a double standard from the poster who wanted proof that Bernie and AOChe were socialists? Because they're way more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
Could someone clean up this blubbering puddle of irrational and highly-partisan arguments that used to be kalm?
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
So it’s only fascism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?
Division 1 Boy would be proud of your victory declaration.
- Skjellyfetti
- Anal
- Posts: 14424
- Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
- I am a fan of: Appalachian
Re: Culture Wars
I see your back to your less extreme definition of socialism to include Bernie and AOC (the definition I agree with).
And, the next thread you'll be back to socialism being its most extreme form: a planned economy with government controlling the means of production and distribution (Bernie and AOC aren't socialists here).
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
So it’s only the socialism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:27 amI see your back to your less extreme definition of socialism to include Bernie and AOC (the definition I agree with).
And, the next thread you'll be back to socialism being its most extreme form: a planned economy with government controlling the means of production and distribution (Bernie and AOC aren't socialists here).
My definition hasn't changed. Bernie is literally a democratic socialist, they believe in a democratic government with a socialist economy. AOChe is/was a member of the National Socialists of America and they openly advocated for "public" control of the means of production and distribution. They are more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
The heart of this isn't trump's unproven fascism. It's the liberal need to keep trump in the news and the disingenuous "he's a fascist" propaganda helps accomplish that.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
I would’ve thought it was Trump himself along with his crimes that keep Trump in the news.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:31 pmSo it’s only the socialism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:27 am
I see your back to your less extreme definition of socialism to include Bernie and AOC (the definition I agree with).
And, the next thread you'll be back to socialism being its most extreme form: a planned economy with government controlling the means of production and distribution (Bernie and AOC aren't socialists here).
My definition hasn't changed. Bernie is literally a democratic socialist, they believe in a democratic government with a socialist economy. AOChe is/was a member of the National Socialists of America and they openly advocated for "public" control of the means of production and distribution. They are more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
The heart of this isn't trump's unproven fascism. It's the liberal need to keep trump in the news and the disingenuous "he's a fascist" propaganda helps accomplish that.
BTW, is there a Democratic Fascist movement one can join? That would be cool!
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
trump does his part but the Democratic Party is happy to help.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:36 pmI would’ve thought it was Trump himself along with his crimes that keep Trump in the news.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:31 pm
So it’s only the socialism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?
My definition hasn't changed. Bernie is literally a democratic socialist, they believe in a democratic government with a socialist economy. AOChe is/was a member of the National Socialists of America and they openly advocated for "public" control of the means of production and distribution. They are more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
The heart of this isn't trump's unproven fascism. It's the liberal need to keep trump in the news and the disingenuous "he's a fascist" propaganda helps accomplish that.
BTW, is there a Democratic Fascist movement one can join? That would be cool!
Yes, there is. It's called AnTiFa. They're an interesting blend of anarchist ideas with fascist tactics.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
Whoa! So they’re really not anti-fascism after all! Didn’t see that coming!
Kind of like how libertarians aren’t really for liberty? (Other than their own)
Deceptive bastards…the lot of them!
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
FYP
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
Dystopian socialist hell hole for sure.
FTR - Nordic countries have capitalist economies.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
- Skjellyfetti
- Anal
- Posts: 14424
- Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:56 pm
- I am a fan of: Appalachian
Re: Culture Wars
Yes and there are European countries that are also democratic socialist. When they are brought up, you argue they aren't really socialist because they still have market economies (and ignore all of their socialist policies). That would be your other definition which changes when you are talking about Europeans vs Americans. Everytime.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:31 pm So it’s only the socialism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?
My definition hasn't changed. Bernie is literally a democratic socialist, they believe in a democratic government with a socialist economy. AOChe is/was a member of the National Socialists of America and they openly advocated for "public" control of the means of production and distribution. They are more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
Edit: Oh. You actually did it again in the post above.
Last edited by Skjellyfetti on Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"The unmasking thing was all created by Devin Nunes"
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
- Richard Burr, (R-NC)
- BDKJMU
- Level5
- Posts: 28204
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: Culture Wars
Yep. That would be snowflakes on the left who get bent out of shape if you don’t use their preferred pronouns.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:53 amThey're pretty close. Pronouns don't really hurt anyone so only snowflakes get worked up over them. Saying the opposing party is fascist and if they win the end of democracy is nigh is hyperbolic manipulation, meant to inflame the gullible. What kind of idiot would fall for that crap?
So the people getting worked up over pronouns are snowflakes and the people getting worked up over fascism and the impending end of democracy are suckers.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 59660
- Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
- I am a fan of: Eastern
- A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
- Location: Northern Palouse
Re: Culture Wars
Snowflake and pronoun…two words constantly brought up by the right.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:52 pmYep. That would be snowflakes on the left who get bent out of shape if you don’t use their preferred pronouns.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:53 am
They're pretty close. Pronouns don't really hurt anyone so only snowflakes get worked up over them. Saying the opposing party is fascist and if they win the end of democracy is nigh is hyperbolic manipulation, meant to inflame the gullible. What kind of idiot would fall for that crap?
So the people getting worked up over pronouns are snowflakes and the people getting worked up over fascism and the impending end of democracy are suckers.
- UNI88
- Supporter
- Posts: 20368
- Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
- I am a fan of: UNI
- Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River
Re: Culture Wars
Having a Democratic Socialist Party in power does not mean the country is following democratic socialism.reek wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:51 pmYes and there are European countries that are also democratic socialist. When they are brought up, you argue they aren't really socialist because they still have market economies (and ignore all of their socialist policies). That would be your other definition which changes when you are talking about Europeans vs Americans. Everytime.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:31 pm So it’s only the socialism if they’re successful or out in the open about it?
My definition hasn't changed. Bernie is literally a democratic socialist, they believe in a democratic government with a socialist economy. AOChe is/was a member of the National Socialists of America and they openly advocated for "public" control of the means of production and distribution. They are more out in the open about their socialism than trump is about his alleged fascism.
Edit: Oh. You actually did it again in the post above.
Britannica's definition of Democratic Socialism.
A democratic socialist typically believes in a socialist economy with a democratic rather than authoritarian government. The European countries you and kalm are referencing don't have socialist economies.Modern democratic socialists vary widely in their views of how a proper socialist economy should function, but all share the goal of abolishing capitalism rather than improving it through state regulation (as preferred by social democrats).
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm