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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:34 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:07 am

:rofl: Stop watching Rachel Maddow!
It’s widely reported.
Let me guess. Mainstream media? OSINT sites? :lol:

I read Bono personally destroyed a tank after his concert.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:07 am
houndawg wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 12:10 pm

Dude. They're doing it right now. Russian morale is in the toilet according to intercepted transmissions; they're monkeywrenching their own tanks to avoid battle. That's a bad sign for your side, comrade.
:rofl: Stop watching Rachel Maddow!
The whole world is watching and everybody but you - well, you and Putin, sees it. Putin has been an irritating little prick for quite a while now, so other than certain crowds of authoritarian halfwits like the Goatkeepers and Proud Goys, the whole world is enjoying the spectacle of the school bully getting his ass kicked by tough little guy. Don't associate yourself with those ComSymps, SG/SD... :ohno:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:34 am

It’s widely reported.
Let me guess. Mainstream media? OSINT sites? :lol:

I read Bono personally destroyed a tank after his concert.
He probably could do it as shoddy as they are - this is going to cost Russia untold billions in arms sales :coffee:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:34 am

It’s widely reported.
Let me guess. Mainstream media? OSINT sites? :lol:

I read Bono personally destroyed a tank after his concert.
who hasn't personally destroyed a russian tank in Ukraine? I heard Jill Biden personally destroyed a russian tank.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:34 am
It’s widely reported.
Let me guess. Mainstream media? OSINT sites? :lol:

I read Bono personally destroyed a tank after his concert.
You'd be all :evil: if that same source said that Bono personally aborted a baby on stage.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 3:53 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:39 am

Let me guess. Mainstream media? OSINT sites? :lol:

I read Bono personally destroyed a tank after his concert.
You'd be all :evil: if that same source said that Bono personally aborted a baby on stage.
I heard he did that too! Sacrificed to Moloch.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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houndawg wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 1:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:07 am

:rofl: Stop watching Rachel Maddow!
The whole world is watching and everybody but you - well, you and Putin, sees it. Putin has been an irritating little prick for quite a while now, so other than certain crowds of authoritarian halfwits like the Goatkeepers and Proud Goys, the whole world is enjoying the spectacle of the school bully getting his ass kicked by tough little guy. Don't associate yourself with those ComSymps, SG/SD... :ohno:
So when this all comes to an end and you realize the stories of Ukraine's military might were overblown, I'll be here for you. We can start a new thread for you.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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cx500d wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 2:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:39 am

Let me guess. Mainstream media? OSINT sites? :lol:

I read Bono personally destroyed a tank after his concert.
who hasn't personally destroyed a russian tank in Ukraine? I heard Jill Biden personally destroyed a russian tank.
And all it took to destroy that tank was her reading the inside cover of her new book...it's that bad
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 4:04 pm
cx500d wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 2:54 pm

who hasn't personally destroyed a russian tank in Ukraine? I heard Jill Biden personally destroyed a russian tank.
And all it took to destroy that tank was her reading the inside cover of her new book...it's that bad
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cx500d wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 4:48 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 4:04 pm
And all it took to destroy that tank was her reading the inside cover of her new book...it's that bad
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 4:02 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 1:54 pm

The whole world is watching and everybody but you - well, you and Putin, sees it. Putin has been an irritating little prick for quite a while now, so other than certain crowds of authoritarian halfwits like the Goatkeepers and Proud Goys, the whole world is enjoying the spectacle of the school bully getting his ass kicked by tough little guy. Don't associate yourself with those ComSymps, SG/SD... :ohno:
So when this all comes to an end and you realize the stories of Ukraine's military might were overblown, I'll be here for you. We can start a new thread for you.
and your Russian sources on twitter say... what? it's going according to plan?
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 6:39 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 4:02 pm

So when this all comes to an end and you realize the stories of Ukraine's military might were overblown, I'll be here for you. We can start a new thread for you.
and your Russian sources on twitter say... what? it's going according to plan?
I don't need to follow Twitter when the goal of the war is to use artillery to soften up a target and then slowly move in. That is happening right now. Russia is methodically moving towards their goal.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 6:56 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 6:39 pm

and your Russian sources on twitter say... what? it's going according to plan?
I don't need to follow Twitter when the goal of the war is to use artillery to soften up a target and then slowly move in. That is happening right now. Russia is methodically moving towards their goal.
Why didn’t they move into Kiev? Is part of their goal to allow UKR to mount counter offensives in the east and give back territory?
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kalm wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 7:13 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 6:56 pm

I don't need to follow Twitter when the goal of the war is to use artillery to soften up a target and then slowly move in. That is happening right now. Russia is methodically moving towards their goal.
Why didn’t they move into Kiev? Is part of their goal to allow UKR to mount counter offensives in the east and give back territory?
My guess, as is anyone's other than Putin, is speculation. I just know that we're finally starting to hear talk that Ukraine is on the ropes.

Speculation is why I post people who make predictions. That guy who said Ukraine was going after the ammo in that little country was obviously now wrong.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:45 am
SDHornet wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 8:20 pmA 3rd world country wasn't going to beat a nuclear power in a conventional war without US/NATO boots on the ground. If that realization makes you mad to the point of calling me names, then knock yourself out. :coffee:
Someone should probably review some of their postwar history. Replete with examples of developing countries holding off nuclear powers. :coffee:

Ukraine doesn't need boots on the ground. Zelenskiy hasn't been begging for US or NATO troops, he has been pleading for equipment.
In a conventional war setting? :coffee:

How much of that equipment that is sent to Ukraine is being siphoned off by the corrupt Ukrainian government and never seeing the front?
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houndawg wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 12:10 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 8:20 pm

A 3rd world country wasn't going to beat a nuclear power in a conventional war without US/NATO boots on the ground. If that realization makes you mad to the point of calling me names, then knock yourself out. :coffee:
Dude. They're doing it right now. Russian morale is in the toilet according to intercepted transmissions; they're monkeywrenching their own tanks to avoid battle. That's a bad sign for your side, comrade.
My side? :lol:

My side is to stay out of this quagmire. Also doubt your claim above. Sounds like Ghost of Kyiv type propaganda.
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Regime posted these headlines last week. They wouldn't need to push these headlines in an attempt to goad Putin into something worthy of getting US/NATO boots on the ground if they were winning. :twocents:

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SDHornet wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 8:17 pm
houndawg wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 12:10 pm

Dude. They're doing it right now. Russian morale is in the toilet according to intercepted transmissions; they're monkeywrenching their own tanks to avoid battle. That's a bad sign for your side, comrade.
My side? :lol:

My side is to stay out of this quagmire. Also doubt your claim above. Sounds like Ghost of Kyiv type propaganda.
I love how Houndy falls for the Asch conformity experiment every time. Experts say...so I better believe.
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Also saw Ukraine take a L when they tried to retake Snake Island. Conflicting reports on the actual losses, but a few helos and boats were lost in the attempt plus how ever many troops were trying to land in the birds.
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Its not like we don’t have donestic needs or anything.
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I haven't fact checked this but the point stands.
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I was reading somewhere that as of right now, it'll take at least a year to restock the number of Javelin weapons we've given to Ukraine so far, and likely longer to replace the Stinger missiles since there's not even an active manufacturing line to produce those. I'm not negating that these loans to the Ukrainians have been both useful and necessary - thwarting evil isn't free. Any chance that China is just biding its time until our arsenal is pretty depleted and then making their move on Taiwan? Granted, the Javelin's won't really protect Taiwan, can't see China landing tons of tanks there, but the Stingers would be important. Again granted, CID always said Taiwan wouldn't last very long anyway if China really committed to it, but it does feel vulnerable to be using up our stock of weapons in one fight when another fight could be brewing in the relative short future.
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Wrecked Russian fighter jets are being found with rudimentary GPS receivers "taped to the dashboards" in Ukraine because their inbuilt navigation systems are so bad, the UK's defense secretary, Ben Wallace, said.

Speaking at the National Army Museum in London Monday, Wallace commemorated those who died in World War II and called Russia's invasion of Ukraine "senseless and self-defeating."

He added that there was evidence suggesting Russian military hardware was being pushed to breaking point by the invasion of Ukraine.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia- ... -uk-2022-5

Russian artillery may be some of the best in the world, but their pilots are working with commercial Tom-Tom GPS units taped to the dashboard…
Ukraine has shared abundant evidence of what it says are Russia's attempts to patch over issues with old military equipment and bypass equipment shortages.

Last month, Ukrainian troops paraded what they said was a Russian drone that had been covered in duct tape and fitted with a generic plastic bottle top for a fuel cap. In March, Ukrainian troops found what appeared to be Russian army bandages dating to 1978 discarded on a battlefield.
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So now we’re worried about military spending? :suspicious:
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