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CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:23 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:35 am ...these people are hurting society as a whole...
This. Same with those pineapple pushers in pizzerias.
Or companies that make "pasta" using vegetables. Those are the real terrorists, IMO.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:42 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:23 am
This. Same with those pineapple pushers in pizzerias.
Or companies that make "pasta" using vegetables. Those are the real terrorists, IMO.
That is part of the war on obesity.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:59 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:42 am

Or companies that make "pasta" using vegetables. Those are the real terrorists, IMO.
That is part of the war on obesity.
:lol: As someone who is now only 25 lbs overweight (from 35lbs) - it's my own fault. But i've also decided to get healthier instead of continuing down that path. The idea of having diabetes scares me, truly it does. Diabetes puts you at risk for kidney disease which puts you at risk for having to go on dialysis. NO THANK YOU! I will do what I can to avoid that fate.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:42 am
CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:23 am
This. Same with those pineapple pushers in pizzerias.
Or companies that make "pasta" using vegetables. Those are the real terrorists, IMO.
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North Idaho has moved to crisis standards of care.

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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:59 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:25 am

Do you both have the same lack of sympathy for the 90% of COVID victims who are morbidly obese because of lifestyle choices?
Do I feel equal or less sympathy for people who contracted a disease the same way about people who think the virus is either a hoax or not a big deal then medicate themselves with a horse de-wormer vs the actual treatment for illness? :dunce: That's a stupid question. Not everyone who contracts an illness is careless or negligent. In my opinion, anyone using the wrong medication to treat something is being careless. Especially when the manufacturer of said medicine says to NOT use it.

Example - my wife just had an allergic reaction and I had to use the Epi-pen on her. I used the right tool for the problem. I have zero sympathy for people who have a problem and then go use the wrong tools for it. It defies logic.
It's not stupid, Mark. Yes, they contracted the disease. But hey, guess what? The REASON it's a "big deal" is largely (no pun intended) because they're fat. An average of FIVE co-morbidities in every death (including motorcycle accident and stabbing, just to name a couple). Weed out the obese people (which ironically enough, is exactly what's happening), and this thing is only slightly more serious than a moderate flu season. But it's HELL on fat people, with the deaths of perfectly healthy people being the rare exception.

People who are fat and then suffer complications from COVID are just as responsible for their predicament as those who chose to not get vaccinated.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pm
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:59 am

Do I feel equal or less sympathy for people who contracted a disease the same way about people who think the virus is either a hoax or not a big deal then medicate themselves with a horse de-wormer vs the actual treatment for illness? :dunce: That's a stupid question. Not everyone who contracts an illness is careless or negligent. In my opinion, anyone using the wrong medication to treat something is being careless. Especially when the manufacturer of said medicine says to NOT use it.

Example - my wife just had an allergic reaction and I had to use the Epi-pen on her. I used the right tool for the problem. I have zero sympathy for people who have a problem and then go use the wrong tools for it. It defies logic.
It's not stupid, Mark. Yes, they contracted the disease. But hey, guess what? The REASON it's a "big deal" is largely (no pun intended) because they're fat. An average of FIVE co-morbidities in every death (including motorcycle accident and stabbing, just to name a couple). Weed out the obese people (which ironically enough, is exactly what's happening), and this thing is only slightly more serious than a moderate flu season. But it's HELL on fat people, with the deaths of perfectly healthy people being the rare exception.

People who are fat and then suffer complications from COVID are just as responsible for their predicament as those who chose to not get vaccinated.

My post is about people that are taking the wrong drug, against the advice of the drug maker, to treat something there is a vaccine for as well as an effective treatment for. It literally makes zero logical sense as to why would take an anti-parasitic for an virus. You wouldn't take Benadryl to treat herpes, would you? Or how about Prilosec to treat your colon cancer? People are contracting an illness, one that there's a vaccine for, and then treating it in the most ass backwards way. And for what? It boggles the mind. Those are the people I have no sympathy for.

I'm not sure what your correlation is to people that have put themselves at greater risk for a virus and people who take the wrong medicine for a virus. Those two groups aren't necessarily the same. I have sympathy for most people that have caught and died from it. Just because you're fat doesn't mean to you should die from a virus like COVID-19. But we have heard how awful it is to have to be hospitalized with COVID. If you shoot yourself in the foot after being told not to then I don't have any compassion for you. Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pm
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:59 am

Do I feel equal or less sympathy for people who contracted a disease the same way about people who think the virus is either a hoax or not a big deal then medicate themselves with a horse de-wormer vs the actual treatment for illness? :dunce: That's a stupid question. Not everyone who contracts an illness is careless or negligent. In my opinion, anyone using the wrong medication to treat something is being careless. Especially when the manufacturer of said medicine says to NOT use it.

Example - my wife just had an allergic reaction and I had to use the Epi-pen on her. I used the right tool for the problem. I have zero sympathy for people who have a problem and then go use the wrong tools for it. It defies logic.
It's not stupid, Mark. Yes, they contracted the disease. But hey, guess what? The REASON it's a "big deal" is largely (no pun intended) because they're fat. An average of FIVE co-morbidities in every death (including motorcycle accident and stabbing, just to name a couple). Weed out the obese people (which ironically enough, is exactly what's happening), and this thing is only slightly more serious than a moderate flu season. But it's HELL on fat people, with the deaths of perfectly healthy people being the rare exception.

People who are fat and then suffer complications from COVID are just as responsible for their predicament as those who chose to not get vaccinated.
I wouldn't classify any of the people I know that died as any more obese than Mark. My sister's neighbor is fighting for her life right now, was not obese, never smoked, etc. Sounds like the MSM telling me I'm not seeing what I am seeing.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:18 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pm

It's not stupid, Mark. Yes, they contracted the disease. But hey, guess what? The REASON it's a "big deal" is largely (no pun intended) because they're fat. An average of FIVE co-morbidities in every death (including motorcycle accident and stabbing, just to name a couple). Weed out the obese people (which ironically enough, is exactly what's happening), and this thing is only slightly more serious than a moderate flu season. But it's HELL on fat people, with the deaths of perfectly healthy people being the rare exception.

People who are fat and then suffer complications from COVID are just as responsible for their predicament as those who chose to not get vaccinated.

My post is about people that are taking the wrong drug, against the advice of the drug maker, to treat something there is a vaccine for as well as an effective treatment for. It literally makes zero logical sense as to why would take an anti-parasitic for an virus. You wouldn't take Benadryl to treat herpes, would you? Or how about Prilosec to treat your colon cancer? People are contracting an illness, one that there's a vaccine for, and then treating it in the most ass backwards way. And for what? It boggles the mind. Those are the people I have no sympathy for.

I'm not sure what your correlation is to people that have put themselves at greater risk for a virus and people who take the wrong medicine for a virus. Those two groups aren't necessarily the same. I have sympathy for most people that have caught and died from it. Just because you're fat doesn't mean to you should die from a virus like COVID-19. But we have heard how awful it is to have to be hospitalized with COVID. If you shoot yourself in the foot after being told not to then I don't have any compassion for you. Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
And the politics.

I mentioned one of my best friend’s father being a denier and Qanon follower (many in the family are) who died of it recently. His wife secretly got vaxxed and was fine. Today I learned that his brother also just died. Both relatively healthy in their early-mid 60’s.

But I do have sympathy. We all roll the dice to some degree.
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CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:12 am
kalm wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:53 am Hardly any side effects with the first two Moderna shots but the booster…wowza!

Got it Friday. Just a sore arm. Tried to play golf Saturday and was fatigued and weak the whole day. Felt normal Sunday. Sunday night and all day yesterday was like the flu with gastro issues, aches, massive fatigue, but no fever. Uncomfortable sleep most of the day.

Hence why I’m up at 2:30 am writing this glowing endorsement. :mrgreen:
How did you get a booster shot of Moderna? I thought it was not supposed to happen until after 8 months? When did you get your first two shots?
Supposedly the Moderna booster ism’t even ready yet.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:41 pm
CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:12 am

How did you get a booster shot of Moderna? I thought it was not supposed to happen until after 8 months? When did you get your first two shots?
Supposedly the Moderna booster ism’t even ready yet.
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I’m guessing that’s for the mass rollout approval. I have a Moderna Lot#.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:41 pm
CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:12 am

How did you get a booster shot of Moderna? I thought it was not supposed to happen until after 8 months? When did you get your first two shots?
Supposedly the Moderna booster ism’t even ready yet.
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Time to buy some calls....eventually it'll get approved.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:55 pm
HI54UNI wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:45 am Coronabros freaking out over the return of college football.

:lol:
The packed stadiums are a big "fuck you" to the Coronabros. I thoroughly enjoy it. :nod:
Yeah, the Coronabros at CNN are beside themselves.. :lol:
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FHP....

"Nobody was wearing a mask … I'd be very disappointed if we didn’t have outbreaks"
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89Hen wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:49 pm FHP....

"Nobody was wearing a mask … I'd be very disappointed if we didn’t have outbreaks"
They really said "disappointed" rather than "surprised"? That is cold-hearted.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:10 pm
Internal Documents Further Contradict Fauci’s ‘Gain-of-Function’ Research Denials
The internal documents detail the work of EcoHealth Alliance, an American research non-profit which used NIH funding to research novel bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan lab. Among the documents, which were obtained by The Intercept through a Freedom of Information Act request, is a previously unpublished EcoHealth Alliance grant proposal filed with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, which is run by Fauci.
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Fauci has repeatedly insisted during his Senate testimony that the research being funded by the NIH at the WIV did not qualify as “gain-of-function” under the NIH’s current definition. But critics, including Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, have accused Fauci of playing semantic games by excluding research which makes bat coronaviruses more transmissible — the commonly accepted definition of “gain-of-function” — from his more convenient definition.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:46 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:55 pm
The packed stadiums are a big "fuck you" to the Coronabros. I thoroughly enjoy it. :nod:
Yeah, the Coronabros at CNN are beside themselves.. :lol:
How will the anti-vax COVIDiots react when their favorite football team has to forfeit a game due to the virus? What happens if an NFL team misses the playoffs due to roster impacts of the virus?
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They'll probably be in a hospital ass up on a ventilator and unable to watch.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:25 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pm

It's not stupid, Mark. Yes, they contracted the disease. But hey, guess what? The REASON it's a "big deal" is largely (no pun intended) because they're fat. An average of FIVE co-morbidities in every death (including motorcycle accident and stabbing, just to name a couple). Weed out the obese people (which ironically enough, is exactly what's happening), and this thing is only slightly more serious than a moderate flu season. But it's HELL on fat people, with the deaths of perfectly healthy people being the rare exception.

People who are fat and then suffer complications from COVID are just as responsible for their predicament as those who chose to not get vaccinated.
I wouldn't classify any of the people I know that died as any more obese than Mark. My sister's neighbor is fighting for her life right now, was not obese, never smoked, etc. Sounds like the MSM telling me I'm not seeing what I am seeing.
As I said, there are deaths of “healthy” people….just like the flu. But the vast majority have severe comorbidities….and the top one is obesity/diabetes. That seems to be the winning combination.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:18 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pm

It's not stupid, Mark. Yes, they contracted the disease. But hey, guess what? The REASON it's a "big deal" is largely (no pun intended) because they're fat. An average of FIVE co-morbidities in every death (including motorcycle accident and stabbing, just to name a couple). Weed out the obese people (which ironically enough, is exactly what's happening), and this thing is only slightly more serious than a moderate flu season. But it's HELL on fat people, with the deaths of perfectly healthy people being the rare exception.

People who are fat and then suffer complications from COVID are just as responsible for their predicament as those who chose to not get vaccinated.

My post is about people that are taking the wrong drug, against the advice of the drug maker, to treat something there is a vaccine for as well as an effective treatment for. It literally makes zero logical sense as to why would take an anti-parasitic for an virus. You wouldn't take Benadryl to treat herpes, would you? Or how about Prilosec to treat your colon cancer? People are contracting an illness, one that there's a vaccine for, and then treating it in the most ass backwards way. And for what? It boggles the mind. Those are the people I have no sympathy for.

I'm not sure what your correlation is to people that have put themselves at greater risk for a virus and people who take the wrong medicine for a virus. Those two groups aren't necessarily the same. I have sympathy for most people that have caught and died from it. Just because you're fat doesn't mean to you should die from a virus like COVID-19. But we have heard how awful it is to have to be hospitalized with COVID. If you shoot yourself in the foot after being told not to then I don't have any compassion for you. Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
And my point is that if obesity wasn’t an epidemic in this country, neither would COVID be, and this would all be a moot point.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:15 pm
Ibanez wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:18 pm


My post is about people that are taking the wrong drug, against the advice of the drug maker, to treat something there is a vaccine for as well as an effective treatment for. It literally makes zero logical sense as to why would take an anti-parasitic for an virus. You wouldn't take Benadryl to treat herpes, would you? Or how about Prilosec to treat your colon cancer? People are contracting an illness, one that there's a vaccine for, and then treating it in the most ass backwards way. And for what? It boggles the mind. Those are the people I have no sympathy for.

I'm not sure what your correlation is to people that have put themselves at greater risk for a virus and people who take the wrong medicine for a virus. Those two groups aren't necessarily the same. I have sympathy for most people that have caught and died from it. Just because you're fat doesn't mean to you should die from a virus like COVID-19. But we have heard how awful it is to have to be hospitalized with COVID. If you shoot yourself in the foot after being told not to then I don't have any compassion for you. Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
And my point is that if obesity wasn’t an epidemic in this country, neither would COVID be, and this would all be a moot point.
You realize the US isn't the center of the world and Covid-19 is affecting other nations as well, most with less obesity rates...

...this is a global pandemic. We have more data than just our people.

The biggest protection against death or severe illness is the vaccine. Secondary to that is your general health.
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