Coronavirus COVID-19

[kalm]

Hmm. As always, will have to see if this is actually true, or disinformation.

It ultimately won’t matter.

It is good that there is honest inquiry finally happening, but in terms of actual proof I believe we will always be stuck with two plausible possibilities - zoonotic transfer and lab leak, leaning towards lab leak.

But the CCP is NEVER going to be forthcoming on this and they are already flexing on their co-opted countries for top cover in the UN.

And so where we are now is probably where we will remain.


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This seems highly likely.

[Gil Dobie]

Minnesota Menards

On the same day that the CDC changed its face mask guidance and Gov. Tim Walz announced Minnesota would be lifting its mask mandate, an angry exchanger over face masks happened at a Menards checkout.

Video of the incident was shared to Facebook by Laura Therese, who was waiting in line behind a man and woman who were at the till at Menards in Buffalo, Minnesota.

The man was involved in a heated exchange with the checkout worker, who refused to ring him up until he put a face mask on.

This was before Minnesota's face mask mandate was lifted on Friday. Even though the mandate has been lifted, only fully vaccinated people can stop wearing face masks indoors, and individual businesses are still permitted to require masks be worn.

In this instance, it's not clear if the man at the till has been vaccinated, but either way, Menards still requires face masks be worn by all customers inside its stores.

Gil, are you still scared after all these months? You’re vaccinated. Live your life.

Look who came out of hiding. If you had been following along, you would see I'm pointing out BS on both sides.

And welcome the fuck back

[SeattleGriz]

Hmm. As always, will have to see if this is actually true, or disinformation.

It ultimately won’t matter.

It is good that there is honest inquiry finally happening, but in terms of actual proof I believe we will always be stuck with two plausible possibilities - zoonotic transfer and lab leak, leaning towards lab leak.

But the CCP is NEVER going to be forthcoming on this and they are already flexing on their co-opted countries for top cover in the UN.

And so where we are now is probably where we will remain.


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Not disagreeing with you, simply trying to keep continuity on the defector story.

[BDKJMU]

Looking at World-o-meter 7 day avg us cases now 14.7k a day, down 96% from Jan peak 350+k a day. Deaths 378, down 89% from Jan peak 3500+ a day.

Anyone who wants a vaccine has gotten it (or could gave).Zero reason for anyone to be wearing masks now.

[kalm]

Looking at World-o-meter 7 day avg us cases now 14.7k a day, down 96% from Jan peak 350+k a day. Deaths 378, down 89% from Jan peak 3500+ a day.

Anyone who wants a vaccine has gotten it (or could gave).Zero reason for anyone to be wearing masks now.

Unless a businesses requests it.

[BDKJMU]

Looking at World-o-meter 7 day avg us cases now 14.7k a day, down 96% from Jan peak 350+k a day. Deaths 378, down 89% from Jan peak 3500+ a day.

Anyone who wants a vaccine has gotten it (or could gave).Zero reason for anyone to be wearing masks now.

Unless a businesses requests it.

If a business has a sign saying masks required you can ignore it and most of the time no one will say anything to you. A lot of these businesses only had that sign up because of state mandates, or for liability reasons, but didn’t enforce it.

And if someone does say something to you, you can take your business somewhere else. Unless you live in a liberal donkistan, there are plenty other places where no one will say anything to you.

[kalm]

Unless a businesses requests it.

If a business has a sign saying masks required you can ignore it and most of the time no one will say anything to you. A lot of these businesses only had that sign up because of state mandates, or for liability reasons, but didn’t enforce it.

And if someone does say something to you, you can take your business somewhere else. Unless you live in a liberal donkistan, there are plenty other places where no one will say anything to you.

Of you can simply show respect and do the right thing.

[AZGrizFan]

If a business has a sign saying masks required you can ignore it and most of the time no one will say anything to you. A lot of these businesses only had that sign up because of state mandates, or for liability reasons, but didn’t enforce it.

And if someone does say something to you, you can take your business somewhere else. Unless you live in a liberal donkistan, there are plenty other places where no one will say anything to you.

Of you can simply show respect and do the right thing.

Which is exactly what he’s saying. RIF....

[AZGrizFan]

Wow. John Rahm just got bent over and fucked hard by the PGA’s stupid COVID rules. Dude has a SIX STROKE lead going into Sunday’s final round, and just was forced to withdraw because he tested positive for COVID. He’s asymptomatic. Why can’t he play? Stay away from the other golfers, stay away from the crowd, play your fucking game and move on.

When do we stop treating it like testing positive is a death sentence for everyone around you?

[kalm]

Of you can simply show respect and do the right thing.

Which is exactly what he’s saying. RIF....

Oh. I thought he said ignore it.

[AZGrizFan]

Which is exactly what he’s saying. RIF....

Oh. I thought he said ignore it.

Which is the right thing.

[Gil Dobie]

Looking at World-o-meter 7 day avg us cases now 14.7k a day, down 96% from Jan peak 350+k a day. Deaths 378, down 89% from Jan peak 3500+ a day.

Anyone who wants a vaccine has gotten it (or could gave).Zero reason for anyone to be wearing masks now.

Unless a businesses requests it.

It's freedom, a business can require a mask, just like no shirt, no shoes. No service.

[AZGrizFan]

Unless a businesses requests it.

It's freedom, a business can require a mask, just like no shirt, no shoes. No service.

What’s a business going to do if 80% of their clientele disregard the “requirement”?

I can tell you what they do, THEY disregard it as well....I’ve seen it play out time and time again over the past several weeks in Texas. Bars. Restaurants. Grocery Stores. Drug stores. Athletic events. ALL saying “mask required”. All basically ignoring their own requirement because otherwise, 80% of the people would leave (or not be there in the first place).

[kalm]

Oh. I thought he said ignore it.

Which is the right thing.

Ignoring a business’s rules is the right thing?

[Gil Dobie]

It's freedom, a business can require a mask, just like no shirt, no shoes. No service.

What’s a business going to do if 80% of their clientele disregard the “requirement”?

I can tell you what they do, THEY disregard it as well....I’ve seen it play out time and time again over the past several weeks in Texas. Bars. Restaurants. Grocery Stores. Drug stores. Athletic events. ALL saying “mask required”. All basically ignoring their own requirement because otherwise, 80% of the people would leave (or not be there in the first place).

There is a store in Hopkins where you don't get in without a mask and gloves. Almost all customers have been respectful. A few bitch, but they either do what the business requires or leave.

[AZGrizFan]

What’s a business going to do if 80% of their clientele disregard the “requirement”?

I can tell you what they do, THEY disregard it as well....I’ve seen it play out time and time again over the past several weeks in Texas. Bars. Restaurants. Grocery Stores. Drug stores. Athletic events. ALL saying “mask required”. All basically ignoring their own requirement because otherwise, 80% of the people would leave (or not be there in the first place).

There is a store in Hopkins where you don't get in without a mask and gloves. Almost all customers have been respectful. A few bitch, but they either do what the business requires or leave.

I would bet that store is doing materially LESS business than other stores like it that don’t have those requirements. And if not, then people in Minnesota are colossally stupid.

[Gil Dobie]

There is a store in Hopkins where you don't get in without a mask and gloves. Almost all customers have been respectful. A few bitch, but they either do what the business requires or leave.

I would bet that store is doing materially LESS business than other stores like it that don’t have those requirements. And if not, then people in Minnesota are colossally stupid.

It's sports collectibles and it's doing very well. We had a show today, and maybe 30 people out of the 500 there wore masks. Nobody made fun of them, and they didn't bitch about people not wearing masks. We were there to have fun, enjoy our hobby, and maybe make a few bucks. In the immortal words of Bill Shakespeare, "To Thine Own Self Be True".

[BDKJMU]

Which is the right thing.

Ignoring a business’s rules is the right thing?

Its usually not the business’s rules if that sign is only up because of a donk gov mandate.

[kalm]

Ignoring a business’s rules is the right thing?

Its usually not the business’s rules if that sign is only up because of a donk gov mandate.

Well you said there’s zero reason...

I’m going to put it one on if there’s a sign or if most of the people in the room are wearing them. At this point simply out of respect and to reassure those around me.

It’s just not the big of an ask. Never was.

[Gil Dobie]

Its usually not the business’s rules if that sign is only up because of a donk gov mandate.

Well you said there’s zero reason...

I’m going to put it one on if there’s a sign or if most of the people in the room are wearing them. At this point simply out of respect and to reassure those around me.

It’s just not the big of an ask. Never was.

No mandate in Minnesota at this time, but business can still require mask if they choose.

[Gil Dobie]

Wow. John Rahm just got bent over and fucked hard by the PGA’s stupid COVID rules. Dude has a SIX STROKE lead going into Sunday’s final round, and just was forced to withdraw because he tested positive for COVID. He’s asymptomatic. Why can’t he play? Stay away from the other golfers, stay away from the crowd, play your fucking game and move on.

When do we stop treating it like testing positive is a death sentence for everyone around you?

If Rahm had been vaccinated, he may still be playing. According to the PGA, he would not have gone thru the testing routine if he had been vaccinated. It's freedom, his choice to be or not to be vaccinated, but the people in control of his paycheck had rules, which gave him a choice. He has to live with his freedom of choice.

Update: Rahm decided to get his first vaccination after learning he was in close contact with a covid positive person.

[AZGrizFan]

Wow. John Rahm just got bent over and fucked hard by the PGA’s stupid COVID rules. Dude has a SIX STROKE lead going into Sunday’s final round, and just was forced to withdraw because he tested positive for COVID. He’s asymptomatic. Why can’t he play? Stay away from the other golfers, stay away from the crowd, play your fucking game and move on.

When do we stop treating it like testing positive is a death sentence for everyone around you?

If Rahm had been vaccinated, he may still be playing. According to the PGA, he would not have gone thru the testing routine if he had been vaccinated. It's freedom, his choice to be or not to be vaccinated, but the people in control of his paycheck had rules, which gave him a choice. He has to live with his freedom of choice.

Update: Rahm decided to get his first vaccination after learning he was in close contact with a covid positive person.

It’s NOT freedom. It’s FORCED vaccination.

[Gil Dobie]

If Rahm had been vaccinated, he may still be playing. According to the PGA, he would not have gone thru the testing routine if he had been vaccinated. It's freedom, his choice to be or not to be vaccinated, but the people in control of his paycheck had rules, which gave him a choice. He has to live with his freedom of choice.

Update: Rahm decided to get his first vaccination after learning he was in close contact with a covid positive person.

It’s NOT freedom. It’s FORCED vaccination.

Only about half the tour is vaccinated, how is it forced?

[SeattleGriz]

It’s NOT freedom. It’s FORCED vaccination.

Only about half the tour is vaccinated, how is it forced?

What if he has post COVID immunity? That's better than a vaccine. Did they run an antibody test on him?

[Gil Dobie]

Only about half the tour is vaccinated, how is it forced?

What if he has post COVID immunity? That's better than a vaccine. Did they run an antibody test on him?

He has covid now.