RIght, but you're implying then that Trump drove away more voters than he gained/brought. So you think another candidate would have at least had a better chance of winning. I don't. I think he did drive away his share of voters, but I think he brought more people out to vote for him than would have come out for a Cruz, Rubio, Pence, you name them.
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Not in 2020, see if anything changes in 2024, or we get Trump running again. There are better candidate than the ones mentioned. Haley, DeSantis, Noem just off the top.89Hen wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 3:47 pmRIght, but you're implying then that Trump drove away more voters than he gained/brought. So you think another candidate would have at least had a better chance of winning. I don't. I think he did drive away his share of voters, but I think he brought more people out to vote for him than would have come out for a Cruz, Rubio, Pence, you name them.
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And most of R party don’t believe the party should go in a different direction from everything the Trump admin accomplished or advocated. “Go in a different direction” would be tax increases, open borders, liberal judges, more regulation, America 2nd, etc, etc..”Go in a different direction” is what we’re getting with Biden..Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:20 amProbably b/c everyone else is still clinging to Trump b/c they're afraid of going against him and invoking his name. As a leader, Liz felt the party should go in a different direction.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 am
Then why focus on him at all? Press on with the positives that will come without Trump. She couldn't even do that.
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AH. yes. I think it's something like 94 to 78, Cheney.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:44 pmShould have been more clear, I was talking voting record.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:58 am
Boy, are you wrong.
https://apnews.com/article/ny-state-wir ... 720a9fc70a
The GOP is going in one direction and Liz was vocal about it being the wrong direction. I get that. Doesn't make it any less ironic that she was cancelled for speaking out against Trump. If she was so horrible at her job why wasn't she kicked out in February or any other time since 2019.
Oh yeah..the calls to remove her only came once she began criticize Trump.
And in regards to what the difference between February and now, it was that everyone was fine with Cheney speaking her mind, but to keep droning on and on over her complaints wore thin...because she wasn't doing her job.
That's a valid point - but she wouldn't have had to keep droning on if the lies about a stolen election and other conspiracy theory nonsense wasn't being embraced and mentioned. She spoke her mind and pushed back against that BS.
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Good for her! Now get to doing your job.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:00 pmAH. yes. I think it's something like 94 to 78, Cheney.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:44 pm
Should have been more clear, I was talking voting record.
And in regards to what the difference between February and now, it was that everyone was fine with Cheney speaking her mind, but to keep droning on and on over her complaints wore thin...because she wasn't doing her job.
That's a valid point - but she wouldn't have had to keep droning on if the lies about a stolen election and other conspiracy theory nonsense wasn't being embraced and mentioned. She spoke her mind and pushed back against that BS.
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A different direction from Trump could also be as simple as a leader with character who takes responsibility and acts like an adult.BDKJMU wrote:And most of R party don’t believe the party should go in a different direction from everything the Trump admin accomplished or advocated. “Go in a different direction” would be tax increases, open borders, liberal judges, more regulation, America 2nd, etc, etc..”Go in a different direction” is what we’re getting with Biden..
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Liz Cheney on Fox. What a trainwreck.
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Please identify the current leader taking responsibility for:UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:32 pmA different direction from Trump could also be as simple as a leader with character who takes responsibility and acts like an adult.BDKJMU wrote: And most of R party don’t believe the party should go in a different direction from everything the Trump admin accomplished or advocated. “Go in a different direction” would be tax increases, open borders, liberal judges, more regulation, America 2nd, etc, etc..”Go in a different direction” is what we’re getting with Biden..
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*gas shortage
*pipeline hack
*border crisis
*soaring inflation
*Israel under attack
*Iran flexing it’s muscles
*RussIa about to go to war agin
And don’t tell me Biden or Harris. He’s not allowed to take impromptu questions and she’s been AWOL for 50 days now since being named Border Czar.
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I'm not saying that Biden or Harris is that kind of leader, I'm saying that going "in a different direction from the Trump admin" doesn't have to be about policy but could be about character and leadership. Many of Trump's policies were great but he was beyond lacking in character, integrity and leadership.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:53 pmPlease identify the current leader taking responsibility for:
*gas shortage
*pipeline hack
*border crisis
*soaring inflation
*Israel under attack
*Iran flexing it’s muscles
*RussIa about to go to war agin
And don’t tell me Biden or Harris. He’s not allowed to take impromptu questions and she’s been AWOL for 50 days now since being named Border Czar.
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So instead we replaced him and Pence with a couple of bozos who have neither character, leadership, integrity OR good policies.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:00 pmI'm not saying that Biden or Harris is that kind of leader, I'm saying that going "in a different direction from the Trump admin" doesn't have to be about policy but could be about character and leadership. Many of Trump's policies were great but he was beyond lacking in character, integrity and leadership.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:53 pm
Please identify the current leader taking responsibility for:
*gas shortage
*pipeline hack
*border crisis
*soaring inflation
*Israel under attack
*Iran flexing it’s muscles
*RussIa about to go to war agin
And don’t tell me Biden or Harris. He’s not allowed to take impromptu questions and she’s been AWOL for 50 days now since being named Border Czar.
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Replaced a couple of bozo's with a couple of bozo's.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:21 pmSo instead we replaced him and Pence with a couple of bozos who have neither character, leadership, integrity OR good policies.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:00 pm
I'm not saying that Biden or Harris is that kind of leader, I'm saying that going "in a different direction from the Trump admin" doesn't have to be about policy but could be about character and leadership. Many of Trump's policies were great but he was beyond lacking in character, integrity and leadership.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 2:44 pmShould have been more clear, I was talking voting record.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:58 am
Boy, are you wrong.
https://apnews.com/article/ny-state-wir ... 720a9fc70a
The GOP is going in one direction and Liz was vocal about it being the wrong direction. I get that. Doesn't make it any less ironic that she was cancelled for speaking out against Trump. If she was so horrible at her job why wasn't she kicked out in February or any other time since 2019.
Oh yeah..the calls to remove her only came once she began criticize Trump.
And in regards to what the difference between February and now, it was that everyone was fine with Cheney speaking her mind, but to keep droning on and on over her complaints wore thin...because she wasn't doing her job.
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Why/how is it Biden's responsibility that Israel is under attack and that a private company was hacked? It's Biden's responsibility that every one here with Trump bumper stickers is panic buying gas? Border crisis, Iran, Inflation (to a point) I can see your point. Not sure what Biden has to do with Russia since Trump spent 4 years sucking Vlads cock.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:53 pmPlease identify the current leader taking responsibility for:
*gas shortage
*pipeline hack
*border crisis
*soaring inflation
*Israel under attack
*Iran flexing it’s muscles
*RussIa about to go to war agin
And don’t tell me Biden or Harris. He’s not allowed to take impromptu questions and she’s been AWOL for 50 days now since being named Border Czar.
But if you're expecting a leader to take responsibility, please ID when Trump took it for
Solar winds
The so-called rigged 2020 Election
Wildfires
Coronavirus response
Kobe's Death
Race Protests and Riots
C'mon - you're buying into the idea that "my party can act like dipshits and elect horrible people but YOUR party better act right and be pure." Let's put them all on the same playing field and judge them equally.
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Biden could announce today that he's going to expand 2A and overturn Roe and Republicans would bitch and moan about it. It's lose-lose for any POTUS these days.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:21 pmSo instead we replaced him and Pence with a couple of bozos who have neither character, leadership, integrity OR good policies.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:00 pm
I'm not saying that Biden or Harris is that kind of leader, I'm saying that going "in a different direction from the Trump admin" doesn't have to be about policy but could be about character and leadership. Many of Trump's policies were great but he was beyond lacking in character, integrity and leadership.
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Meh. Bottom line is the Biden* admin is viewed as weak, hence all the worldwide conflicts going on. Things seemed to unravel pretty fast in the first 100 days. That says a lot.Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:21 amWhy/how is it Biden's responsibility that Israel is under attack and that a private company was hacked? It's Biden's responsibility that every one here with Trump bumper stickers is panic buying gas? Border crisis, Iran, Inflation (to a point) I can see your point. Not sure what Biden has to do with Russia since Trump spent 4 years sucking Vlads cock.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:53 pm
Please identify the current leader taking responsibility for:
*gas shortage
*pipeline hack
*border crisis
*soaring inflation
*Israel under attack
*Iran flexing it’s muscles
*RussIa about to go to war agin
And don’t tell me Biden or Harris. He’s not allowed to take impromptu questions and she’s been AWOL for 50 days now since being named Border Czar.
But if you're expecting a leader to take responsibility, please ID when Trump took it for
Solar winds
The so-called rigged 2020 Election
Wildfires
Coronavirus response
Kobe's Death
Race Protests and Riots
C'mon - you're buying into the idea that "my party can act like dipshits and elect horrible people but YOUR party better act right and be pure." Let's put them all on the same playing field and judge them equally.
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Weak or feeble?SDHornet wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:05 amMeh. Bottom line is the Biden* admin is viewed as weak, hence all the worldwide conflicts going on. Things seemed to unravel pretty fast in the first 100 days. That says a lot.Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:21 am
Why/how is it Biden's responsibility that Israel is under attack and that a private company was hacked? It's Biden's responsibility that every one here with Trump bumper stickers is panic buying gas? Border crisis, Iran, Inflation (to a point) I can see your point. Not sure what Biden has to do with Russia since Trump spent 4 years sucking Vlads cock.
But if you're expecting a leader to take responsibility, please ID when Trump took it for
Solar winds
The so-called rigged 2020 Election
Wildfires
Coronavirus response
Kobe's Death
Race Protests and Riots
C'mon - you're buying into the idea that "my party can act like dipshits and elect horrible people but YOUR party better act right and be pure." Let's put them all on the same playing field and judge them equally.
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That's how I see it. He's proud of looking good to our allies (like they would leave us) but doesn't care that our enemies see an opportunity.
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In Bidens* case, it's both.
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Too nuanced for Ibanez. He’s the new Klammy....SDHornet wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:05 amMeh. Bottom line is the Biden* admin is viewed as weak, hence all the worldwide conflicts going on. Things seemed to unravel pretty fast in the first 100 days. That says a lot.Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:21 am
Why/how is it Biden's responsibility that Israel is under attack and that a private company was hacked? It's Biden's responsibility that every one here with Trump bumper stickers is panic buying gas? Border crisis, Iran, Inflation (to a point) I can see your point. Not sure what Biden has to do with Russia since Trump spent 4 years sucking Vlads cock.
But if you're expecting a leader to take responsibility, please ID when Trump took it for
Solar winds
The so-called rigged 2020 Election
Wildfires
Coronavirus response
Kobe's Death
Race Protests and Riots
C'mon - you're buying into the idea that "my party can act like dipshits and elect horrible people but YOUR party better act right and be pure." Let's put them all on the same playing field and judge them equally.
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No, it’s not. And you can say shit like that because you KNOW it won’t ever happen. If it DID, I’d have a different opinion of him. But that’s such a straw man argument as to be almost comical.
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How about eliminate the minimum wage and social security?
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I’d be fine with both of those as well. Very, very few people make the minimum wage anyways. Salary should NOT be a function of the government. Nor should saving for retirement.
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