Oh noes the chicoms have our FB info. The horror...clenz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:39 amIf you think China, and 40 other countries, and every genome mapping site out there don't already know everything about you you are sorely mistaken. Not that that being true means we should just offer everything up at will, but it's worth remembering as (royal) you sit there screaming about privacy and keeping China and the baddies from getting your information.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:38 pm Big reason I haven't done the genome mapping through sites like 21 and Me.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-us-b ... 186896#app
There was just a big story this weekend about it. China is known to have stolen extremely personal/identifiable/deep information on well over 80% of the US population. If you want to believe you are in that less than 20% then so be it.
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If you think that's what they have then I want the drugs you're on.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:40 amOh noes the chicoms have our FB info. The horror...clenz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:39 am
If you think China, and 40 other countries, and every genome mapping site out there don't already know everything about you you are sorely mistaken. Not that that being true means we should just offer everything up at will, but it's worth remembering as (royal) you sit there screaming about privacy and keeping China and the baddies from getting your information.
There was just a big story this weekend about it. China is known to have stolen extremely personal/identifiable/deep information on well over 80% of the US population. If you want to believe you are in that less than 20% then so be it.
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I assume everything and anything online is available to anyone and everyone in some sort of fashion.
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Hence "emergency". Look how long it's taking to pass stimulus. Legislation is a slower process and often times intentionally so over politics. It's a worthy debate as the other smells of autocracy.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:32 amCouldn't disagree more. When "laws" are made outside of their normal process, I'd argue they don't endure the legal scrutiny that would ensure that the citizens rights aren't imposed on. If it was that big of a deal, the governor would work with their respective state legislatures to get these laws in place.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:28 am
That's being debated. LE should be able to enforce emergency restrictions regardless of whether they agree with it or not. The fact many LEO's do not is bullshit. Again, it wouldn't need to happen if people could take the available science and make the right decisions towards their community.
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Still disagree. Seen enough "emergency" legislation following 9/11 to know better, and so should you. Also you're talking federal level. I am vehemently opposed to a one size fits all "emergency" China Virus legislation from DC. Fuck that. Governors can and should work with their respective state legislature to get their "emergency" regulations in place to fit their needs.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:49 amHence "emergency". Look how long it's taking to pass stimulus. Legislation is a slower process and often times intentionally so over politics. It's a worthy debate as the other smells of autocracy.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:32 am
Couldn't disagree more. When "laws" are made outside of their normal process, I'd argue they don't endure the legal scrutiny that would ensure that the citizens rights aren't imposed on. If it was that big of a deal, the governor would work with their respective state legislatures to get these laws in place.
Besides, MI is a perfect example of why "emergency" edicts should be limited, and fortunately for the people of MI the courts ruled Whitmer exceeded her "emergency" bounds.
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CNN sans Fred’s) and the New York Times, are suddenly ripping into the Emmy-Award winning Governor of New York for his horrible leadership and actions in the current pandemic...
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Gubernatorial emergency edicts have a place but they should have a running clock and require legislative approval within a month, two months max.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:09 amStill disagree. Seen enough "emergency" legislation following 9/11 to know better, and so should you. Also you're talking federal level. I am vehemently opposed to a one size fits all "emergency" China Virus legislation from DC. Fuck that. Governors can and should work with their respective state legislature to get their "emergency" regulations in place to fit their needs.
Besides, MI is a perfect example of why "emergency" edicts should be limited, and fortunately for the people of MI the courts ruled Whitmer exceeded her "emergency" bounds.
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For the people that only have a 1 layer masks that don't work as well as the recommended masks. Recommended home-made mask have 2 layers with a filter inside.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:24 amDidn't Fauci say 2 were better? Aren't we supposed to listen to the doctors?
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Unless a laboratory ran a genetic sequencing test on me without my approval, I have no genomic mapping out there. The other option is that someone took my sample and ran it outside their laboratory, which is highly unlikely.clenz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:39 amIf you think China, and 40 other countries, and every genome mapping site out there don't already know everything about you you are sorely mistaken. Not that that being true means we should just offer everything up at will, but it's worth remembering as (royal) you sit there screaming about privacy and keeping China and the baddies from getting your information.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:38 pm Big reason I haven't done the genome mapping through sites like 21 and Me.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-us-b ... 186896#app
There was just a big story this weekend about it. China is known to have stolen extremely personal/identifiable/deep information on well over 80% of the US population. If you want to believe you are in that less than 20% then so be it.
I came from the lab industry. I understand all testing that has been performed on me.
Now could they have gotten access to my medical records? You bet, but genetic sequencing? Not yet.
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Yeah...not a fan of more government and less rights. Look back on my old arguments with Ivy regarding the security state and 4th amendment.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:09 amStill disagree. Seen enough "emergency" legislation following 9/11 to know better, and so should you. Also you're talking federal level. I am vehemently opposed to a one size fits all "emergency" China Virus legislation from DC. Fuck that. Governors can and should work with their respective state legislature to get their "emergency" regulations in place to fit their needs.
Besides, MI is a perfect example of why "emergency" edicts should be limited, and fortunately for the people of MI the courts ruled Whitmer exceeded her "emergency" bounds.
I merely brought up the stimulus as an example of what legislatures do. All executive branches have emergency powers for this reason. The argument is how much and for how long?
Sorry Mr. Roosevelt, we’d really like to continue fighting the Nazi’s but times up!
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Only limited by what’s expressly stated in the Constitution.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:11 pmYeah...not a fan of more government and less rights. Look back on my old arguments with Ivy regarding the security state and 4th amendment.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:09 am
Still disagree. Seen enough "emergency" legislation following 9/11 to know better, and so should you. Also you're talking federal level. I am vehemently opposed to a one size fits all "emergency" China Virus legislation from DC. Fuck that. Governors can and should work with their respective state legislature to get their "emergency" regulations in place to fit their needs.
Besides, MI is a perfect example of why "emergency" edicts should be limited, and fortunately for the people of MI the courts ruled Whitmer exceeded her "emergency" bounds.
I merely brought up the stimulus as an example of what legislatures do. All executive branches have emergency powers for this reason. The argument is how much and for how long?
Sorry Mr. Roosevelt, we’d really like to continue fighting the Nazi’s but times up!
I believe in states rights but those too are limited. Especially in a system with open borders and commerce.
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I must have missed it, but did the Declaration of War approved by Congress to fight the Nazis have an end date on it???kalm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:11 pmSorry Mr. Roosevelt, we’d really like to continue fighting the Nazi’s but times up!SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:09 am
Still disagree. Seen enough "emergency" legislation following 9/11 to know better, and so should you. Also you're talking federal level. I am vehemently opposed to a one size fits all "emergency" China Virus legislation from DC. Fuck that. Governors can and should work with their respective state legislature to get their "emergency" regulations in place to fit their needs.
Besides, MI is a perfect example of why "emergency" edicts should be limited, and fortunately for the people of MI the courts ruled Whitmer exceeded her "emergency" bounds.
The argument here is that Executive Emergency orders issued by various Govrnors had no legislative review/approval and by law had end-dates...
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That’s like saying “you’re getting fucked in the ass, might as well relax and try and enjoy it”.clenz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:39 amIf you think China, and 40 other countries, and every genome mapping site out there don't already know everything about you you are sorely mistaken. Not that that being true means we should just offer everything up at will, but it's worth remembering as (royal) you sit there screaming about privacy and keeping China and the baddies from getting your information.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:38 pm Big reason I haven't done the genome mapping through sites like 21 and Me.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-us-b ... 186896#app
There was just a big story this weekend about it. China is known to have stolen extremely personal/identifiable/deep information on well over 80% of the US population. If you want to believe you are in that less than 20% then so be it.
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“Rape is kinda like the weather. If it's inevitable, relax and enjoy it.” Clayton Williams (R - Texas)AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:17 pmThat’s like saying “you’re getting fucked in the ass, might as well relax and try and enjoy it”.clenz wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:39 am
If you think China, and 40 other countries, and every genome mapping site out there don't already know everything about you you are sorely mistaken. Not that that being true means we should just offer everything up at will, but it's worth remembering as (royal) you sit there screaming about privacy and keeping China and the baddies from getting your information.
There was just a big story this weekend about it. China is known to have stolen extremely personal/identifiable/deep information on well over 80% of the US population. If you want to believe you are in that less than 20% then so be it.
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Fair point, Colonel. I could have formulated a way better analogy.Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:16 pmI must have missed it, but did the Declaration of War approved by Congress to fight the Nazis have an end date on it???
The argument here is that Executive Emergency orders issued by various Govrnors had no legislative review/approval and by law had end-dates...
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Shocking.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:25 pmFair point, Colonel. I could have formulated a way better analogy.Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:16 pm
I must have missed it, but did the Declaration of War approved by Congress to fight the Nazis have an end date on it???
The argument here is that Executive Emergency orders issued by various Govrnors had no legislative review/approval and by law had end-dates...
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Poor AZ-esque analogy. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:11 pmYeah...not a fan of more government and less rights. Look back on my old arguments with Ivy regarding the security state and 4th amendment.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:09 am
Still disagree. Seen enough "emergency" legislation following 9/11 to know better, and so should you. Also you're talking federal level. I am vehemently opposed to a one size fits all "emergency" China Virus legislation from DC. Fuck that. Governors can and should work with their respective state legislature to get their "emergency" regulations in place to fit their needs.
Besides, MI is a perfect example of why "emergency" edicts should be limited, and fortunately for the people of MI the courts ruled Whitmer exceeded her "emergency" bounds.
I merely brought up the stimulus as an example of what legislatures do. All executive branches have emergency powers for this reason. The argument is how much and for how long?
Sorry Mr. Roosevelt, we’d really like to continue fighting the Nazi’s but times up!
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Remember when COVID-19 denialists were saying it was nothing compared to the seasonal flu that kills like 60,000 people per year (the 60,000 per year was an over estimate)?
Then remember when there was a meme going around talking about how an estimated 100,000 died from the Hong Kong flu in the United States but we still had Woodstock (which happened during the summer when flu activity was very low)?
Remember when people were saying the COVID-19 issue would go away on November 4?
The conservative misinformation bubble is a horrible place. Way too many people are in it.
Then remember when there was a meme going around talking about how an estimated 100,000 died from the Hong Kong flu in the United States but we still had Woodstock (which happened during the summer when flu activity was very low)?
Remember when people were saying the COVID-19 issue would go away on November 4?
The conservative misinformation bubble is a horrible place. Way too many people are in it.
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Turns out it went away on 1/20.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:58 pm Remember when COVID-19 denialists were saying it was nothing compared to the seasonal flu that kills like 60,000 people per year (the 60,000 per year was an over estimate)?
Then remember when there was a meme going around talking about how an estimated 100,000 died from the Hong Kong flu in the United States but we still had Woodstock (which happened during the summer when flu activity was very low)?
Remember when people were saying the COVID-19 issue would go away on November 4?
The conservative misinformation bubble is a horrible place. Way too many people are in it.
AND it cured the flu. 43 cases in January. Fucking amazing.
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43 case where?AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:02 pmTurns out it went away on 1/20.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:58 pm Remember when COVID-19 denialists were saying it was nothing compared to the seasonal flu that kills like 60,000 people per year (the 60,000 per year was an over estimate)?
Then remember when there was a meme going around talking about how an estimated 100,000 died from the Hong Kong flu in the United States but we still had Woodstock (which happened during the summer when flu activity was very low)?
Remember when people were saying the COVID-19 issue would go away on November 4?
The conservative misinformation bubble is a horrible place. Way too many people are in it.
AND it cured the flu. 43 cases in January. Fucking amazing.
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?kalm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:11 pmYeah...not a fan of more government and less rights. Look back on my old arguments with Ivy regarding the security state and 4th amendment.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:09 am
Still disagree. Seen enough "emergency" legislation following 9/11 to know better, and so should you. Also you're talking federal level. I am vehemently opposed to a one size fits all "emergency" China Virus legislation from DC. Fuck that. Governors can and should work with their respective state legislature to get their "emergency" regulations in place to fit their needs.
Besides, MI is a perfect example of why "emergency" edicts should be limited, and fortunately for the people of MI the courts ruled Whitmer exceeded her "emergency" bounds.
I merely brought up the stimulus as an example of what legislatures do. All executive branches have emergency powers for this reason. The argument is how much and for how long?
Sorry Mr. Roosevelt, we’d really like to continue fighting the Nazi’s but times up!
I believe in states rights but those too are limited. Especially in a system with open borders and commerce.
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Forget it, he's rolling..Col Hogan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:16 pmI must have missed it, but did the Declaration of War approved by Congress to fight the Nazis have an end date on it???
The argument here is that Executive Emergency orders issued by various Govrnors had no legislative review/approval and by law had end-dates...
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CDC estimates 83 million in US have had the China Virus.
https://bgr.com/2021/02/01/covid-cases- ... -estimate/
So that would leave a morality rate of less than .6%..
https://bgr.com/2021/02/01/covid-cases- ... -estimate/
So that would leave a morality rate of less than .6%..
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