Coronavirus COVID-19

Political discussions
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 16534
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by SeattleGriz »

Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:13 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:33 pm

One guys op-ed on why he is waiting to get the vaccination applies to all? Bit of a stretch. :lol:. I would say some are a little leary of a vaccine that was created in nine months, when they are used to seeing vaccines normally take years.
Don't play games by wordsmithing. Of course one does not mean all, that was why I posted this in contrast to the other post.
If there is more context to your post, I'm not seeing it. I don't follow this thread too closely.
Everything is better with SeattleGriz
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 30940
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by Gil Dobie »

SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:47 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:13 pm

Don't play games by wordsmithing. Of course one does not mean all, that was why I posted this in contrast to the other post.
If there is more context to your post, I'm not seeing it. I don't follow this thread too closely.
BDK was talking like all the people choosing not to get the virus, were chick-littles. My post contradicted it by showing another reason.
Image
CAA Flagship
4th&29
4th&29
Posts: 38526
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:01 pm
I am a fan of: Old Dominion
A.K.A.: He/His/Him/Himself
Location: Pizza Hell

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by CAA Flagship »

Lost a great guy to COVID that was in my golfing group of friends back in Virginia on Sunday. He was a Saluki, in his late 60's, and was a long time smoker. :crybaby:
User avatar
AZGrizFan
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59959
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:40 pm
I am a fan of: Sexual Chocolate
Location: Just to the right of center

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by AZGrizFan »

Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
"Ah fuck. You are right." KYJelly, 11/6/12
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
Image
User avatar
GannonFan
Level5
Level5
Posts: 18040
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
I am a fan of: Delaware
A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by GannonFan »

AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation
User avatar
SeattleGriz
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 16534
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:41 am
I am a fan of: Montana
A.K.A.: PhxGriz

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by SeattleGriz »

GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Not to mention cold and flu season will be ending in about a month, so seasonality will help play a factor as well.
Everything is better with SeattleGriz
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59308
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by kalm »

GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Yep. Peak was projected by some in mid-late February but if these trends continue that will be a welcome advance of schedule. Caution for holiday weekend effects on the numbers and we still need to get down to the 10,000 new cases per day range but I’ll take any positive news.

Somewhat normal by the end of this year. Masks, voluntary social distancing, and high vaccination rates will speed up the process and reduce lockdowns.

Still need massive and continued stimulus especially for the unemployed and food and bar industries.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
SDHornet
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 19443
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:50 pm
I am a fan of: Sacramento State Hornets

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by SDHornet »

User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 30940
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by Gil Dobie »

AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:27 am Cases in US and worldwide appear to have peaked....let's hope it becomes a trend....
First time Minnesota has back to back days with less than 1000 new cases, since early October.
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59308
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by kalm »

SDHornet wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:55 am
What would the deaths have been without lockdowns? How do those rates stack up against other countries with more compliance or restrictions?

It’s killed 400,000 + WITH limited social distancing. How does a 13,000 increase (while significant) justify less restrictions?
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 30940
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by Gil Dobie »

SDHornet wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:55 am
Sounds like people are not getting medical attention for Covid, and dying at home.
Image
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 30940
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by Gil Dobie »

kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:03 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:55 am
What would the deaths have been without lockdowns? How do those rates stack up against other countries with more compliance or restrictions?

It’s killed 400,000 + WITH limited social distancing. How does a 13,000 increase (while significant) justify less restrictions?
I found many google searches on people with covid, dying at home. So this is actual evidence that the Covid numbers are low.
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 27898
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by BDKJMU »

SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am

No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Not to mention cold and flu season will be ending in about a month, so seasonality will help play a factor as well.
Cold and flu season hasn't started yet, going by the #s.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
..But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 27898
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am

No more major holidays, start working through winter and then into the spring, continue to pick up the vaccination numbers, and yes, hopefully this is the final drive towards all of this ending.
Yep. Peak was projected by some in mid-late February but if these trends continue that will be a welcome advance of schedule. Caution for holiday weekend effects on the numbers and we still need to get down to the 10,000 new cases per day range but I’ll take any positive news.

Somewhat normal by the end of this year. Masks, voluntary social distancing, and high vaccination rates will speed up the process and reduce lockdowns.

Still need massive and continued stimulus especially for the unemployed and food and bar industries.
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
..But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59308
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by kalm »

BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am

Yep. Peak was projected by some in mid-late February but if these trends continue that will be a welcome advance of schedule. Caution for holiday weekend effects on the numbers and we still need to get down to the 10,000 new cases per day range but I’ll take any positive news.

Somewhat normal by the end of this year. Masks, voluntary social distancing, and high vaccination rates will speed up the process and reduce lockdowns.

Still need massive and continued stimulus especially for the unemployed and food and bar industries.
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
Debt, higher taxes, and/or increased stimulus related growth.

We really don’t have much of a choice and if you use that argument now, where were you on these issues before?
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
UNI88
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 19955
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:30 am
I am a fan of: UNI
Location: the foggy, woggy banks Of the Limpopo River

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by UNI88 »

kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:48 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 am
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
Debt, higher taxes, and/or increased stimulus related growth.

We really don’t have much of a choice and if you use that argument now, where were you on these issues before?
Is that trickle down or percolate up?
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 30940
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by Gil Dobie »

BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:34 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:52 am

Not to mention cold and flu season will be ending in about a month, so seasonality will help play a factor as well.
Cold and flu season hasn't started yet, going by the #s.
....and we already have over 52,000 flu and/or Pneumonia deaths, but those could Covid as well.

Link

The data also includes deaths attributed to pneumonia or influenza. According to the CDC, deaths caused by COVID-19 might be misclassified as pneumonia or influenza deaths in the death certificates. For that reason, the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 is likely higher than the confirmed data indicates. It is also higher than the daily counts USAFacts compiles from state and local sources.
Image
User avatar
BDKJMU
Level5
Level5
Posts: 27898
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
I am a fan of: JMU
A.K.A.: BDKJMU
Location: Philly Burbs

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by BDKJMU »

kalm wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:48 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:37 am
And where are these trillions and trillions and trillions that govt keeps pumping out coming from?
Debt, higher taxes, and/or increased stimulus related growth.

We really don’t have much of a choice and if you use that argument now, where were you on these issues before?
From several relief bills, and many trillions and trillions ago.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 9#p1309249
I've been saying it every time we've had one of these relief bills. How many have we had now, and for how many trillions? I lost count.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
..But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions.
clenz
Moderator Team
Moderator Team
Posts: 21156
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by clenz »

Hi everybodyImage


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 30940
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by Gil Dobie »

Hang in there, keep the faith
Image
CAA Flagship
4th&29
4th&29
Posts: 38526
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:01 pm
I am a fan of: Old Dominion
A.K.A.: He/His/Him/Himself
Location: Pizza Hell

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by CAA Flagship »

Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:09 am
I found many google searches on people with covid, dying at home. So this is actual evidence that the Covid numbers are low.
:lol: :lol:

Sorry Gil, but that struck me as comical.
User avatar
Gil Dobie
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 30940
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm
I am a fan of: Norse Dakota State
Location: Historic Leduc Estate

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by Gil Dobie »

Hopefully Biden has something faster than warp speed, to get the vaccine circulated. Then we can open up business, sports events, bars and restaurants to full capacity, sooner rather than later.
Image
kalm
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 59308
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:36 pm
I am a fan of: Eastern
A.K.A.: Humus The Proud
Location: Northern Palouse

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by kalm »

Mrs. Kalm is now eligible to get jabbed.

:thumb:
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39223
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by 89Hen »

Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:50 am Hopefully Biden has something faster than warp speed, to get the vaccine circulated.
:lol: Yeah, it's Trump or Biden that makes that happen.
Image
User avatar
89Hen
Supporter
Supporter
Posts: 39223
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:13 pm
I am a fan of: High Horses
A.K.A.: The Almighty Arbiter

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

Post by 89Hen »

clenz wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:57 pm Hi everybody
Damn, hang tough clenzy
Image
Post Reply