And the 1/3, 10s of millions who are on the fence and do take it, if they have to start over are going to be fuck that. If I do take the vaccine, it sure as hell isn't going to be 3 shots..CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:53 pmScience can't possibly comment on a delay in the second dose because it was never trialed that way. FDA approval has strict restrictions and the real-life practice must follow the trial procedure. They do, however, know what one dose can do up to the point the second dose was given, but not after that.GannonFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:09 pm Starting to hear noise that Biden wants to eschew the science and try to get the first vaccine shot out to as many people as possible by releasing the held back supply of second shots, hoping that we'll still have enough second shots to be given in the timeframe they are supposed to be administered. The science is a little mixed right now, but most seem to be saying that missing or delaying that second shot might not be a good idea. But you know, politics.
I don't get why this would be the approach - it seems like the issue right now isn't the availability of enough doses, it's that we haven't done a good job of setting up the infrastructure to administer the doses in the first place. I don't see how making more doses available improves that, other than grabbing a headline that we're doing something and that plenty of doses are available. But again, politics I suppose.
Here's what will happen going forward, IMO, if you over-distribute and monkey with the dosing:
There will be spoiled Pfizer vaccines due to the storage requirements.
People who got the 1st dose may not have the 2nd dose available in time and will have to start over again.
There will be a shipment of Moderna that arrives for the second dose patients but they got the Pfizer vaccine on the first dose, and vice versa.
This is a logistical mountain from the start, and the solution was designed for orderly distribution and administration. Because of the private-public partnership of the system, and the number of handlers from plant to arm, it was certainly going to have some hiccups along the way. I just hope any changes at this point don't create more of a mess.
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But she's not the bestest covid governor ever.
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One year ago today, this tweet came out..It did not age well...
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Vid on small businesses taking it in the ass during the early part of the China Virus shutdowns.
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People are still calling it the "China Virus"
Good god.
Good god.
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Well with 100,000 estimated deaths over the next month, the Flu has less of a snarky ring to it these days.
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Why is China Virus bad but the UK Coronavirus Variant ok?
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Because China Coronavirus Variant doesn’t roll off the tongue (and it makes China look bad, and it’s a favorite of Dear Leader).
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The horror!
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Corona Virus vaccine announced two days after presidential election. Coincidence?
NY Governor now believes “we have to get these businesses back open!”, a 180 reversal from previous position. Coincidence?
Chicago mayor (big shutdown proponent) now believes “businesses can’t stay closed forever!”. Coincidence?
Pelosi won’t negotiate on stimulus package pre-election, but they finally agree on one within weeks of the election being finalized. Coincidence?
Newsweek releases study that shows severe lockdowns showed NO benefit (something the right has been saying since the beginning). Coincidence?
All these things happen riiiiiight after Biden is announced and certified as the winner of the election. And how does Biden reward those states/governors for crushing the US economy and ensuring his victory? His first stimulus package includes hundreds of billions of dollars for state and local governments that were ALREADY bankrupt before the virus...so OUR tax money is going to be used to bail out poorly run blue states who backed the shutdown to get Trump out of office, because that was the ONLY way they were going to defeat him. No way he gets beat if the economy is still humming along setting records.
NY Governor now believes “we have to get these businesses back open!”, a 180 reversal from previous position. Coincidence?
Chicago mayor (big shutdown proponent) now believes “businesses can’t stay closed forever!”. Coincidence?
Pelosi won’t negotiate on stimulus package pre-election, but they finally agree on one within weeks of the election being finalized. Coincidence?
Newsweek releases study that shows severe lockdowns showed NO benefit (something the right has been saying since the beginning). Coincidence?
All these things happen riiiiiight after Biden is announced and certified as the winner of the election. And how does Biden reward those states/governors for crushing the US economy and ensuring his victory? His first stimulus package includes hundreds of billions of dollars for state and local governments that were ALREADY bankrupt before the virus...so OUR tax money is going to be used to bail out poorly run blue states who backed the shutdown to get Trump out of office, because that was the ONLY way they were going to defeat him. No way he gets beat if the economy is still humming along setting records.
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Obfuscate and deflect ...
Why is it racist and insensitive to use China but not racist and insensitive to us UK in naming the variants of the virus?
Can anyone justify the double standard?
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The answer is easy. Because TRUMP called it the China Virus. period. End of reasoning.
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I didn’t obfuscate or deflect.
China Virus was initially considered bad due to concerns of racist reaction and blame. It later became bad because Trump insisted on it, his cult members followed suit, and lots of people don’t like Trump or his followers. Deservedly so or not.
Is it a double standard? Sure.
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Good ole CA leading from behind again...
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It’s ok. Biden’s going to bail their asses out again with billions of our tax dollars. A small thanks for tanking the economy so he had a chance at winning.
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No, they did it because 'science' don't you remember.
Now we have Cuomo and Lori Lightfoot talking about reopening. Wonder what changed?
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So instead of the China Virus being over after Nov 3rd, it was after Jan 6th.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:43 pmNo, they did it because 'science' don't you remember.
Now we have Cuomo and Lori Lightfoot talking about reopening. Wonder what changed?
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He left off "Now that Trump is defeated"
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Would Trump and his supporters have done anything differently if the situation were reversed?
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My daughters ex-boyfriends dad died of Covid recently. Apparently he was out and about like there was no Covid.