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This should fix all our political woes... :coffee:



Vote reparations would create possibilities to build what W.E.B. Du Bois called “abolition democracy,” or the practice of achieving a racially just society. Abolition democracy invites us to engage with abolition not as a finite goal but as a radical process of challenging injustices wherever and in whatever form they might appear. Vote reparations would empower us to replace oppressive institutions with life-affirming structures of economic, social, and political equality. And if our elected representatives did not prioritize this transformational work, we could vote them out.

Because white votes currently count more than Black ones, double-counting Black votes would restore electoral balance. Vote reparations would be a giant step toward remedying our nation’s long history of denying and devaluing Black votes. To address systemic racism, we must transform how we choose our government. Even if vote reparations aren’t instituted, Black voters will keep tirelessly dragging our states toward a more perfect union. But just imagine our country if our votes counted twice.
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Another reason I laugh when people say the right is the side of anti-democratic inclinations. Complete lunacy.
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Random writer at the Nation no one has heard of

vs

the President of the United States and a good portion of GOP Congressmen.

Not exactly a like-for-like "both sides" argument. :coffee:




This is obviously a dumb article and I doubt anyone on the board will defend it.
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Col Hogan wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:47 pm This should fix all our political woes... :coffee:



Vote reparations would create possibilities to build what W.E.B. Du Bois called “abolition democracy,” or the practice of achieving a racially just society. Abolition democracy invites us to engage with abolition not as a finite goal but as a radical process of challenging injustices wherever and in whatever form they might appear. Vote reparations would empower us to replace oppressive institutions with life-affirming structures of economic, social, and political equality. And if our elected representatives did not prioritize this transformational work, we could vote them out.

Because white votes currently count more than Black ones, double-counting Black votes would restore electoral balance. Vote reparations would be a giant step toward remedying our nation’s long history of denying and devaluing Black votes. To address systemic racism, we must transform how we choose our government. Even if vote reparations aren’t instituted, Black voters will keep tirelessly dragging our states toward a more perfect union. But just imagine our country if our votes counted twice.
So the author knows that black votes are exactly 50% of representative power as white votes? Are Hispanic 75%? Jews are 150%?
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kalm wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:14 am
Col Hogan wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:47 pm This should fix all our political woes... :coffee:




So the author knows that black votes are exactly 50% of representative power as black votes? Are Hispanic 75%? Jews are 150%?
The author is an assistant professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law...and John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct...

Now, he didn’t give us the percentage value for any group other than blacks, so your questions are pure speculation that you’ll need to ask the Professor...













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Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am
kalm wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:14 am

So the author knows that black votes are exactly 50% of representative power as black votes? Are Hispanic 75%? Jews are 150%?
The author is an assistant professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law...and John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct...
C’mon man! That would be like assuming that all successful business people have achieved their status entirely through hard work, smarts, and guts.

I truly worry about the level of JSO butthurt around here.

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kalm wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:36 am
Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am

The author is an assistant professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law...and John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct...
C’mon man! That would be like assuming that all successful business people have achieved their status entirely through hard work, smarts, and guts.

I truly worry about the level of JSO butthurt around here.

:lol:
Your sarcasm detector is on the fritz...did you not see the :lmao: below the words... :nod:
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Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:13 am
kalm wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:36 am

C’mon man! That would be like assuming that all successful business people have achieved their status entirely through hard work, smarts, and guts.

I truly worry about the level of JSO butthurt around here.

:lol:
Your sarcasm detector is on the fritz...did you not see the :lmao: below the words... :nod:
Of course I did. Why do you think I erased it?

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Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct..
On average. I, of course, have a higher IQ than most PhDs even though I don't have a graduate degree.

And Bill Gates has a higher IQ than me even though he doesn't have a degree at all.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:51 pm
Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct..
On average. I, of course, have a higher IQ than most PhDs even though I don't have a graduate degree.

And Bill Gates has a higher IQ than me even though he doesn't have a degree at all.
The steaming pile I left in the toilet this morning has a higher IQ than you, so....:coffee:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct..
On average. I, of course, have a higher IQ than most PhDs even though I don't have a graduate degree.

And Bill Gates has a higher IQ than me even though he doesn't have a degree at all.
Dude - you don’t know what “Post College” means but you’re going to judge other people’s intelligence?


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Baldy wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:51 pm On average. I, of course, have a higher IQ than most PhDs even though I don't have a graduate degree.

And Bill Gates has a higher IQ than me even though he doesn't have a degree at all.
The steaming pile I left in the toilet this morning has a higher IQ than you, so....:coffee:
Not to mention personality.


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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:51 pm
Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct..
On average. I, of course, have a higher IQ than most PhDs even though I don't have a graduate degree.

And Bill Gates has a higher IQ than me even though he doesn't have a degree at all.
Yet, you allow emotion to control your thoughts. :ohno: :ohno:
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:00 am
JohnStOnge wrote:
On average. I, of course, have a higher IQ than most PhDs even though I don't have a graduate degree.

And Bill Gates has a higher IQ than me even though he doesn't have a degree at all.
Dude - you don’t know what “Post College” means but you’re going to judge other people’s intelligence?


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What is your definition of Post College? Say somebody goes right after high school and gets an engineering degree and knocks around for 10 years then decides they want to be a teacher. So they go back and get an education degree and go to work doing what they really feel fulfilled at. They weren't finished with college until they finished with the education degree. Does what happened during the 10 years before they went back to get their education degree count as Post College?

The English meaning is pretty simple: "Post" means "after." But is it after any college experience or after all college experience?
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kalm wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:36 am
Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am

The author is an assistant professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law...and John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct...
C’mon man! That would be like assuming that all successful business people have achieved their status entirely through hard work, smarts, and guts.

I truly worry about the level of JSO butthurt around here.

:lol:
And intelligent people worry about the level of JSO stupidity around here. :coffee: :coffee:
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:27 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:00 am
Dude - you don’t know what “Post College” means but you’re going to judge other people’s intelligence?


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What is your definition of Post College? Say somebody goes right after high school and gets an engineering degree and knocks around for 10 years then decides they want to be a teacher. So they go back and get an education degree and go to work doing what they really feel fulfilled at. They weren't finished with college until they finished with the education degree. Does what happened during the 10 years before they went back to get their education degree count as Post College?

The English meaning is pretty simple: "Post" means "after." But is it after any college experience or after all college experience?
You are splitting hairs here. Post is after. After college. After college is cut and dry and if you can't figure that out for yourself...we shouldn't be allowing you to vote. You clearly have a below average intelligence.
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kalm wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:36 am
Col Hogan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:52 am

The author is an assistant professor at Washington and Lee University School of Law...and John StOnge has convinced me that people with advanced degrees have a much higher IQ than people like me with a lowly BA...so I trust him that he’s correct...
C’mon man! That would be like assuming that all successful business people have achieved their status entirely through hard work, smarts, and guts.

I truly worry about the level of JSO butthurt around here.

:lol:

JSO is far and away the Troll Supremo on this site. He can even get to the usually unflappable CID - I think its long past time that we recognize his accomplishments, you gotta be pretty good to troll this crowd :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:48 am
kalm wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:36 am

C’mon man! That would be like assuming that all successful business people have achieved their status entirely through hard work, smarts, and guts.

I truly worry about the level of JSO butthurt around here.

:lol:

JSO is far and away the Troll Supremo on this site. He can even get to the usually unflappable CID - I think its long past time that we recognize his accomplishments, you gotta be pretty good to troll this crowd :coffee:
A good troll would be able to do what he does in 2 sentences, not 10 paragraphs.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:35 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:48 am


JSO is far and away the Troll Supremo on this site. He can even get to the usually unflappable CID - I think its long past time that we recognize his accomplishments, you gotta be pretty good to troll this crowd :coffee:
A good troll would be able to do what he does in 2 sentences, not 10 paragraphs.
Obvious/intentional trolls.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:38 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:35 am

A good troll would be able to do what he does in 2 sentences, not 10 paragraphs.
Obvious/intentional trolls.
JSO’s not smart enough to troll. He actually believes the drivel he posts.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:38 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:35 am
A good troll would be able to do what he does in 2 sentences, not 10 paragraphs.
Obvious/intentional trolls.
Kind of like the posts of that NDSU guy who had the melt down. His "trolls" were just as obvious/intentional as JSO's. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:38 am

Obvious/intentional trolls.
Kind of like the posts of that NDSU guy who had the melt down. His "trolls" were just as obvious/intentional as JSO's. :coffee:
Not similar at all. That dude created a fictional world. The Golden Arm Committee, and the lair or something under the FFD.
Obvious and intentional until the cock and balls showed up.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:25 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 am
Kind of like the posts of that NDSU guy who had the melt down. His "trolls" were just as obvious/intentional as JSO's. :coffee:
Not similar at all. That dude created a fictional world. The Golden Arm Committee, and the lair or something under the FFD.
Obvious and intentional until the cock and ball showed up.
A dude that created a fictional world seems pretty similar to a guy who lives in a fictional world. Maybe JSO could rent a house in what's his name's world. :poke:
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:31 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:25 am

Not similar at all. That dude created a fictional world. The Golden Arm Committee, and the lair or something under the FFD.
Obvious and intentional until the cock and ball showed up.
A dude that created a fictional world seems pretty similar to a guy who lives in a fictional world. Maybe JSO could rent a house in what's his name's world. :poke:
JSO might be the most rational poster on this board. And I felt that way before Trump too.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:39 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:38 am

Obvious/intentional trolls.
JSO’s not smart
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