WSJ Writer Shows His Ignorance
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WSJ Writer Shows His Ignorance
I'm no fan of the Bidens, but this continuing idea that not all doctorates are equal, and so one shouldn't be addressed as "doctor" unless one has an M.D. is stupid. What, someone with a D.D.S. isn't a "doctor?" It reminds me of that bogus political comic set at a restaurant where the maitre d' asked the guest if he was a "real" doctor, or just another Ph.D. SMH....
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Re: WSJ Writer Shows His Ignorance
All education graduate degrees exist to train chair warmer administrators in primary and secondary school as well as colleges. They're the most notoriously "Mickey Mouse" programs that there are.
Also, in my experience the people who will insist on being addressed as "doctor" are also probably the least erudite people among those with doctoral-level degrees.
Also, in my experience the people who will insist on being addressed as "doctor" are also probably the least erudite people among those with doctoral-level degrees.
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I'll never forget something an adjunct prof of mine (who was a great friend of mine outside of the classroom as life went on before his passing) saidPwns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:29 pm All education graduate degrees exist to train chair warmer administrators in primary and secondary school as well as colleges. They're the most notoriously "Mickey Mouse" programs that there are.
Also, in my experience the people who will insist on being addressed as "doctor" are also probably the least erudite people among those with doctoral-level degrees.
"All the other professors around here demand to go by "Dr." because of their degree. Thus I posted notice that from now on I demand to go by my degree title and they have to call me "Master"
He was getting at exactly where you are and are exactly why I only point out to people my master's in such context
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That's a broad brush Pwns. There are bad teachers and administrators but there are a lot of good ones too.Pwns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:29 pm All education graduate degrees exist to train chair warmer administrators in primary and secondary school as well as colleges. They're the most notoriously "Mickey Mouse" programs that there are.
Also, in my experience the people who will insist on being addressed as "doctor" are also probably the least erudite people among those with doctoral-level degrees.
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“Those that can’t, teach” is one of the most annoying conk memes out there.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:07 amThat's a broad brush Pwns. There are bad teachers and administrators but there are a lot of good ones too.Pwns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:29 pm All education graduate degrees exist to train chair warmer administrators in primary and secondary school as well as colleges. They're the most notoriously "Mickey Mouse" programs that there are.
Also, in my experience the people who will insist on being addressed as "doctor" are also probably the least erudite people among those with doctoral-level degrees.
Those that can, do.
Those that can't do, teach.
Those that can't teach, administrate.
Those that can't even administrate complain about administrators.
It’s right up there with the sophistry of using “erudite” in a conversation denouncing intellectual elitism.
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FTR - “Those that can’t, teach” predates memes.
It's an annoying and untrue cliche. That's why I added the last line - Those that can't even administrate complain about administrators.
Teachers along with nurses, police and firefighters are some of the most important and valuable members of our society.
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UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:07 amFTR - “Those that can’t, teach” predates memes.
It's an annoying and untrue cliche. That's why I added the last line - Those that can't even administrate complain about administrators.
Teachers along with nurses, police and firefighters are some of the most important and valuable members of our society.
It probably was, but the term “meme” was coined long before the internet. I was using it as a thought virus description rather than an internet image.
Anyhoo, we agree. Just piling on.
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They weren't talking about golf Sissy.
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I wasn’t talking about golf either...your own brain let you wander to that conclusion...along with your thoughts of my boys (BOYS) producing testicle.
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You should be ashamed of yourself! Adding more privileged toxic masculinity to the population of the planet.
To SuperHorny's point, this isn't just limited to pHD's. There are plenty of arrogant SOBs who insist on honorifics and other distinctions because they're too shallow and insecure to admit that we're all people with value and an opinion. Rep. Katie Porter asking Mnuchin if he was an attorney comes to mind. She probably feels qualified to speak about finance but thinks that only attorneys can talk about legal matters.
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I am going to resist this well crafted troll.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:14 pmYou should be ashamed of yourself! Adding more privileged toxic masculinity to the population of the planet.
To SuperHorny's point, this isn't just limited to pHD's. There are plenty of arrogant SOBs who insist on honorifics and other distinctions because they're too shallow and insecure to admit that we're all people with value and an opinion. Rep. Katie Porter asking Mnuchin if he was an attorney comes to mind. She probably feels qualified to speak about finance but thinks that only attorneys can talk about legal matters.
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Maybe Joe will make Dr. Jill the Surgeon General? I hear she is one hell of a Doctor.
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I heard that she is referred to as "Dr" more often than Ben Carson by the media.
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I listened to that show on WMAL yesterday too.
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There are certainly good teachers, and maybe even good administrators. But they didn't get good by taking courses in Multicultural Rain Forest Pedagogy Theory in some teacher education program.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:07 amThat's a broad brush Pwns. There are bad teachers and administrators but there are a lot of good ones too.Pwns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:29 pm All education graduate degrees exist to train chair warmer administrators in primary and secondary school as well as colleges. They're the most notoriously "Mickey Mouse" programs that there are.
Also, in my experience the people who will insist on being addressed as "doctor" are also probably the least erudite people among those with doctoral-level degrees.
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Her position paper is available on the web if anyone cares to see her work.
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Trut so pure....Pwns wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:29 pm All education graduate degrees exist to train chair warmer administrators in primary and secondary school as well as colleges. They're the most notoriously "Mickey Mouse" programs that there are.
Also, in my experience the people who will insist on being addressed as "doctor" are also probably the least erudite people among those with doctoral-level degrees.
Richard Feynman delivers a blistering takedown on this subject in his book "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman"
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Same crowd that thinks the answer to government inefficiency is putting a businessman in charge.
Self-employed. Educated at the School of Hard Knocks.
You know the type - workplace rejects with below-average IQ...
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Thank you Imhotep. So tell us great sage, what is the answer to government inefficiency if it isn't putting a businessman or a lifelong a politician in charge?
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I'm not aware of Jill Biden having insisted upon being addressed as "doctor." I haven't seen anything about her suggesting arrogance. She seems to be a pretty nice, down to earth person.
I have dealt with a lot of PhDs over my lifetime and I have NEVER met one that came across as somebody who would care about whether you call them "doctor" or not. Never seen one correct anybody for saying "Mr" or "Ms."
However, when I write correspondences or draft correspondences for superiors, I always want to know whether the person we are writing to has a doctorate. I want to know if the letter should say "Dear Mr. or Ms" or should say "Dear Dr." And if the person has a PhD I'm going to use "Dear Dr." It's just being accurate.
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Jill doesn't have a PhD. She has an Ed.D.
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Jill Biden has a doctorate and has earned that right to be referred to as Doctor Biden.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:45 amI'm not aware of Jill Biden having insisted upon being addressed as "doctor." I haven't seen anything about her suggesting arrogance. She seems to be a pretty nice, down to earth person.
I have dealt with a lot of PhDs over my lifetime and I have NEVER met one that came across as somebody who would care about whether you call them "doctor" or not. Never seen one correct anybody for saying "Mr" or "Ms."
However, when I write correspondences or draft correspondences for superiors, I always want to know whether the person we are writing to has a doctorate. I want to know if the letter should say "Dear Mr. or Ms" or should say "Dear Dr." And if the person has a PhD I'm going to use "Dear Dr." It's just being accurate.
I have a masters, please refer to me as Master UNI88 from this point forward.
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Ok. I would still start a letter to her with "Dear Dr. Biden."
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
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I’d start it with “Dear Crazy Enabling Bitch”....JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:51 pmOk. I would still start a letter to her with "Dear Dr. Biden."
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