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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:16 pm
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Do you understand the concept of how commercial mortgages work AT ALL? He owes $100 million on a building valued at $450 million. That is hardly being "in debt". He HAS debt, but he's not IN debt. There's a huge difference that simpletons don't understand.
We'll see how it works out but my bet is that he is indeed "in debt" overall. We'll see how it works out when all the information comes out.
The 2nd NYT piece has him almost broke before the apprentice lifeboat came floating up. Property and name brand rich I guess...
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Not if he was at some point in time..When was the claim made? Did he say “am” or “was”?
I pretty sure Trump says he is. He would NEVER admit failure or that he's lost all of it. You should know that. Isn't "Never admitting failure" in the MAGA Orientation guide you got?
Well he's got $350 million in net worth from ONE building. He owns 30% of two other towers (one in SF, one in NY), he owns 15 golf courses, Mar Lago, etc., etc.,....I'm guessing his Real Estate values alone (minus debt on those properties) make him a billionaire.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:42 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:37 am

I pretty sure Trump says he is. He would NEVER admit failure or that he's lost all of it. You should know that. Isn't "Never admitting failure" in the MAGA Orientation guide you got?
Well he's got $350 million in net worth from ONE building. He owns 30% of two other towers (one in SF, one in NY), he owns 15 golf courses, Mar Lago, etc., etc.,....I'm guessing his Real Estate values alone (minus debt on those properties) make him a billionaire.
If he's losing money as bad as his taxes suggest - who knows.
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Re: The Official Trump is a YUGE Twat Thread

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:42 am Well he's got $350 million in net worth from ONE building. He owns 30% of two other towers (one in SF, one in NY), he owns 15 golf courses, Mar Lago, etc., etc.,....I'm guessing his Real Estate values alone (minus debt on those properties) make him a billionaire.
He has mortgages on most, if not all, of those properties.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:38 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:42 am Well he's got $350 million in net worth from ONE building. He owns 30% of two other towers (one in SF, one in NY), he owns 15 golf courses, Mar Lago, etc., etc.,....I'm guessing his Real Estate values alone (minus debt on those properties) make him a billionaire.
He has mortgages on most, if not all, of those properties.
Yes, that's why I said "minus debt on those properties". Guaranteed 30-50% equity in every single property he owns.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:53 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:42 am

Well he's got $350 million in net worth from ONE building. He owns 30% of two other towers (one in SF, one in NY), he owns 15 golf courses, Mar Lago, etc., etc.,....I'm guessing his Real Estate values alone (minus debt on those properties) make him a billionaire.
If he's losing money as bad as his taxes suggest - who knows.
That has nothing to do with his personal net worth. :ohno: :ohno:
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:35 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:49 pm
Rehashing 4 years ago I see. Will you be posting accusations of Trump paying off Stormy Daniel's and colluding with Russia? :lol:
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Oh, Shut the fuck up. You're bringing up 2016 in the Debate thread. You're bringing up Biden's son working in the Ukraine.

Just shut up.
No you shut up.. :roll:

Yeah I'm brining up 2016, because that's relevant for comparison.
-According to the MSM in 2016 Clinton won the debates. According to the MSM, Biden won the 1st debate.
-Clinton Was way ahead in the national polls in early Oct 2016. Bien is ahead heading into early Oct (but not as far ahead).
-Clinton & the left hammered Trump on not releasing his taxes. Biden & the left are hammering Trump on not releasing his taxes.
-Clinton lost the election.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:47 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:35 am :suspicious:

Oh, Shut the fuck up. You're bringing up 2016 in the Debate thread. You're bringing up Biden's son working in the Ukraine.

Just shut up.
No you shut up.. :roll:

Yeah I'm brining up 2016, because that's relevant for comparison.
-According to the MSM in 2016 Clinton won the debates. According to the MSM, Biden won the 1st debate.
-Clinton Was way ahead in the national polls in early Oct 2016. Bien is ahead heading into early Oct (but not as far ahead).
-Clinton & the left hammered Trump on not releasing his taxes. Biden & the left are hammering Trump on not releasing his taxes.
-Clinton lost the election.
Stop rehashing the past.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:58 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:47 am
No you shut up.. :roll:

Yeah I'm brining up 2016, because that's relevant for comparison.
-According to the MSM in 2016 Clinton won the debates. According to the MSM, Biden won the 1st debate.
-Clinton Was way ahead in the national polls in early Oct 2016. Bien is ahead heading into early Oct (but not as far ahead).
-Clinton & the left hammered Trump on not releasing his taxes. Biden & the left are hammering Trump on not releasing his taxes.
-Clinton lost the election.
Stop rehashing the past.
Stop ignoring relevant historical comparisons.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:11 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:58 pm
Stop rehashing the past.
Stop ignoring relevant historical comparisons.
No. You can't pick and chose what history can and can't be discussed. Besides, the election of 2016 is over. We have a new election, 4 years and new problems occur today that didn't occur in 2016 and there's a different Democrat running. Please tell me how polling on Hillary Clinton in 2016 is relevant in 2020 when she isn't running?

Let's stick to the present and the facts (which I know is impossible for you).
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:11 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:58 pm
Stop rehashing the past.
Stop ignoring relevant historical comparisons.
Did you delete a post where you were complaining about 2016 being rehashed?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:21 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:11 pm
Stop ignoring relevant historical comparisons.
Did you delete a post where you were complaining about 2016 being rehashed?
No. I was making fun of the left bringing up Trumps taxes just like 2016. The polls, debate, Trumps taxes, its like de ja vu. Like I said, maybe they should bring up Stormy Daniels and Russia while they're at it.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:29 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:21 pm

Did you delete a post where you were complaining about 2016 being rehashed?
No. I was making fun of the left bringing up Trumps taxes just like 2016. The polls, debate, Trumps taxes, its like de ja vu. Like I said, maybe they should bring up Stormy Daniels and Russia while they're at it.
It's all good. Thanks to the power of the free press, as enshrined in the 1st Amendment, we now have Trump's taxes.

They're pretty much as expected: doesn't pay taxes, uses businesses as slush funds, owes hundreds of millions to foreign interests.

He'll be in prison soon.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:17 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:11 pm
Stop ignoring relevant historical comparisons.
No. You can't pick and chose what history can and can't be discussed. Besides, the election of 2016 is over. We have a new election, 4 years and new problems occur today that didn't occur in 2016 and there's a different Democrat running.
You can't pick and choose what history can and can't be discussed. If I want to make comparisons with 2016, I will make them. You're obviously bothered by them, so I'll make some more. :nod:
Please tell me how polling on Hillary Clinton in 2016 is relevant in 2020 when she isn't running?
Because its playing out like 2016 in a lot of ways. Apparently that's something too difficult to grasp. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:29 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:21 pm
Did you delete a post where you were complaining about 2016 being rehashed?
No. I was making fun of the left bringing up Trumps taxes just like 2016. The polls, debate, Trumps taxes, its like de ja vu. Like I said, maybe they should bring up Stormy Daniels and Russia while they're at it.
To paraphrase "you can't pick and choose what history can and can't be discussed. If someone wants to make comparisons with 2016, they should make them."
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:09 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:29 pm
No. I was making fun of the left bringing up Trumps taxes just like 2016. The polls, debate, Trumps taxes, its like de ja vu. Like I said, maybe they should bring up Stormy Daniels and Russia while they're at it.
To paraphrase "you can't pick and choose what history can and can't be discussed. If someone wants to make comparisons with 2016, they should make them."
Agreed. And if someone wants to make fun of someone making the same accusations as in 2016, they should make them.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:41 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:53 am
If he's losing money as bad as his taxes suggest - who knows.
That has nothing to do with his personal net worth. :ohno: :ohno:
Yeah the tax stories were a big "meh" for me. If the foreign entities had leverage on him as the Leftists claim, we would have seen a completely difference foreign policy for the last 4 years.

Regarding the amount he paid in taxes, another "meh". If he something illegal and he should have been paying more, then string him up. I'm not tax code person but I'm sure he has an army of accountants exploiting every possible loophole there is. This is more of a "hate the game, not the player" issue for me.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:09 pm
To paraphrase "you can't pick and choose what history can and can't be discussed. If someone wants to make comparisons with 2016, they should make them."
Agreed. And if someone wants to make fun of someone making the same accusations as in 2016, they should make them.
What if someone wants to make fun of someone else for being a snowflake and getting defensive about things being brought up from 2016 and then the sensitive little snowflake turns around and brings other things up from 2016.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:23 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:22 pm
Agreed. And if someone wants to make fun of someone making the same accusations as in 2016, they should make them.
What if someone wants to make fun of someone else for being a snowflake and getting defensive about things being brought up from 2016 and then the sensitive little snowflake turns around and brings other things up from 2016.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:23 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:22 pm
Agreed. And if someone wants to make fun of someone making the same accusations as in 2016, they should make them.
What if someone wants to make fun of someone else for being a snowflake and getting defensive about things being brought up from 2016 and then the sensitive little snowflake turns around and brings other things up from 2016.
Fine. Under your scenario, I was the 1st person, not the 2nd person snowflake.
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Unless Trump is doing something illegal the problem is the tax code, not his using it.

Uncle Joe had 47 years to help make the tax code what it is.

I’d rather blame those who made the code unjust not those who follow the law of the land.

I’d hope that someone would fix it, but am not optimistic.


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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:37 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:17 pm

No. You can't pick and chose what history can and can't be discussed. Besides, the election of 2016 is over. We have a new election, 4 years and new problems occur today that didn't occur in 2016 and there's a different Democrat running.
You can't pick and choose what history can and can't be discussed. If I want to make comparisons with 2016, I will make them. You're obviously bothered by them, so I'll make some more. :nod:
Please tell me how polling on Hillary Clinton in 2016 is relevant in 2020 when she isn't running?
Because its playing out like 2016 in a lot of ways. Apparently that's something too difficult to grasp. :lol:
You, of all people, have no room to suggest something is too difficult to grasp.

You follow Trump and believe that his shit doesn't stink. Even Trip can admit problems with the Left. You're so far right and such a lemming that it's beyond your capabilities to be objective and have an original thought.

It's sad really - we used to make fun of the liberals for falling victim to group think. Now it's the Republicans. :ohno:
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:31 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:23 pm

What if someone wants to make fun of someone else for being a snowflake and getting defensive about things being brought up from 2016 and then the sensitive little snowflake turns around and brings other things up from 2016.
Fine. Under your scenario, I was the 1st person, not the 2nd person snowflake.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:31 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:23 pm
What if someone wants to make fun of someone else for being a snowflake and getting defensive about things being brought up from 2016 and then the sensitive little snowflake turns around and brings other things up from 2016.
Fine. Under your scenario, I was the 1st person, not the 2nd person snowflake.
Careful, you're starting to melt. :D
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Why don’t you two just get a room and get it over with.
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