Why? There are more checks and balances with the release of nuclear weapons than you can possibly imagine. Him going rogue and deciding to let off a few (and being able to) is not even worth considering. The only thing he can do is order a release, and then it has to be approved through multiple layers afterwards.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:13 pmI'm more worried about Pence having the nuclear football than I am Trump and Trump's unpredictability and instability scare me.Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:58 am
I am not that worried about him, true believer or not. The items that he would like to push are pretty well protected by existing court precedents and he is not that likely to raise taxes or expand the welfare state.
Harris on the other hand is much more likely to push for regulations and taxes that will directly impact my hobbies and wallet.
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93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:46 pmUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:24 am
Pence scares me. He's worse than Ted Cruz. He comes across as a true believer. A religious zealot who would be fine with starting armageddon because it would bring about judgement day where he and his loved ones ascend into heaven while sinners descend into hell.
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You're right but I have an extreme dislike for sanctimonious religious zealots be they Christian, Muslim or something else.Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:47 pmWhy? There are more checks and balances with the release of nuclear weapons than you can possibly imagine. Him going rogue and deciding to let off a few (and being able to) is not even worth considering. The only thing he can do is order a release, and then it has to be approved through multiple layers afterwards.
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Fair enough and valid.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:52 pmYou're right but I have an extreme dislike for sanctimonious religious zealots be they Christian, Muslim or something else.Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:47 pm
Why? There are more checks and balances with the release of nuclear weapons than you can possibly imagine. Him going rogue and deciding to let off a few (and being able to) is not even worth considering. The only thing he can do is order a release, and then it has to be approved through multiple layers afterwards.
I have an extreme dislike for those on the extreme. Which might be a conundrum and I probably should spend some time contemplating that over a beer or two.
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Well, they're doing their best to prove that. Who would've imagined in the time of the BLM protests and the End Racism movements and Defund the Police that the Democrats would actually roll out for their Presidential candidate an almost 80 year old white guy who put his kids in a white private school in opposition to desegregated busing that would've had his kids go to a much more diverse school and is also the same guy who, even when he still had all of his mental faculties, authored the crime bill in the 90's that was primarily responsible for incarcerating an entire generation of Black youths. And then on top of that the party picks a VP candidate who, as the top cop in her state, implemented a lot of what was in that crime bill, including sending to jail a host of Black youths for simple possession of marijuana, even while she went home and smoked some weed herself. And this is the ticket that will get 90% of the Black vote.
With Trump as President we already knew we were living in crazy times, but they just get crazier and crazier. I'm still hoping that the clouds break and we have some sanity when it comes around to 2024, but that's probably wishful thinking.
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So when are we going to talk about the POTUS intentionally sabotaging our own mailing system to improve his chances of re-election? Who needs Russian meddling when he can interfere with the election process himself.
House should vote on impeachment.
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Why don’t you go meddle in an election in your ancestral homeland of Lebanon? They could use your help.
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Intentionally sabotaging the USPS to improve his chances of reelection is despicable and I wouldn't put it past Trump.
On the flip side, while the USPS does perform an important service it is inefficient. How much could they save if they went to every other day delivery? Half a zip code gets mail on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and the other half gets it on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. We don't need every day mail delivery.
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+2. I pick up my mail about every 8-10 days. I get maybe 1-2 pieces of useful info and the rest never makes it into the house.
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Proposals to end Saturday delivery and close inefficient small post offices have been shot down for years. “But I needs muh Bugtussle, SC post office!”UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:55 pmIntentionally sabotaging the USPS to improve his chances of reelection is despicable and I wouldn't put it past Trump.
On the flip side, while the USPS does perform an important service it is inefficient. How much could they save if they went to every other day delivery? Half a zip code gets mail on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and the other half gets it on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. We don't need every day mail delivery.
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We have a post office in the town I grew up in. Population of 90.Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:09 pmProposals to end Saturday delivery and close inefficient small post offices have been shot down for years. “But I needs muh Bugtussle, SC post office!”UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:55 pm
Intentionally sabotaging the USPS to improve his chances of reelection is despicable and I wouldn't put it past Trump.
On the flip side, while the USPS does perform an important service it is inefficient. How much could they save if they went to every other day delivery? Half a zip code gets mail on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and the other half gets it on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. We don't need every day mail delivery.
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He admitted it.
https://apnews.com/14a2ceda724623604cc8d8e5ab9890edPresident Donald Trump frankly acknowledged Thursday that he’s starving the U.S. Postal Service of money in order to make it harder to process an expected surge of mail-in ballots, which he worries could cost him the election.
In an interview on Fox Business Network, Trump explicitly noted two funding provisions that Democrats are seeking in a relief package that has stalled on Capitol Hill. Without the additional money, he said, the Postal Service won’t have the resources to handle a flood of ballots from voters who are seeking to avoid polling places during the coronavirus pandemic.
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You can't have a mail-in voting system if more than one half of one the major parties don't accept it. There's MUST be an overwhelming, bi-partisan consensus for this to work.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
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Isn't the opposite also true with Trump gutting the USPS?JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 pm You can't have a mail-in voting system if more than one half of one the major parties don't accept it. There's MUST be an overwhelming, bi-partisan consensus for this to work.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
If COVID19 makes voting in-person difficult and we can't use mail-in voting, why not expand the timeframe for voting? There should be a way to overcome physical distancing restrictions and still allow people to vote. The problem is that both sides are stuck on stupid and want a solution most likely to benefit them.
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Except that it’s been done for years in WA and OR with nary a complaint.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 pm You can't have a mail-in voting system if more than one half of one the major parties don't accept it. There's MUST be an overwhelming, bi-partisan consensus for this to work.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
These are extraordinary times and safe/verifiable voting is achievable if we want to do it.
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Everyone I've talked to (conservatives and liberals) in Oregon love it.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:49 pmExcept that it’s been done for years in WA and OR with nary a complaint.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 pm You can't have a mail-in voting system if more than one half of one the major parties don't accept it. There's MUST be an overwhelming, bi-partisan consensus for this to work.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
These are extraordinary times and safe/verifiable voting is achievable if we want to do it.
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Why not just make absentee voting universal?∞∞∞ wrote:So when are we going to talk about the POTUS intentionally sabotaging our own mailing system to improve his chances of re-election? Who needs Russian meddling when he can interfere with the election process himself.
House should vote on impeachment.
Americans have been voting by absentee ballot forever.. the system is already in place
Plus, it favors the DNC because they are experts at díqualifying absentee ballots and have been doing it for years (see FL 2000).. since most absentees came from military deployed... those people that “everybody” supports
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Which is why this is the wrong time to allow something different.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:47 pmIsn't the opposite also true with Trump gutting the USPS?JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 pm You can't have a mail-in voting system if more than one half of one the major parties don't accept it. There's MUST be an overwhelming, bi-partisan consensus for this to work.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
If COVID19 makes voting in-person difficult and we can't use mail-in voting, why not expand the timeframe for voting? There should be a way to overcome physical distancing restrictions and still allow people to vote. The problem is that both sides are stuck on stupid and want a solution most likely to benefit them.
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When a wide consensus reaches the point where you are, then we can successfully do this.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:49 pmExcept that it’s been done for years in WA and OR with nary a complaint.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 pm You can't have a mail-in voting system if more than one half of one the major parties don't accept it. There's MUST be an overwhelming, bi-partisan consensus for this to work.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
These are extraordinary times and safe/verifiable voting is achievable if we want to do it.
That time is not now.
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Why during the time of COVID19 and physical distancing should in-person voting be limited to a single day? That too is asking for questionable results. Sticking to what we've always done is selfish and stupid.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:42 pmWhich is why this is the wrong time to allow something different.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:47 pm
Isn't the opposite also true with Trump gutting the USPS?
If COVID19 makes voting in-person difficult and we can't use mail-in voting, why not expand the timeframe for voting? There should be a way to overcome physical distancing restrictions and still allow people to vote. The problem is that both sides are stuck on stupid and want a solution most likely to benefit them.
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Why spend fiddy cents to mail a letter when Fedex could do it for $23.00?UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:55 pmIntentionally sabotaging the USPS to improve his chances of reelection is despicable and I wouldn't put it past Trump.
On the flip side, while the USPS does perform an important service it is inefficient. How much could they save if they went to every other day delivery? Half a zip code gets mail on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and the other half gets it on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. We don't need every day mail delivery.
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There's obviously not going to be a national mail-in voting system anytime soon, certainly not by November.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:34 pm You can't have a mail-in voting system if more than one half of one the major parties don't accept it. There's MUST be an overwhelming, bi-partisan consensus for this to work.
It's amazing how myopic we've become. The coming shit-show might be the stiffest test this nation will face in over 150 years.
And the Democrats are giving Trump, should he lose, a built-in reason to reject the election results.
This is the wrong time in out history to try something so dramatically different than what he have done before.
The Constitution leaves it to the states to administer the elections. If individual states want to do mail-in, they can do it, as some have done in the past. It's not something dramatically different than what we've done in the past.
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