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Skjellyfetti wrote:Dude, Cid has thought Mueller is just doing a song and dance to appease Democrats for almost a year now. He doesn't think any of the investigations are legitimate. He doesn't think any investigation whatsoever is legitimate.
Well, if what you say is correct that's fine. I will continue to consider the Mueller investigation to be credible and as such to be the only credible investigation going on right now.

What's going on with the Republican-controlled Congress is absolutely shameful.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Dude, Cid has thought Mueller is just doing a song and dance to appease Democrats for almost a year now. He doesn't think any of the investigations are legitimate. He doesn't think any investigation whatsoever is legitimate.
Well, if what you say is correct that's fine. I will continue to consider the Mueller investigation to be credible and as such to be the only credible investigation going on right now.

What's going on with the Republican-controlled Congress is absolutely shameful.
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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, if what you say is correct that's fine. I will continue to consider the Mueller investigation to be credible and as such to be the only credible investigation going on right now.

What's going on with the Republican-controlled Congress is absolutely shameful.
Ooh. Dutch-door action between Analjelly and St. Thonge. The liberal establishment is saved! :clap:
Do you honestly think any of the Congressional investigations into Russian involvement in the 2016 US election are credible? Do you think the Mueller investigation is credible? Be honest.
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Ivytalk wrote: Ooh. Dutch-door action between Analjelly and St. Thonge. The liberal establishment is saved! :clap:
Do you honestly think any of the Congressional investigations into Russian involvement in the 2016 US election are credible? Do you think the Mueller investigation is credible? Be honest.
Do you include your Donk icon Adam Schitt in that mixture? Be honest.
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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Well, if what you say is correct that's fine. I will continue to consider the Mueller investigation to be credible and as such to be the only credible investigation going on right now.

What's going on with the Republican-controlled Congress is absolutely shameful.
Ooh. Dutch-door action between Analjelly and St. Thonge. The liberal establishment is saved! :clap:
No kidding.

I figured I'd let them jerk each other off a little longer before reminding them that I've said many times that the Mueller investigation is the only one that matters.

Whatever tax evasion and money laundering he comes up with will certainly be legit

Mueller is a professional investigator. He knows as well as anyone that you don't have investigations in search of a crime. Jelly and JSO think otherwise.


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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Do you honestly think any of the Congressional investigations into Russian involvement in the 2016 US election are credible? Do you think the Mueller investigation is credible? Be honest.
Do you include your Donk icon Adam Schitt in that mixture? Be honest.
As I've said, I don't think any of the Congressional investigations are credible. They are partisan.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Do you include your Donk icon Adam Schitt in that mixture? Be honest.
As I've said, I don't think any of the Congressional investigations are credible. They are partisan.
As CID says, Mueller is the 500 pound gorilla in the room. And he’s getting close to the Trump Org, so His Royal Orangeness is starting to shyt bricks.
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CID1990 wrote: I told you Mueller’s making a show- you obviously ignored that.

When this thing fizzles in a few months, I wonder what you’re going to focus on for your win?
It's been more than a few months. Ain't no fizzle.
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definitely a dry hole.
The outreach by the CEO of the firm, which is partly owned by a major Trump donor and has close ties to a Trump adviser, came as Mr. Trump was publicly cheering the leaks of his Democratic rival’s emails and some supporters were seeking to unearth further messages.

In an email sent in late July 2016 and recently reviewed by the person, Cambridge Analytica CEO Alexander Nix told other employees at the firm and Rebekah Mercer, a top Republican donor, that he had recently reached out to Mr. Assange to offer help better indexing the messages WikiLeaks was releasing to make them more easily searchable. Those emails included a trove of messages stolen from Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta’s account and from the Democratic National Committee.

Mr. Nix’s email followed the Republican National Convention in July 2016, after which WikiLeaks began releasing its collection of Clinton-related emails. By Election Day, the site had released more than 50,000 emails stolen from Mr. Podesta and the DNC.

During this period, Mr. Trump praised WikiLeaks for releasing Clinton-related emails, and also sought the release of 33,000 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s State Department tenure that she had deemed personal and said she had deleted.

"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said in a late-July 2016 press conference. He later said he was joking.

...The Trump campaign began paying the company the following month, in July 2016, and ultimately paid it more than $5 million, much of which was for a TV ad buy that September. The Trump campaign’s first payment to the firm was July 29, 2016, the last day of the Democratic convention.

Cambridge Analytica offers analysis related to the personalities and values of voters. The firm is partly owned by billionaire Robert Mercer, Rebekah Mercer’s father, whose family began backing Mr. Trump in the election around the same time the Trump campaign hired the company.

The Mercers donated about $2 million to groups backing Mr. Trump’s campaign, according to campaign finance records. They were also instrumental in Mr. Trump’s third, and final, major campaign shake-up, when he installed Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway—who are both close to the Mercers—to lead the effort.

Mr. Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, sat on the board of Cambridge Analytica before entering the administration.

Mr. Nix’s outreach to Mr. Assange didn’t reference the 33,000 emails that Mrs. Clinton said were deleted from the private server she used as secretary of state, according to the person familiar with the exchange. But others close to the campaign considered or were actively searching for them.

Ms. Mercer and a person close to her had a brief conversation regarding Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails in June 2016, a month after Mr. Cruz had dropped out of the race, the person said. The person said they discussed whether it would make sense to try to access and release those emails, but ultimately decided that looking for them would create “major legal liabilities” and would be a “terrible idea.”

That conversation took place before WikiLeaks started publishing the separate trove of Clinton-related emails in July 2016, and before the Mercers had officially begun supporting Mr. Trump’s campaign, the person said. A representative for the Mercers didn’t return a request for comment.

The Wall Street Journal previously reported that longtime Republican operative Peter W. Smith in 2016 mounted a campaign to obtain the same 33,000 emails, which he believed were stolen from Mrs. Clinton’s private server, likely by Russian hackers.

Mr. Smith told the Journal earlier this year that after vetting batches of emails offered to him by hacker groups last fall, he couldn’t be sure enough of their authenticity to leak them himself. He said he advised the hackers to provide them to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has never published those emails or claimed to have them. Mr. Smith died in mid-May at age 81.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:definitely a dry hole.
The outreach by the CEO of the firm, which is partly owned by a major Trump donor and has close ties to a Trump adviser, came as Mr. Trump was publicly cheering the leaks of his Democratic rival’s emails and some supporters were seeking to unearth further messages.

In an email sent in late July 2016 and recently reviewed by the person, Cambridge Analytica CEO Alexander Nix told other employees at the firm and Rebekah Mercer, a top Republican donor, that he had recently reached out to Mr. Assange to offer help better indexing the messages WikiLeaks was releasing to make them more easily searchable. Those emails included a trove of messages stolen from Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta’s account and from the Democratic National Committee.

Mr. Nix’s email followed the Republican National Convention in July 2016, after which WikiLeaks began releasing its collection of Clinton-related emails. By Election Day, the site had released more than 50,000 emails stolen from Mr. Podesta and the DNC.

During this period, Mr. Trump praised WikiLeaks for releasing Clinton-related emails, and also sought the release of 33,000 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s State Department tenure that she had deemed personal and said she had deleted.

"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said in a late-July 2016 press conference. He later said he was joking.

...The Trump campaign began paying the company the following month, in July 2016, and ultimately paid it more than $5 million, much of which was for a TV ad buy that September. The Trump campaign’s first payment to the firm was July 29, 2016, the last day of the Democratic convention.

Cambridge Analytica offers analysis related to the personalities and values of voters. The firm is partly owned by billionaire Robert Mercer, Rebekah Mercer’s father, whose family began backing Mr. Trump in the election around the same time the Trump campaign hired the company.

The Mercers donated about $2 million to groups backing Mr. Trump’s campaign, according to campaign finance records. They were also instrumental in Mr. Trump’s third, and final, major campaign shake-up, when he installed Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway—who are both close to the Mercers—to lead the effort.

Mr. Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, sat on the board of Cambridge Analytica before entering the administration.

Mr. Nix’s outreach to Mr. Assange didn’t reference the 33,000 emails that Mrs. Clinton said were deleted from the private server she used as secretary of state, according to the person familiar with the exchange. But others close to the campaign considered or were actively searching for them.

Ms. Mercer and a person close to her had a brief conversation regarding Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails in June 2016, a month after Mr. Cruz had dropped out of the race, the person said. The person said they discussed whether it would make sense to try to access and release those emails, but ultimately decided that looking for them would create “major legal liabilities” and would be a “terrible idea.”

That conversation took place before WikiLeaks started publishing the separate trove of Clinton-related emails in July 2016, and before the Mercers had officially begun supporting Mr. Trump’s campaign, the person said. A representative for the Mercers didn’t return a request for comment.

The Wall Street Journal previously reported that longtime Republican operative Peter W. Smith in 2016 mounted a campaign to obtain the same 33,000 emails, which he believed were stolen from Mrs. Clinton’s private server, likely by Russian hackers.

Mr. Smith told the Journal earlier this year that after vetting batches of emails offered to him by hacker groups last fall, he couldn’t be sure enough of their authenticity to leak them himself. He said he advised the hackers to provide them to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has never published those emails or claimed to have them. Mr. Smith died in mid-May at age 81.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wikileaks- ... 1508961298
So Wikileaks was above working with CA but not Flynn and Bannon?

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Wait, so this data group came forward with info and services well into the Trump campaign? Hell even the article says this stuff happened before they were getting paid by Trump. Not sure what the news here is. :?

I'm going with Cid on this being a dry hole. Stick with Mueller looking into shady money deals.
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dbackjon wrote:
SDHornet wrote: You mean that memo that indicated the feds wouldn't have bugged Trump Tower had it not been for a dossier written by, bought and paid for by hillbots? :? :lol:

Looking forward to more hillbot exposure in Horowitz' IG report. :nod:

You mean the memo that proved, much to Comrade Nunes dismay, that the probe started BEFORE that...
No shit, they were following Carter Page because he was an idiot going around Russia asking for money, legitimate warrant there....the he gets the investigation team into Trump Tower when he is brought on...then guess what...in order to keep the wire taps live in TT they use shoddy "evidence" to renew the warrant...

The whole shoddy FISA warrant ordeal is about the past administration using his resources to spy on political opposition, anyone with a brain can make that connection. The "Russian Collusion" is just the shiny object to keep simpletons distracted from what was really going on. I know jellybean can't figure it out, hell we are nearing 100 pages now, but I thought you might be smarter.
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What are the fuck are you talking about with Trump Tower?

According to your memo - the first 2016 FISA warrant on him was granted in October 2016 - after he left the campaign. Was he in Trump Tower when he had a FISA warrant on him?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:What are the fuck are you talking about with Trump Tower?

According to your memo - the first 2016 FISA warrant on him was granted in October 2016 - after he left the campaign. Was he in Trump Tower when he had a FISA warrant on him?
How else did they get there?
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???

What are the hell are you talking about?

Trump tweeted over a year ago that Trump Tower was wiretapped. Nothing has suggested that was ever the case. Your precious memo didn't even claim as much.

WTF do you mean "how else did they get there"? :suspicious: :rofl:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:???

What are the hell are you talking about?

Trump tweeted over a year ago that Trump Tower was wiretapped. Nothing has suggested that was ever the case. Your precious memo didn't even claim as much.

WTF do you mean "how else did they get there"? :suspicious: :rofl:
Ok so the whole FISA thing is fine then...never mind that McCabe said they would have never pursied one if not for the dossier.

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Oh and speaking of wikileaks (are they still good or bad, I can never tell these days, depends on who is spinning the narrative I guess):
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CID1990 wrote:Still waiting on that collusion....

In other news, how close will Mueller get to Trump’s real estate dealings or taxes before Trump fires him?
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SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:???

What are the hell are you talking about?

Trump tweeted over a year ago that Trump Tower was wiretapped. Nothing has suggested that was ever the case. Your precious memo didn't even claim as much.

WTF do you mean "how else did they get there"? :suspicious: :rofl:
Ok so the whole FISA thing is fine then...never mind that McCabe said they would have never pursied one if not for the dossier.

:lol:

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Skjellyfetti wrote:definitely a dry hole.
The outreach by the CEO of the firm, which is partly owned by a major Trump donor and has close ties to a Trump adviser, came as Mr. Trump was publicly cheering the leaks of his Democratic rival’s emails and some supporters were seeking to unearth further messages.

In an email sent in late July 2016 and recently reviewed by the person, Cambridge Analytica CEO Alexander Nix told other employees at the firm and Rebekah Mercer, a top Republican donor, that he had recently reached out to Mr. Assange to offer help better indexing the messages WikiLeaks was releasing to make them more easily searchable. Those emails included a trove of messages stolen from Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta’s account and from the Democratic National Committee.

Mr. Nix’s email followed the Republican National Convention in July 2016, after which WikiLeaks began releasing its collection of Clinton-related emails. By Election Day, the site had released more than 50,000 emails stolen from Mr. Podesta and the DNC.

During this period, Mr. Trump praised WikiLeaks for releasing Clinton-related emails, and also sought the release of 33,000 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s State Department tenure that she had deemed personal and said she had deleted.

"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said in a late-July 2016 press conference. He later said he was joking.

...The Trump campaign began paying the company the following month, in July 2016, and ultimately paid it more than $5 million, much of which was for a TV ad buy that September. The Trump campaign’s first payment to the firm was July 29, 2016, the last day of the Democratic convention.

Cambridge Analytica offers analysis related to the personalities and values of voters. The firm is partly owned by billionaire Robert Mercer, Rebekah Mercer’s father, whose family began backing Mr. Trump in the election around the same time the Trump campaign hired the company.

The Mercers donated about $2 million to groups backing Mr. Trump’s campaign, according to campaign finance records. They were also instrumental in Mr. Trump’s third, and final, major campaign shake-up, when he installed Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway—who are both close to the Mercers—to lead the effort.

Mr. Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, sat on the board of Cambridge Analytica before entering the administration.

Mr. Nix’s outreach to Mr. Assange didn’t reference the 33,000 emails that Mrs. Clinton said were deleted from the private server she used as secretary of state, according to the person familiar with the exchange. But others close to the campaign considered or were actively searching for them.

Ms. Mercer and a person close to her had a brief conversation regarding Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails in June 2016, a month after Mr. Boobs had dropped out of the race, the person said. The person said they discussed whether it would make sense to try to access and release those emails, but ultimately decided that looking for them would create “major legal liabilities” and would be a “terrible idea.”

That conversation took place before WikiLeaks started publishing the separate trove of Clinton-related emails in July 2016, and before the Mercers had officially begun supporting Mr. Trump’s campaign, the person said. A representative for the Mercers didn’t return a request for comment.

The Wall Street Journal previously reported that longtime Republican operative Peter W. Smith in 2016 mounted a campaign to obtain the same 33,000 emails, which he believed were stolen from Mrs. Clinton’s private server, likely by Russian hackers.

Mr. Smith told the Journal earlier this year that after vetting batches of emails offered to him by hacker groups last fall, he couldn’t be sure enough of their authenticity to leak them himself. He said he advised the hackers to provide them to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has never published those emails or claimed to have them. Mr. Smith died in mid-May at age 81.
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Just watch and see.

Using CA for campaign data was a condition for money from the Mercers

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote: I told you Mueller’s making a show- you obviously ignored that.

When this thing fizzles in a few months, I wonder what you’re going to focus on for your win?
It's been more than a few months. Ain't no fizzle.
Yes .... any day now we'll have that collusion smoking gun

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Skjellyfetti wrote:Perhaps tangential... but, Cambridge Analytica has always been a big question mark - both in this story and Brexit.

It's heating up in the UK with the Red Scare fever crossing the pond. :D Maybe we'll get some answers.

They've been fighting the release of a Channel 4 investigation. Supposedly CA execs discuss "winning the election for Trump" and how they did it.
https://www.ft.com/content/7ed1572c-2aa ... 7563b0b0f4

Facebook stock plummeted on the news.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/03/ ... onday.aspx

Now sounds like they bout to get raided. :lol:
UK authorities seek warrant to search Cambridge Analytica offices
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-face ... SKBN1GV2OQ

Cambridge Analytica is a link between Bannon, the Mercers and is full of connections to Russia and Assange/Wikileaks. Will be interesting to see if there was any sharing of data between CA and... say... Internet Research Agency. :coffee:
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CFP: 2025
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