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Skjellyfetti wrote:No, there's a difference. You're just being pedantic.
Just a measely...small..inconsequential difference. It's a "nothingburger" (stupid, fucking term). :roll:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:No, there's a difference. You're just being pedantic.
No shit there's a difference. That's why I pointed that out, then you made a snarky comment in regards to my pointing out there is a difference. :roll:
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Graham: "This was a counter-intelligence investigation before now. It seems to me now to be considered a criminal investigation."
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Ok, special Counsel, special prosecutor, no difference. :roll:
They are essentially the same except that Trump can't appoint or fire the special counsel.
Oh don't you worry, he'll find a way. Or he'll just see him in court.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Graham: "This was a counter-intelligence investigation before now. It seems to me now to be considered a criminal investigation."
While on the topic of what Graham has said in the last hr:
"I Believe Clinton Operatives Emailed Justice Dept During Email Probe

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) made a surprise statement Thursday on "America's News HQ," saying he believes operatives in the Clinton campaign emailed the Justice Department during the email investigation.

Graham said he has "reason to believe" the communications exist and said he would like to see them turned over to the Senate Judiciary Committee, of which he is a member.

"If there was a communication to the Department of Justice about an ongoing investigation from people who are the subject of the investigation, I want to know that," he said.

His claim comes as President Trump has been accused of obstructing the Michael Flynn investigation, according to a report on a memo of former FBI Director

Graham weighed in on the appointment of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to investigate any ties between Russia and the Trump campaign. Graham said he hasn't seen any evidence of criminal activity by President Trump so far.

He said the appointment of a special counsel "knocks Congress out of the game for all practical purposes."

"Now I think the public will be one of the biggest losers of this decision," said Graham, explaining that public hearings with Comey or other figures are now unlikely. "
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http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 10&t=45801

And, I'm fine with Sessions appointing a special counsel to review the Clinton email case.
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Investigators on the House intelligence committees have obtained access to valuable data from the Treasury Department, a development that will open their doors to investigate possible connections between President Donald Trump's business empire and Russians, CNN has learned.

Investigators received access to the financial data this week, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the development.

Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee told reporters Thursday that his committee also had gotten the Treasury Department data.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 10&t=45801

And, I'm fine with Sessions appointing a special counsel to review the Clinton email case.
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What's that quote about history rhyming?

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Skjellyfetti wrote:What's that quote about history rhyming?

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The amount of spin, mental gymnastics, etc by the right would be comical if it didn't involve Treason, from Trump, Pence, Ryan, McConnell, etc.


If Obama or Clinton had done 1/1000000 of the shit that Trump and his "team" are pulling, they would have been impeached by now.

It's nauseating. As well as the so called "non-partisans" who are too chicken shit to take a stand.
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BDKJMU wrote: Nixon was right.
Tell me more, Roger Stone
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dbackjon wrote:The amount of spin, mental gymnastics, etc by the right would be comical if it didn't involve Treason, from Trump, Pence, Ryan, McConnell, etc.


If Obama or Clinton had done 1/1000000 of the **** that Trump and his "team" are pulling, they would have been impeached by now.

It's nauseating. As well as the so called "non-partisans" who are too chicken **** to take a stand.
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welcome back, cid. what's your take on special counsel appointment?

still thinks this only goes as far as Flynn on FARA violation?
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I think it is going to slow things waaaay down.

Also, no public hearings. Comey and others will testify behind closed doors. And all Congressional inquiries come to a halt.

And yes, I think Flynn goes down for Russia and Turkey payments. Maybe one or two other Trump surrogates, but that is as far as it goes in terms of the Russia connection.

But as Bill Clinton knows, these things have no boundaries, so the investigation can go down any avenue.

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Yeah, I agree that it is going to slow way down. And, the daily bombshells will be drying up. But, this week has been too fucking ridiculous and my work productivity has gone down the shitter.
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dbackjon wrote:The amount of spin, mental gymnastics, etc by the right would be comical if it didn't involve Treason, from Trump, Pence, Ryan, McConnell, etc.


If Obama or Clinton had done 1/1000000 of the shit that Trump and his "team" are pulling, they would have been impeached by now.

It's nauseating. As well as the so called "non-partisans" who are too chicken shit to take a stand.
Well Clinton did mishandle classified information. Which is illegal. Why don't you care about that?

Oh right, you're a Democrat.


I don't know about treason...but Trump is still a train wreck.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:Documents are probably a nothingburger. :roll:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 10&t=45801

And, I'm fine with Sessions appointing a special counsel to review the Clinton email case.
:nod:

As much as I'd like to see her in jail, seeing the Clintons go broke defending themselves against the unlimited resources of the gubmint would be just as good.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Yeah, I agree that it is going to slow way down. And, the daily bombshells will be drying up. But, this week has been too fucking ridiculous and my work productivity has gone down the shitter.
Trump will grab the fire iron and poke the embers just when this stuff has been out of the news long enough for many to have forgotten it. He can't help it, no impulse control.
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dbackjon wrote:The amount of spin, mental gymnastics, etc by the right would be comical if it didn't involve Treason, from Trump, Pence, Ryan, McConnell, etc.


If Obama or Clinton had done 1/1000000 of the **** that Trump and his "team" are pulling, they would have been impeached by now.

It's nauseating. As well as the so called "non-partisans" who are too chicken **** to take a stand.
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:rofl:
As unrelenting shockers keep streaming in from the White House, one more has a senior Trump administration official on the record, saying, “I don’t see how Trump isn’t completely f—ed.”
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I think too many people are putting too much stock in the Comey notes/memos. Seems like any decent lawyer with cross examination skills would be able to knock their validity pretty easily...

...also a lot of "anonymous" sources in this whole ordeal quoting some pretty off the wall stuff. If nothing comes of this whole investigation, it will go down as one of the best troll jobs in history.
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SDHornet wrote:I think too many people are putting too much stock in the Comey notes/memos. Seems like any decent lawyer with cross examination skills would be able to knock their validity pretty easily.
:mrgreen:

Even an indecent lawyer.... :lol:

Actually, the legal issue that interests me the most is not "validity" but whether Trump has an executive privilege argument.
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Skjellyfetti wrote::rofl:
As unrelenting shockers keep streaming in from the White House, one more has a senior Trump administration official on the record, saying, “I don’t see how Trump isn’t completely f—ed.”
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/unnamed-white- ... 28094.html
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