Armed Conk militia group occupies Malheur NWR offices

[Grizalltheway]

Like I said, you don't disappoint.

Why don't you give us the cliff notes Spandos?

Hey, he doesn't have the time or the inclination to explain his arguments. He did, however, have time to watch the entire 18 minute video himself.

[89Hen]

Like I said, you don't disappoint.

Why don't you give us the cliff notes Spandos?

How did this become a conspiracy issue?

Oh, I get it. Length of video.

[89Hen]

Why don't you give us the cliff notes Spandos?

Hey, he doesn't have the time or the inclination to explain his arguments. He did, however, have time to watch the entire 18 minute video himself.

Didn't have to watch, I lived it.

[89Hen]

BTW...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... deadly-fo/

Television personality Montel Williams, a former Marine, called Sunday for a “massive use of deadly force” against the armed anti-government protesters that have taken over a building in a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon.

[kalm]

Hey, he doesn't have the time or the inclination to explain his arguments. He did, however, have time to watch the entire 18 minute video himself.

Didn't have to watch, I lived it.

OK, well since you lived it, that certainly clears it up.

[kalm]

BTW...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... deadly-fo/

Television personality Montel Williams, a former Marine, called Sunday for a “massive use of deadly force” against the armed anti-government protesters that have taken over a building in a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon.

Might I suggest the Oath Keepers?

[Grizalltheway]

BTW...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... deadly-fo/

Television personality Montel Williams, a former Marine, called Sunday for a “massive use of deadly force” against the armed anti-government protesters that have taken over a building in a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon.

Good for him. After Waco, the feds will do everything possible to avoid violence in situations like this, and the Bundy Bunch know it.

[Baldy]

The only thing that hurts are my fingers. Correcting your falsehoods is hard work.

Use those fingers and count how many of my falsehoods you've corrected here.

Oh wow...where to begin.

[kalm]

BTW...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... deadly-fo/

Good for him. After Waco, the feds will do everything possible to avoid violence in situations like this, and the Bundy Bunch know it.

We need someone to go "Reno on their ass."

[kalm]

Use those fingers and count how many of my falsehoods you've corrected here.

Oh wow...where to begin.

What's funny is you haven't corrected a thing.

I give you a 10 for bloviating though.

[89Hen]

Didn't have to watch, I lived it.

OK, well since you lived it, that certainly clears it up.

Yup. Just like Cleets and anything to do with Google.

[kalm]

OK, well since you lived it, that certainly clears it up.

Yup. Just like Cleets and anything to do with Google.

And still no indication of what the video is about. It must be real good.

[89Hen]

Yup. Just like Cleets and anything to do with Google.

And still no indication of what the video is about. It must be real good.

Just shows peaceful protesters fighting, trying to keep people who don't agree with them out, their occupation of public land (without a permit) where the only way they'll be removed is arrest.

[kalm]

And still no indication of what the video is about. It must be real good.

Just shows peaceful protesters fighting, trying to keep people who don't agree with them out, their occupation of public land (without a permit) where the only way they'll be removed is arrest.

[89Hen]

Just shows peaceful protesters fighting, trying to keep people who don't agree with them out, their occupation of public land (without a permit) where the only way they'll be removed is arrest.

I forgot, you see the world in black and white, so you don't get things like this. Maybe that was Cleetus.

[kalm]

I forgot, you see the world in black and white, so you don't get things like this. Maybe that was Cleetus.

No, I just had a strong suspicion you had nothing and it was proven to be correct.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

I don't think they have any chance but I do think there should be a massive reduction in land area owned and/or controlled by the Federal government. Especially out West. It should look much more like the East if not even less than that. There's no reason to allow the Federal government to own and control all that land. It should be controlled by the States it's in or transferred to private ownership.

Agreed. Make states the stewards of their land.

Nevada always amazes me. They didn't meet the qualifications to become a state to begin with, I wonder if they still do.


Ha. Good one.

Nevada is 81.1% owned by the Feds. Utah is next at 66.5% with Obamtard looking to make this bigger. Utah is suing to get control back though.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3287281-155/ ... o-sue-feds

http://www.deseretnews.com/top/2318/49/ ... nment.html

[89Hen]

I forgot, you see the world in black and white, so you don't get things like this. Maybe that was Cleetus.

No, I just had a strong suspicion you had nothing and it was proven to be correct.

You see the world differently, so yeah.

[89Hen]

If you're... looking for a fight - don't whine when you get exactly what you're asking for

[kalm]

No, I just had a strong suspicion you had nothing and it was proven to be correct.

You see the world differently, so yeah.

Trespassing on public land or private land in Ferguson or Oregon = idiots.
Looting = idiots.
Armed entry and occupation of federal office buildings = idiots.
Violent protests = idiots.

Ferguson and Oregon are still not the same circumstances and the motivations are not even close.

So.....yeah.

[89Hen]

Ferguson and Oregon are still not the same circumstances and the motivations are not even close.

Of course they're not the same circumstance, but their motivations are closer than you think. From what I can tell so far, Malheur is far more peaceful, not sure if that's why you think they're so different.

[Skjellyfetti]

Nevada is 81.1% owned by the Feds.

How much of that is owned by the Department of Defense?

And, I'm assuming tribal reservations are included?

[89Hen]

Ferguson and Oregon

BTW, my video was DC, not Ferguson.

[kalm]

Ferguson and Oregon are still not the same circumstances and the motivations are not even close.

Of course they're not the same circumstance, but their motivations are closer than you think. From what I can tell so far, Malheur is far more peaceful, not sure if that's why you think they're so different.

When I first read this, my thoughts were:

That's a really cool area with wide open spaces, abundant wildlife, some great fishing...

I'd like to go visit the Malhuer NWR someday.

Having watched cattle absolutely destroy a desert spring creek where I hike and fish and seeing the efforts of the BLM to restore riparian habitat and manage the property for all to enjoy I realize there's more to public lands than just a rancher's ability to make a buck off of it.

These Bundy types don't think the rules apply to them, break the law, threaten federal workers (who also live, hunt, and fish in the area), and are a bunch of ignorant, selfish, welfare dependent tools.

I'll bet more than a few folks who enjoy the public lands are pissed they can't access them because of this.

I wonder if Alphagriz is heading down there.

Ferguson never crossed my mind until this thread. So yeah... I guess we're different.

BTW, how are their motivations similar?

[Grizalltheway]

Well, that was anticlimactic.

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