THE BIG EAST CONFERENCE

[Seahawks08]

The bottom of the Big East this year may be abysmal. I can see Depaul, Creighton, and St. Johns becoming shitshows. Seton Hall may also fall into that category if Whitehead doesn't improve.

[vutomcat]

Chris Mullin will have his hands full resurrecting the Johnnies.

[vutomcat]

Remember when Creighton was the best team in their conference?

Winners by school[edit]

School (year joined) Winners Years

Creighton (1977)[a] 7 1990, 1991, 2002, 2003, 2009, 2012, 2013
Bradley (1948) 6 1977, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1996
Southern Illinois (1975) 6 1976, 1992, 1995, 2004, 2005, 2007
Drake (1907) 5 1971, 1980, 1981, 1993, 2008
Wichita State (1945) 5 1983, 1984, 1985, 2006, 2014
Indiana State (1977) 3 1978, 1979, 2000
Northern Iowa (1991) 3 1997, 2010, 2015
Tulsa (1935) 3 1969, 1982, 1994
Illinois State (1981) 2 1998, 2001
Louisville (1963)[c] 2 1974, 1975
Memphis State (1968)[d] 2 1972, 1973
Cincinnati (1957)[e] 1 1970
Evansville (1994) 1 1999
Missouri State (1990) 1 2011
Loyola (2013) 0 —

[clenz]

What is that a list of?

Creighton is shit right now. Would finish behind WSU, UNI, ISU, ISU, Loyola and Evansville fir sure last year and this year.

They would have been the same without Doug his 3 years in the MVC. sCUm got completely bailed out when Greg stole Doug out of his LOI to UNI.

But BE fans are delusional enough to believe they are actually that much better than the MVC....

[GannonFan]

Chris Mullin will have his hands full resurrecting the Johnnies.

So has every coach since St John's was actually good back in the early 80's. St John's may have a year or two here or there where they are good, but most of the time they're going to stink. St John's is not a good basketball program, it hasn't been one for decades now, and that's not going to change anytime soon.

[vutomcat]

ESPN's No-Longer-Way-Too-Early Top 25

1. Maryland Terrapins
2. North Carolina Tar Heels
3. Kentucky Wildcats
4. Virginia Cavaliers
5. Kansas Jayhawks
6. Duke Blue Devils
7. Iowa State Cyclones
8. Oklahoma Sooners 9. Wichita State Shockers
10. Villanova Wildcats
11. Gonzaga Bulldogs
12. California Golden Bears
13. Utah Utes
14. Indiana Hoosiers
15. Arizona Wildcats
16. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
17. Baylor Bears
18. Vanderbilt Commodores
19. Michigan State Spartans
20. West Virginia Mountaineers
21. SMU Mustangs
22. LSU Tigers
23. Butler Bulldogs
24. Wisconsin Badgers
25. Texas A&M Aggies

Hoping Virginia and Oklahoma are really this good so the OOC for NOVA is strong and they are properly tested for the tourney.

[dbackjon]

ESPN's No-Longer-Way-Too-Early Top 25

1. Maryland Terrapins
2. North Carolina Tar Heels
3. Kentucky Wildcats
4. Virginia Cavaliers
5. Kansas Jayhawks
6. Duke Blue Devils
7. Iowa State Cyclones
8. Oklahoma Sooners
9. Wichita State Shockers
10. Villanova Wildcats
11. Gonzaga Bulldogs
12. California Golden Bears
13. Utah Utes
14. Indiana Hoosiers
15. Arizona Wildcats
16. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
17. Baylor Bears
18. Vanderbilt Commodores
19. Michigan State Spartans
20. West Virginia Mountaineers
21. SMU Mustangs
22. LSU Tigers
23. Butler Bulldogs
24. Wisconsin Badgers
25. Texas A&M Aggies

Kentucky bringing back that much?


Only three teams outside of the P5+BE

[vutomcat]

It's not what they're bringing back so much as what they're bringing in. Three five star recruits and a four star.

[dbackjon]

It's not what they're bringing back so much as what they're bringing in. Three five star recruits and a four star.

A completely new team worked last year, didn't in 2013.

Will be interesting to see how this year's edition meshes.

[Seahawks08]

It's not what they're bringing back so much as what they're bringing in. Three five star recruits and a four star.

A completely new team worked last year, didn't in 2013.

Will be interesting to see how this year's edition meshes.

Wasn't completely new last year. That's part of the reason why they were so dominant. Their second team would have been starters on most other first teams.

[dbackjon]

A completely new team worked last year, didn't in 2013.

Will be interesting to see how this year's edition meshes.

Wasn't completely new last year. That's part of the reason why they were so dominant. Their second team would have been starters on most other first teams.

So it will be more like 2013

[Seahawks08]

A nice little preview of the upcoming season:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... lite-again

[GannonFan]

Well that was a sunny article. I think we'll need clenz's perspective since he can speak for the Creighton side of things since the article says Creighton is "... pretty underrated across the board". As great as last season was, the Big East was 5-6 in the NCAA tournament, with no team advancing to the Elite Eight, despite getting 6 teams in and getting very favorable seeds. So two years in a row the Big East has had awful (2013-14 season) and bad (2014-15 season) NCAA tournaments. That's where the true measure comes into play and the conference is coming up woefully short. The article says the new Big East is capable of producing "Final Four-quality teams". I think they'd settle for getting even one team into the Elite Eight. Baby steps.

[vutomcat]

2015-16 AP Preseason Poll


RANK

TEAM (FIRST)

POINTS

1 North Carolina Tar Heels (35) 1566
2 Kentucky Wildcats (10) 1520
3 Maryland Terrapins (14) 1487
4 Kansas Jayhawks (5) 1410
5 Duke Blue Devils 1350
6 Virginia Cavaliers (1) 1347
7 Iowa State Cyclones 1185
8 Oklahoma Sooners 1088
9 Gonzaga Bulldogs 1047
10 Wichita State Shockers 1032
11 Villanova Wildcats 1013
12 Arizona Wildcats 917
13 Michigan State Spartans 838
14 California Golden Bears 757
15 Indiana Hoosiers 755
16 Utah Utes 499
17 Wisconsin Badgers 433
18 Vanderbilt Commodores 393
19 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 360
20 Connecticut Huskies 307

[vutomcat]

Word out of Nova is the Cats beat Maryland in a secret scrimmage at the Pavilion over the weekend. I'll need to check the Maryland site out to see if they are claiming victory as well.

[Seahawks08]

Well that was a sunny article. I think we'll need clenz's perspective since he can speak for the Creighton side of things since the article says Creighton is "... pretty underrated across the board". As great as last season was, the Big East was 5-6 in the NCAA tournament, with no team advancing to the Elite Eight, despite getting 6 teams in and getting very favorable seeds. So two years in a row the Big East has had awful (2013-14 season) and bad (2014-15 season) NCAA tournaments. That's where the true measure comes into play and the conference is coming up woefully short. The article says the new Big East is capable of producing "Final Four-quality teams". I think they'd settle for getting even one team into the Elite Eight. Baby steps.

I agree completely. Being specific to Nova though, the past few successful seasons (albeit not the main tourney) has finally brought potential one and dones to Nova. They have one this year and another one coming in next year, so at least from that perspective, baby steps is correct.

[GannonFan]

2015-16 AP Preseason Poll


RANK

TEAM (FIRST)

POINTS

1 North Carolina Tar Heels (35) 1566
2 Kentucky Wildcats (10) 1520
3 Maryland Terrapins (14) 1487
4 Kansas Jayhawks (5) 1410
5 Duke Blue Devils 1350
6 Virginia Cavaliers (1) 1347
7 Iowa State Cyclones 1185
8 Oklahoma Sooners 1088
9 Gonzaga Bulldogs 1047
10 Wichita State Shockers 1032
11 Villanova Wildcats 1013
12 Arizona Wildcats 917
13 Michigan State Spartans 838
14 California Golden Bears 757
15 Indiana Hoosiers 755
16 Utah Utes 499
17 Wisconsin Badgers 433
18 Vanderbilt Commodores 393
19 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 360
20 Connecticut Huskies 307

Gotta love Gonzaga. Mark Few is a sure fire HOF coach. Year after year he keeps reloading out there to a place that was pretty much off the map before he got there. Granted, Monson was the head coach when they first burst onto the scene, but seeing Few's trajectory since then versus Monson and Few looks even better.

[clenz]

Well that was a sunny article. I think we'll need clenz's perspective since he can speak for the Creighton side of things since the article says Creighton is "... pretty underrated across the board". As great as last season was, the Big East was 5-6 in the NCAA tournament, with no team advancing to the Elite Eight, despite getting 6 teams in and getting very favorable seeds. So two years in a row the Big East has had awful (2013-14 season) and bad (2014-15 season) NCAA tournaments. That's where the true measure comes into play and the conference is coming up woefully short. The article says the new Big East is capable of producing "Final Four-quality teams". I think they'd settle for getting even one team into the Elite Eight. Baby steps.

Creighton sucks.

Will lose to MVC replacement Loyola (IL) this year...

[clenz]

Oh...and...I'll leave this here without comment


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- In its first of two exhibition contests leading up to the 2015-16 season, St. John’s fell, 90-58, to St. Thomas Aquinas on Wednesday night at Carnesecca Arena.



Yeah...that's a D2 school...

[Seahawks08]

Oh...and...I'll leave this here without comment


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- In its first of two exhibition contests leading up to the 2015-16 season, St. John’s fell, 90-58, to St. Thomas Aquinas on Wednesday night at Carnesecca Arena.



Yeah...that's a D2 school...

[vutomcat]

Off to Wells Fargo center for an exhibition against Pace university. Basketball season should be fun again this year. Football has only a faint glimmer of hope left. Wins against Richmond and JMU seem too much to ask.

[clenz]

Powerhouse Radford takes down Georgetwn

[Seahawks08]

Powerhouse Radford takes down Georgetwn

Alright negative nanny. Here are the others:

Nova over Fairleigh Dickinson
Belmont over Marquette
Providence over Harvard
Creighton over Texas Southern
Butler way over The Citadel
Xavier over Miami (Ohio)
St. Johns over Wagner
Seton Hall over Dartmouth

[GannonFan]

Powerhouse Radford takes down Georgetwn

Alright negative nanny. Here are the others:

Nova over Fairleigh Dickinson
Belmont over Marquette
Providence over Harvard
Creighton over Texas Southern
Butler way over The Citadel
Xavier over Miami (Ohio)
St. Johns over Wagner
Seton Hall over Dartmouth

Yikes, Marquette lost to Belmont on top of Radford beating Georgetown!?!?!?!

[clenz]

Alright negative nanny. Here are the others:

Nova over Fairleigh Dickinson
Belmont over Marquette
Providence over Harvard
Creighton over Texas Southern
Butler way over The Citadel
Xavier over Miami (Ohio)
St. Johns over Wagner
Seton Hall over Dartmouth

Yikes, Marquette lost to Belmont on top of Radford beating Georgetown!?!?!?!

I got a chuckle out of that one too.

Some big wins though - something called Fairleigh Dickinson, Texas Southern, The Citadel, Wagner, Dartmouth....