Boy Suspended for Shirt w/ a Gun Image

[89Hen]

Examples of inappropriate clothing attire include:
• Tops that expose bare shoulders
• See-through or tube tops
• Tops that expose midriff, stomach, back or undergarments
• Tops with narrow or string straps. Bra straps should not
show.
• Tops that reveal cleavage
• Sagging pants that are worn below the hips or expose
undergarments or shorts
• Skin-tight pants (i.e. leggings, jeggings, yoga pants, etc.).
Legging may only be worn under appropriate length skirts
or shorts.
• Pajamas and/or slippers
• Clothing promoting alcohol, drugs, tobacco or violence
• Clothing containing objectionable language or symbols,
including weapons or having sexual references
• Clothing containing symbols signifying membership in, or
identification with, gang activity (i.e. bandanas, sagging
pants, gang signs, etc.)
• Any markings or tattoos that are considered gang related
• Hats or hoods
• PE uniforms (unless requested to wear by a staff member)
• Short shorts or mini skirts that are above fingertip length
• Holes in jeans that are above fingertip length
• Metal bracelets, chains or other types of jewelry that could
be deemed a safety hazard
• Bare feet or socks
• Painting or marking on faces, arms, hands, legs, and stickon
skin tattoos
All decisions regarding inappropriate dress or grooming are
at the complete discretion of the McCarty administration.
Decisions may be appealed to the principal. Students are
expected to follow McCarty’s dress code expectations. If
students choose to dress inappropriately:
First Offense: Change to appropriate dress, write out
expectations, parent contact
Second Offense: Change to appropriate dress, 3 lunch
detentions or 1 after school detention, parent contact
Third Offense: Change to appropriate dress, 1 day
suspension, parent conference
Fourth Offense: Change to appropriate dress, 3-5 day
suspension for insubordination

[kalm]

Would you ask somebody to change a shirt with this image?

Me perosnally? Of course not. But I understand the school's situation. Like I said, in Kalm's school they'd all wear uni's. Probably some off-take of prison attire.

Year's ago, my business partnered with a church and held an annual Easter egg hunt. The school district agreed to hand out fliers to all the kids for us. We printed up hundreds of copies and they called us back and said we had to strike the name of Easter from the flier. I was floored until they explained the threat of a lawsuit from non-christians (gawdamm pagan/atheists!)

I didn't like it. Thought it was ridiculous. But I understood.

[89Hen]

Would you ask somebody to change a shirt with this image?

Me perosnally? Of course not. But I understand the school's situation.

After I wrote the question I almost went back to add that I was really asking about whether you would IF you had the policy I posted.

[89Hen]

Like I said, in Kalm's school they'd all wear uni's. Probably some off-take of prison attire

BTW, you can fix that. Just open the wallet you tightwad.

School unforms are the best thing in the world. No worries about who has what brand, being made fun of by your clothes at school, etc.. That said, there is a down side. When 89Henette went to college, we had to spend a TON of money on cool season clothes. She was at school so long each day, she really didn't have a huge need for regular clothes. Cost me a ton at the outlets that summer.

[Ibanez]

If it was a white kid, you wouldn't have an issue. I think you're reaching here. I think your distrust of Middle Eastern people is clouding your reason and judgement. Not every Muslim is a terrorist.

They're not, but it's not a reach in this case. His family history and the appearance of the "clock" make it not a reach IMO.

I get that. That's where common sense comes in.

[CID1990]

Apparently you can. The "raghead" kid made a clock, and like most engineers he lacked common sense in bringing it to school the way he did.

Both kids did nothing wrong.

Yeah. A clock. That looked JUST like a bomb. The "clock" is a nice cover story....

Trust me Mark, when even Bill **** Mahr agrees with me, you know I'm right.

with a muslin activist father known for being an agitator

what a coincidence

[89Hen]

They're not, but it's not a reach in this case. His family history and the appearance of the "clock" make it not a reach IMO.

I get that. That's where common sense comes in.

So you're saying....

[Ibanez]

I get that. That's where common sense comes in.

So you're saying....

He has the mind of an engineer...those types of people lack common sense.

And his parents should've looked at that, looked at him and said, " You're a muslim kid and you want to take this to a school? I know it's not a bomb, but it looks like a bomb. Use your head."

[89Hen]

So you're saying....

He has the mind of an engineer...those types of people lack common sense.

And his parents should've looked at that, looked at him and said, " You're a muslim kid and you want to take this to a school? I know it's not a bomb, but it looks like a bomb. Use your head."

Seems like I can't follow you half the time, my fault. I thought you were saying is was a stretch for the school to think it was a bomb. That said, I also don't think it's a strech to believe that the boy may have been intentional in his presentation, again because of his family background.

[Bronco]

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Shame this kid didn't get an invite like the clock boy

[Ibanez]

He has the mind of an engineer...those types of people lack common sense.

And his parents should've looked at that, looked at him and said, " You're a muslim kid and you want to take this to a school? I know it's not a bomb, but it looks like a bomb. Use your head."

Seems like I can't follow you half the time, my fault. I thought you were saying is was a stretch for the school to think it was a bomb. That said, I also don't think it's a strech to believe that the boy may have been intentional in his presentation, again because of his family background.

Oh, no. It looked like a bomb. I get the family background and how that plays. Hence my common sense statement. Good on the kid for being interested in engineering, but shame on him and his family for not thinking how the clock could be misinterpreted.

Jimmy Duggan says "Use your head, that's the lump 3 feet above your ass!"

At the same token, do we assume every white guy driving a truck with fertilizer in the back is on his way to blow up a federal building?

[Ibanez]

Let's not forget that this is 2015, the year that everything is offensive to someone.


And if that offends you, i'm not sorry.

[CAA Flagship]

So you're saying....

He has the mind of an engineer...those types of people lack common sense.

And his parents should've looked at that, looked at him and said, " You're a muslim kid and you want to take this to a school? I know it's not a bomb, but it looks like a bomb. Use your head."

Aaaaaand, fuck you.

[89Hen]

shame on him and his family for not thinking how the clock could be misinterpreted.

You keep saying that, but as I said, I'm not convinced it was unintentional. If not unintentional, it wasn't misinterpreted.

[Ibanez]

shame on him and his family for not thinking how the clock could be misinterpreted.

You keep saying that, but as I said, I'm not convinced it was unintentional. If not unintentional, it wasn't misinterpreted.

Why do you think it was intentional? What is there for him to gain? To highlight the weak security of his school?


I admit, I'm giving a stranger the benefit of the doubt.

[Ibanez]

He has the mind of an engineer...those types of people lack common sense.

And his parents should've looked at that, looked at him and said, " You're a muslim kid and you want to take this to a school? I know it's not a bomb, but it looks like a bomb. Use your head."

Aaaaaand, fuck you.

We had drinks at a local bar. You could've had good, local craft beer. Instead, you chose BL. I think that more than proves my point that:
1) You lack common sense
2) You lack taste

and for old times sake.

3) Also sodomy

[89Hen]

You keep saying that, but as I said, I'm not convinced it was unintentional. If not unintentional, it wasn't misinterpreted.

Why do you think it was intentional? What is there for him to gain? To highlight the weak security of his school?


I admit, I'm giving a stranger the benefit of the doubt.

I said may have been intentional. Because his family seems to be neck deep in this kind of stuff.

[CAA Flagship]

Aaaaaand, fuck you.

We had drinks at a local bar. You could've had good, local craft beer. Instead, you chose BL. I think that more than proves my point that:
1) You lack common sense
2) You lack taste

and for old times sake.

3) Also sodomy

Remember, my financial future is in the lap of A-B. And I am sacrificing a great deal because of it (cough, cough, St. Louis). So common sense would lean towards my financial future......one beer at a time.

[JohnStOnge]

Not that I necessarily liked being there but schools were much cooler places when I was a lad (graduated from high school in 1975). Every once in a while I thank God (if he's out there) for allowing me to come of age back then instead of now.

Though it would have been cool to have the personal computers, devices, the internet, etc., back then.

On balance though I'm glad I got to be a kid back in the 60s and be a teenager during the 70s.

[93henfan]

Believe it or not, I'd totally be in favor of school uniforms in public schools...for multiple reasons. It's the conk side of me.

My sons' public school district mandates uniforms. It's awesome. Makes clothes shopping easy.

[CID1990]

You keep saying that, but as I said, I'm not convinced it was unintentional. If not unintentional, it wasn't misinterpreted.

Why do you think it was intentional? What is there for him to gain? To highlight the weak security of his school?


I admit, I'm giving a stranger the benefit of the doubt.

I for one believe it was intentional. That is what I was alluding to before.

I think this kid brought this gadget (which was an electronic clock with the cover removed.... he didn't build it - he took the cover off an existing clock) to school with the intention of getting a rise out of school officials

when he was questioned about it he became intentionally coy and evasive

This kid got exactly what he and his father wanted and more- to prove a point about "bigotry against muslins" based on the reaction

and they got an unexpected invite to the White House from President "They Acted Stupidly If I Had A Son Trayvon Sure Wish I HAd Advisors Who Would Tell Me To Keep My Mouth Shut"

[AshevilleApp]

Believe it or not, I'd totally be in favor of school uniforms in public schools...for multiple reasons. It's the conk side of me.

My sons' public school district mandates uniforms. It's awesome. Makes clothes shopping easy.

I live in Liberal Asheville, and hear this from parents quite a bit. So far only one school is trying it, but I expect to see more.

[AshevilleApp]

Not that I necessarily liked being there but schools were much cooler places when I was a lad (graduated from high school in 1975). Every once in a while I thank God (if he's out there) for allowing me to come of age back then instead of now.

Though it would have been cool to have the personal computers, devices, the internet, etc., back then.

On balance though I'm glad I got to be a kid back in the 60s and be a teenager during the 70s.

I don't often agree with you, but I do here. HS Class of 1978. We actually hung out in the woods and made/found our own fun then. Things change though, and parents adapt as they see fit.

[CID1990]

My sons' public school district mandates uniforms. It's awesome. Makes clothes shopping easy.

I live in Liberal Asheville, and hear this from parents quite a bit. So far only one school is trying it, but I expect to see more.

They did this in some middle schools in Charleston County when I was with CPD (I was in the school resource unit for two years).

The idea was that making all the kids dress the same way cut down on distractions and dress code violations (which usually meant skirts too high, blouses too low or saggy shorts).

The results were actually pretty good, but I didn't care much for the fact that it penalized kids (and parents) who normally follow the rules. That's a familiar refrain for one size fits all rules that we are so in love with in this country.

[93henfan]

I live in Liberal Asheville, and hear this from parents quite a bit. So far only one school is trying it, but I expect to see more.

They did this in some middle schools in Charleston County when I was with CPD (I was in the school resource unit for two years).

The idea was that making all the kids dress the same way cut down on distractions and dress code violations (which usually meant skirts too high, blouses too low or saggy shorts).

The results were actually pretty good, but I didn't care much for the fact that it penalized kids (and parents) who normally follow the rules. That's a familiar refrain for one size fits all rules that we are so in love with in this country.

The way it works in our district, for boys anyway, is that shirts must have collar and button (ie golf or polo) and must be one of four colors: maroon, gold (the school district colors), navy, or white. Bottoms can be shorts or pants; no jeans. No restriction on shoes.

Kids can still wear their favorite brands if they want, within the rules above.

Edit: I was pretty much correct. Here's the dress code -
http://www.milfordschooldistrict.org/pd ... POLICY.pdf