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Vettel to leave Ferrari after 2020: https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/sebas ... k/4791096/

Hamilton had previously considered taking a break from F1: https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamil ... 0/4790724/
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grizzaholic wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:45 pm NASCAR is back. Going to be rough on the drivers with races stacked and no breaks.

NASCAR Ready To Return
NASCAR will return with seven races -- including four Cup Series races -- over an 11-day span, beginning May 17 at Darlington Raceway.

DATE SERIES TRACK DIST.
May 17 Cup Darlington 400 mi
May 19 Xfinity Darlington 200 mi
May 20 Cup Darlington 500 km
May 24 Cup Charlotte 600 mi
May 25 Xfinity Charlotte 300 mi
May 26 Trucks Charlotte 200 mi
May 27 Cup Charlotte 500 km
More added (Cup underlined)
Date Track Series Distance Network Start
Sat., May 30 Bristol Xfinity 160 miles FS1 3:30 p.m. ET
Sun., May 31 Bristol Cup 266 miles FS1 3:30 p.m. ET
Sat., June 6 Atlanta Gander Trucks 200 miles FS1 1 p.m. ET
Sat., June 6 Atlanta Xfinity 251 miles FOX 4:30 p.m. ET
Sun., June 7 Atlanta Cup 500 miles FOX 3 p.m. ET
Wed., June 10 Martinsville Cup 263 miles FS1 7 p.m. ET

Sat., June 13 Homestead Gander Trucks 201 miles FS1 12:30 p.m. ET
Sat., June 13 Homestead Xfinity 250 miles FOX 3:30 p.m. ET
Sun., June 14 Homestead Xfinity 250 miles FS1 Noon ET
Sun., June 14 Homestead Cup 400 miles FOX 3:30 p.m. ET
Sat., June 20 Talladega ARCA 202 miles FS1 2 p.m. ET
Sat., June 20 Talladega Xfinity 300 miles FS1 5:30 p.m. ET
Sun., June 21 Talladega Cup 500 miles FOX 3 p.m. ET
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So, do the rescue crews have to stay six feet away when these bozos crash five times in the last three laps like they always predictably do nowadays?
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Dover loses a race starting in 2021: https://www.wdel.com/news/report-dover- ... 1369f.html
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Anyone see that IndyCar debacle on Saturday? One car out in front the whole way with up to 10 seconds between him and the next car. What's up with that? SMH....
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NASCAR bans the confederate flag. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:29 pm NASCAR bans the confederate flag. :clap: :clap: :clap:
They were already failing as a sport. Doesn't really matter now if they further alienate their once core audience.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:18 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:29 pm NASCAR bans the confederate flag. :clap: :clap: :clap:
They were already failing as a sport. Doesn't really matter now if they further alienate their once core audience.
Eh, I've come to terms with the shrinking crowd sizes.

Core audiences can sometimes be toxic (see Harley Davidson), and it'd be better for NASCAR to survive with less fans and corporate sponsorships intact than going the way of the dodo bird. And you might not see it, but for years, there's been an audience clamoring for more inclusion and clamping down on race day toxicity. For example, the NASCAR message board on Reddit has 450K users and they're celebrating today.

At least personally, it'll be MUCH easier to convince friends to go to races. I've literally had people refuse to attend because they (understandably) thought NASCAR didn't give a sh*t about racism. To be honest, I was going to skip Richmond in September if the confederate flag wasn't banned...and I'm embarrassed to say I didn't think about doing that before recent events.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:18 pm They were already failing as a sport. Doesn't really matter now if they further alienate their once core audience.
Eh, I've come to terms with the shrinking crowd sizes.

Core audiences can sometimes be toxic (see Harley Davidson), and it'd be better for NASCAR to survive with less fans and corporate sponsorships intact than going the way of the dodo bird. And you might not see it, but for years, there's been an audience clamoring for more inclusion and clamping down on race day toxicity. For example, the NASCAR message board on Reddit has 450K users and they're celebrating today.

At least personally, it'll be MUCH easier to convince friends to go to races. I've literally had people refuse to attend because they (understandably) thought NASCAR didn't give a sh*t about racism. To be honest, I was going to skip Richmond in September if the confederate flag wasn't banned...and I'm embarrassed to say I didn't think about doing that before recent events.
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NASCAR is the poster child of how to kill a fan base. Over the years on here, the many fan base killing things they've done have been listed many times. You're going to see emptier an emptier stands on TV, and ratings will continue to decline. Going to be a MAJOR economic reset in 2024 when the current TV deal expires..

If the flag ban was the only thing they'd done in the last week plus, I'd still watch, and maybe go to a couple races a year. After all, flag ban will eliminate it from being flown in the infield, which is NASCAR's biggest thing because of TV, but you'll still see it in RV parking areas, and on t shirts, hats, etc, esp at places like Darlington, Dega, Bristol. But the last week+ NASCAR has gone full retard in their SJW embrace of BLM (Race Hub and Sunday's ATL race) and and gay pride month . The last straw for me was Mon when the BLM car was announced.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:18 pm The last straw for me was Mon when the BLM car was announced.
Yep. They eliminate one racist thing and introduce another.
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93henfan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:21 am Trump to attend the 500.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/president- ... aytona-500
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Trump couldn't name five of the drivers in the race without a primer on the flight down from his handlers. :lol:
Even then , he’d get it all wrong.

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Flags bearing Earnhardt's No. 3 still fly alongside the rebel flag in infields. But how did Earnhardt himself feel about the flag? A story from off the track gives a clue.

There's a bumper sticker out there still on sale at just about every truck stop in the South. "AMERICAN BY BIRTH," it reads, "SOUTHERN BY THE GRACE OF GOD," usually with a rebel flag alongside. One day Earnhardt slapped one of these stickers onto the bumper of one of his trucks. He didn't think any more of it until his housekeeper, an African-American woman beloved by Earnhardt's children Dale and Kelley, mentioned that the flag's implications made her uncomfortable.

Earnhardt immediately went out to his truck and sliced off the rebel flag. The motto remained; the flag itself was trashed.

"He didn't want to offend anybody or make anybody mad in that manner," said Kelley Earnhardt Miller, telling the story on her "Fast Lane Family" podcast. "He had a good heart."


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Today on Speedway Blvd which runs right outside track:
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I knew there was a reason I was never a nascar fan. :coffee:
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:22 pm I knew there was a reason I was never a nascar fan. :coffee:
They are finally kicking the Klan out of NASCAR.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:34 pm Today on Speedway Blvd which runs right outside track:
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Idiots. " I love America. 'Merica! 'Merica all day every day!! I love 'Merica so much i'm gonna fly the flag of a people who violently took up arms against America. 'MERICA!"

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SDHornet wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:22 pm I knew there was a reason I was never a nascar fan. :coffee:
What..you don't enjoy watching a bunch of Ricky Bobby's see who can do 500 circles the fastest?
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Well when NASCAR DOES start letting fans back in it might be a moot point. Lol.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:27 pm Well when NASCAR DOES start letting fans back in it might be a moot point. Lol.
Dover used to draw 135,000 (max capacity) in the stands and another 30K or so in the infield on race weekends. They have since removed over 80,000 seats and still can't sellout. They just gave one of their two race dates up to Nashville Speedway.

NASCAR has been steadily declining for about 15 years. Recent events are simply helping to accelerate the decline.
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93henfan wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:54 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:27 pm Well when NASCAR DOES start letting fans back in it might be a moot point. Lol.
Dover used to draw 135,000 (max capacity) in the stands and another 30K or so in the infield on race weekends. They have since removed over 80,000 seats and still can't sellout. They just gave one of their two race dates up to Nashville Speedway.

NASCAR has been steadily declining for about 15 years. Recent events are simply helping to accelerate the decline.
I think you place too much importance on attendance; attendance for most leagues (except maybe MLS) is on the decline.

NASCAR's focus should be growing the streaming experience, which they're doing successfully. That and data analytics is where future money lies. Additionally the car manufacturers, sponsors, networks, and advertisers have been pressuring NASCAR for years to make the sport more inclusive and they likely had a lot to say regarding the rebel flag. Do you think companies today want their brands tied to stuff like that?

Those guys are worth way more money than ticket sales ever will be.
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93henfan wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:54 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:27 pm Well when NASCAR DOES start letting fans back in it might be a moot point. Lol.
Dover used to draw 135,000 (max capacity) in the stands and another 30K or so in the infield on race weekends. They have since removed over 80,000 seats and still can't sellout. They just gave one of their two race dates up to Nashville Speedway.

NASCAR has been steadily declining for about 15 years. Recent events are simply helping to accelerate the decline.
Yep. These last few years more and more teams have struggled to get sponsors for a whole season. Tracks are struggling with dwindling ticket sales. And all of NASCAR is going to take a HUGE economic hit & have a major economic reset after 2024 when their current 10 season TV deal (8.2 billion with Fox & NBC expires).
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∞∞∞ wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:31 pm
93henfan wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:54 pm

Dover used to draw 135,000 (max capacity) in the stands and another 30K or so in the infield on race weekends. They have since removed over 80,000 seats and still can't sellout. They just gave one of their two race dates up to Nashville Speedway.

NASCAR has been steadily declining for about 15 years. Recent events are simply helping to accelerate the decline.
I think you place too much importance on attendance; attendance for most leagues (except maybe MLS) is on the decline.

NASCAR's focus should be growing the streaming experience, which they're doing successfully. That and data analytics is where future money lies. Additionally the car manufacturers, sponsors, networks, and advertisers have been pressuring NASCAR for years to make the sport more inclusive and they likely had a lot to say regarding the rebel flag. Do you think companies today want their brands tied to stuff like that?

Those guys are worth way more money than ticket sales ever will be.
You really do not know how NASCAR works. Shocking...:coffee:
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