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Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:49 am
by 89Hen
Wow, this would never fly in the US on a number of levels. Fan's cell phone rings in the middle of a player's swing and the player immediately turns around gives the guy the finger and then pelts his driver into the ground.
That would probably get you a fine in the US. It got this golfer a three year ban from the KPGA.
Did I mention he is the current money leader on tour?
The second thing you'd never see is he went in front of the press and literally got on his knees to apologize.
And BTW, after the horrible tee shot he ended up hitting a massive second shot to the par four and making birdie. Dude should be given an award, not a suspension.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/27 ... sture-fans
The Korean Tour has suspended current money leader Bio Kim for three years after he made an obscene gesture to fans during the final round of a tournament this past weekend.
Holding a one-shot lead on the 16th hole of the DGB Financial Group Volvik Daegu Gyeongbuk Open in Gumi, South Korea, Kim reacted angrily after a cellphone camera went off during his downswing. His drive ended up going about 100 yards, according to the Korea Herald.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:06 pm
by GannonFan
Why did the cellphone camera make a noise? I thought Korea was supposed to have the most advanced cell phones out there?
Oh, and golfers needing absolute quiet is and has always been silly. Maybe we should just have some white noise at each tee box so they get used to some background noise and then won't be distracted by the tiny sound of a cellphone camera shutter.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:51 pm
by SACCAT
GannonFan wrote:Why did the cellphone camera make a noise? I thought Korea was supposed to have the most advanced cell phones out there?
Oh, and golfers needing absolute quiet is and has always been silly. Maybe we should just have some white noise at each tee box so they get used to some background noise and then won't be distracted by the tiny sound of a cellphone camera shutter.
Funny story... At the Masters ( about 10ish years ago) I had some family friends that had their tickets permanently revoked because one of their cell phones went off during a PRACTICE round...
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:53 pm
by CID1990
This is a true story-
When golfing in Asia, you can identify the nationality of the foursome on the green ahead of you with about a 98% degree of confidence
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Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:43 pm
by UNI88
CID1990 wrote:This is a true story-
When golfing in Asia, you can identify the nationality of the foursome on the green ahead of you with about a 98% degree of confidence
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What are the "tells" of each nationality?
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:02 pm
by kalm
GannonFan wrote:Why did the cellphone camera make a noise? I thought Korea was supposed to have the most advanced cell phones out there?
Oh, and golfers needing absolute quiet is and has always been silly. Maybe we should just have some white noise at each tee box so they get used to some background noise and then won't be distracted by the tiny sound of a cellphone camera shutter.
Constant, consistent noise is fine. See The Waste Management. A sudden increase or outburst is distracting.
My dad who was my college golf coach my senior year always said you can break a club or beat it into the ground, just understand it’s a long walk home from Boise, ID to Cheney.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:09 pm
by UNI88
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:10 pm
by CID1990
UNI88 wrote:CID1990 wrote:This is a true story-
When golfing in Asia, you can identify the nationality of the foursome on the green ahead of you with about a 98% degree of confidence
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What are the "tells" of each nationality?
Japanese - the most painful people to play behind. They stand over every putt for forever. It is not unusual to see a PGA rulebook out and in use.
Koreans - like Americans. Generally faster than the others. Will get loud and fist bump on a good putt.
Vietnamese and Chinese - always buzzed if not drunk. Take forever because putting honors do not always line up with the Confucian sense of seniority. They will stand around and chat with each other on the green after all putts are finished.
Thais - generally businesslike on the greens, a little slower than Koreans. They are basically quieter Koreans.
BTW none of these groups will ever, EVER let you play through.
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Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:32 pm
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:UNI88 wrote:
What are the "tells" of each nationality?
Japanese - the most painful people to play behind. They stand over every putt for forever. It is not unusual to see a PGA rulebook out and in use.
Koreans - like Americans. Generally faster than the others. Will get loud and fist bump on a good putt.
Vietnamese and Chinese - always buzzed if not drunk. Take forever because putting honors do not always line up with the Confucian sense of seniority. They will stand around and chat with each other on the green after all putts are finished.
Thais - generally businesslike on the greens, a little slower than Koreans. They are basically quieter Koreans.
BTW none of these groups will ever, EVER let you play through.
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* USGA rulebook
(Or R&A)
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:45 pm
by CID1990
kalm wrote:CID1990 wrote:
Japanese - the most painful people to play behind. They stand over every putt for forever. It is not unusual to see a PGA rulebook out and in use.
Koreans - like Americans. Generally faster than the others. Will get loud and fist bump on a good putt.
Vietnamese and Chinese - always buzzed if not drunk. Take forever because putting honors do not always line up with the Confucian sense of seniority. They will stand around and chat with each other on the green after all putts are finished.
Thais - generally businesslike on the greens, a little slower than Koreans. They are basically quieter Koreans.
BTW none of these groups will ever, EVER let you play through.
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* USGA rulebook
(Or R&A)
Whatever, I wouldn’t know
Pull it out on the course with the types I play with and POOF goes your invite to the foursome
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Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:40 am
by 89Hen
GannonFan wrote:Oh, and golfers needing absolute quiet is and has always been silly. Maybe we should just have some white noise at each tee box so they get used to some background noise and then won't be distracted by the tiny sound of a cellphone camera shutter.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:15 am
by CAA Flagship
He gave the middle finger?
How do you say "fuck you" in Korean? Is it "fuk yu"?
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:28 am
by GannonFan
89Hen wrote:GannonFan wrote:Oh, and golfers needing absolute quiet is and has always been silly. Maybe we should just have some white noise at each tee box so they get used to some background noise and then won't be distracted by the tiny sound of a cellphone camera shutter.
Golfers and their fans are their own little world of weird. Fans waiting breathlessly by their phones so they can call in when they spot a tiny infraction is part of it. Kalm's point above is fine, of course a sudden noise when things are at one noise level is one thing, but I've heard a cell phone photo shutter sound, if that's causing a miss hit then that's something else. I take it shouting "Noonan" is also frowned upon?
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:43 am
by 89Hen
There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:17 am
by UNI88
89Hen wrote:There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:25 am
by 89Hen
UNI88 wrote:89Hen wrote:There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
IMO yes. And as kalm said, if it were constant noise, the focus can be done.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:28 am
by 89Hen
UNI88 wrote:89Hen wrote:There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
BTW
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:30 am
by UNI88
89Hen wrote:UNI88 wrote:
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
IMO yes. And as kalm said, if it were constant noise, the focus can be done.
Why? Because it absolutely does require more focus or because the culture is different - basketball players and kickers expect the noise and the good ones can handle it and golfers don't expect it so even the good ones can't handle it?
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:35 am
by kalm
UNI88 wrote:89Hen wrote:There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
Yes.
There's been a long ongoing argument on which is more difficult, executing a challenging golf shot under pressure or hitting a 95 mph fastball (round bat, round ball). These are supposedly the two toughest things to do in sports. I played golf last week with a former AAA pitcher who's become a golf fanatic and he thinks golf a golf shot is harder to execute and requires more focus.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:38 am
by 89Hen
UNI88 wrote:89Hen wrote:
IMO yes. And as kalm said, if it were constant noise, the focus can be done.
Why? Because it absolutely does require more focus or because the culture is different - basketball players and kickers expect the noise and the good ones can handle it and golfers don't expect it so even the good ones can't handle it?
IMO it's far more exacting because of the incredible variables.
For the free throw example: every basket is 10.0', every free throw line is 15.0', the court is level, there is no wind or rain... it's simply a repetitive motion for which there should be no thinking necessary. I get the pressure aspect of it, but let's call that even for all three sports (even though in basketball your team can grab the rebound and get one more point than if you made it).
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:40 am
by UNI88
kalm wrote:UNI88 wrote:
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
Yes.
There's been a long ongoing argument on which is more difficult, executing a challenging golf shot under pressure or hitting a 95 mph fastball (round bat, round ball). These are supposedly the two toughest things to do in sports. I played golf last week with a former AAA pitcher who's become a golf fanatic and he thinks golf a golf shot is harder to execute and requires more focus.
See my question above.
I have a significantly better chance of hitting a great golf shot than I do of hitting a 95 mph fastball.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:48 am
by 89Hen
UNI88 wrote:kalm wrote:
Yes.
There's been a long ongoing argument on which is more difficult, executing a challenging golf shot under pressure or hitting a 95 mph fastball (round bat, round ball). These are supposedly the two toughest things to do in sports. I played golf last week with a former AAA pitcher who's become a golf fanatic and he thinks golf a golf shot is harder to execute and requires more focus.
See my question above.
I have a significantly better chance of hitting a great golf shot than I do of hitting a 95 mph fastball.
"A" being the key word.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:54 am
by SunCoastBlueHen
kalm wrote:UNI88 wrote:
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
Yes.
There's been a long ongoing argument on which is more difficult, executing a challenging golf shot under pressure or hitting a 95 mph fastball (round bat, round ball). These are supposedly the two toughest things to do in sports. I played golf last week with a former AAA pitcher who's become a golf fanatic and he thinks golf a golf shot is harder to execute and requires more focus.
I think after a few at bats you would likely disagree with him.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:59 am
by dbackjon
UNI88 wrote:89Hen wrote:There is no other sport where the fans are as close to the action. I don't believe there is another sport where it it so quiet at the moment leading up to the action. There aren't many sports that require the focus that golf requires. So yeah, it is different than any other sport. Sorry it bothers you.
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
Or trying to hit a 98 MPH fast ball?
At least a golf ball is stationary.
Re: Korean PGA Ban
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:02 am
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:UNI88 wrote:
Does striking a golf ball require more focus than shooting a free throw and or kicking a FG/XP?
Or trying to hit a 98 MPH fast ball?
At least a golf ball is stationary.
Non sequitur.
