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In all of the debatable moments in the history of First Take, this is one of the most debatable. Weekend First Take "star" Rob Parker offered bizarre commentary about Washington Redskins QB Robert Griffin III that is unbelievable even by Rob Parker's standards. It all started because of a First Take debate on quotes RGIII gave USA Today about not having to be defined by his race.

Parker began the discussion on RGIII's comments and floated the question asking if RGIII was "a brother or a cornball brother." Parker then threw out speculation and questioned RGIII for being a Republican and having a white fiance. After a question from Skip Bayless, Parker then affirmed RGIII was a "brother" because he wore braids. Stephen A. Smith came on directly after Parker and appeared as the voice of reason, saying "I'm uncomfortable with where we just went. RGIII, the ethnicity, the color of his fiance is none of our business, it's irrelevant, he can live his life any way he chooses... I don't judge someone's blackness based on those types of things."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl5sHu_cvDA[/youtube]

Stephen A. Smith as the "voice of reason"?!?

If that's where ESPN is heading, turn it off NOW. They made a HUGE mistake when they let Dana Jacobson get away from Cold Pizza/First Take....

Do black men EVER get tired of morons like Rob Parker speaking for their entire race?

SuperHornet wrote:Stephen A. Smith as the "voice of reason"?!?

Biggest racist in America.

grizzaholic wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Stephen A. Smith as the "voice of reason"?!?

Biggest racist in America.

Its amazing that black ppl are being labeled as racist in the USA.And you have ppl like Rush Limbaugh spewing out garbage on his radio program everyday.

dal4018 wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Biggest racist in America.

Its amazing that black ppl are being labeled as racist in the USA.And you have ppl like Rush Limbaugh spewing out garbage on his radio program everyday.

Black people are racist.


Do you really believe that only white people are racist?

AZGrizFan wrote:Do black men EVER get tired of morons like Rob Parker speaking for their entire race?

He has a right to his point of view whether you agree with it or not.When and if RGIII has altercation with law enforcement they will remind him of who he is.

clenz wrote:

dal4018 wrote:Its amazing that black ppl are being labeled as racist in the USA.And you have ppl like Rush Limbaugh spewing out garbage on his radio program everyday.

Black people are racist.


Do you really believe that only white people are racist?

If we are then we had over three hundred yrs of teaching forced own our throats.

dal4018 wrote:

clenz wrote: Black people are racist.


Do you really believe that only white people are racist?

If we are then we had over three hundred yrs of teaching forced own our throats.

Three hundred?

dal4018 wrote:

clenz wrote: Black people are racist.


Do you really believe that only white people are racist?

If we are then we had over three hundred yrs of teaching forced own our throats.

You ,really ar,e a fuc,king moron a,rent' ,you?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

dal4018 wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Biggest racist in America.

Its amazing that black ppl are being labeled as racist in the USA.And you have ppl like Rush Limbaugh spewing out garbage on his radio program everyday.

Are you implying blacks can't be racist? If so, then that is racist.

dal4018 wrote:

clenz wrote: Black people are racist.


Do you really believe that only white people are racist?

If we are then we had over three hundred yrs of teaching forced own our throats.

I'm calling bullshit. You were never a slave. Your parents and Grandparents were never slaves. You live in one of the greatest countries and have many avenues of success offered to you. This has nothing to do with white people. Slavery ended 147 years ago. GET OVER IT! You don't see Native Americans still bitching about the Trail of Tears or ANY OTHER IMMIGRANT GROUP bitching about the mistreatment of their people in the 1800's.

As soon as you get out of this victim mindset, then MAYBE, race relations can improve. I'll be frank, you want to know why white people roll their eyes at people like you and never take you seriously? It's because people like you perpetuate the culture and idea that blacks are still victims of white slave masters and you guys are exempt from any responsibility wheather it be for your actions, lack of education, lack of ambition, etc.... Stop harping on the past, stop gauging the "blackness" of your fellow man, stop the gratuitous use of "ni&&er" and the MAYBE in a generation or two, race relations can be were they should be. It's the 21st century. GET OVER IT!

I charge you to find one interview or case where a white guy challenges the "whiteness" of another. Or an Indian challenges the "Native American-ness" of another, etc... You won't.

clenz wrote:

dal4018 wrote:If we are then we had over three hundred yrs of teaching forced own our throats.

You ,really ar,e a fuc,king moron a,rent' ,you?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Gratuitous use of the comma.

I slept with a black girl for a while, does that mean I am not really white?

Um, slavery did NOT end 147 years ago. The legal INSTUTION of American slavery did, but slavery still exists around the world, and there are people of EVERY racial and ethnic persuasion caught up in it, Mark.

Additionally, have you forgotten about the unfortunate indentured servitude contracts that got many white people over to what because the good ol' USA? Not much removed from slavery, though they usually got what were considered cushy "house" jobs as opposed to field labor jobs. No wages (or very low wages), and a supposedly time-limited contract that could be extended at an owner's whim. Yes, white people dealt with the trash, too.

Talking about slavery in the South? Where's citdog when you need him?

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SuperHornet wrote:Um, slavery did NOT end 147 years ago.

Has it been that long since the Civil War? We're due for another one.

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dal4018 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Do black men EVER get tired of morons like Rob Parker speaking for their entire race?

He has a right to his point of view whether you agree with it or not.When and if RGIII has altercation with law enforcement they will remind him of who he is.

Really? Because large numbers of people are told constantly in this country that THEY don't have a right to THEIR own opinion because the PC motherfuckers in this country "don't agree with it".

SuperHornet wrote:Um, slavery did NOT end 147 years ago. The legal INSTUTION of American slavery did, but slavery still exists around the world, and there are people of EVERY racial and ethnic persuasion caught up in it, Mark.

Additionally, have you forgotten about the unfortunate indentured servitude contracts that got many white people over to what because the good ol' USA? Not much removed from slavery, though they usually got what were considered cushy "house" jobs as opposed to field labor jobs. No wages (or very low wages), and a supposedly time-limited contract that could be extended at an owner's whim. Yes, white people dealt with the trash, too.

Goddamn, shut the fuck up!

I'm obviously talking about American slavery as that is what Dal is referring to. Slavery was abolished 147 years ago in America via the 13th Amendment. Dal is not talking about sex slaves in the Ukraine or human trafficking into Mexico he is talking about Africans being enslaved. Africans that he is suggesting that are his ancestors. However, indentured servitude was 95% of the time VOLUNTARY! Let me break it down for you:

Indentured Servant: These people were I.S. because they were repaying a debt like payment for travelling to the New World or payments owed. Now, some were kidnapped and shipped like slaves, however after these servants were freed easier than African slaves. Also, look at the trends. Indentured Servitude was very very small by the time the American Revolution began. An example of this would the stereotypical poor English, French, German person that wanted to go to the New World but couldn't afford it during the 17th and 18th Century. Ben Franklin and President Andrew Johnson were indentured servants. Just to be clear, i'm only talking about AMERICA. Not Australia, Russia, Africa, etc... Just the USA.

Slavery: These slaves were kidnapped (usually sold by other Africans) and shipped to various countries. They were only freed if the master freed them but they were forced to work forever. An example of this would the countless slaves that came over to America in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries.

You fail to comprehend anything, anyone ever writes and it gets on my damn nerves. This is like last week when you went on a tirade against the Army in WW2 only to admit that you didn't read the word "football" in my post. Actually, I know money is tight so here:

http://englishforeveryone.org/Topics/Re ... ension.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's free.
Jesus Christ. Casey, do yourself a favor and quit spending money on bullshit Divinity courses. Take that money and enroll at your local community college for some remedial English courses.

Spoiler: show

When I want to know about Winnie the Pooh, cats or female athletes I'll ask for your input until then, shut it. I'm immensely more qualified to discuss American history (especially American Slavery, the Revolution, Civil War and WW2).

YOUR God allowed this to happen.

DSUrocks07 wrote:Talking about slavery in the South? Where's citdog when you need him?

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We don't need him. He is twisted and shows the worst of the south. His whole, "the south will rise again" B.S. and calling slaves, servants is embarrassing.

Ibanez wrote:

DSUrocks07 wrote:Talking about slavery in the South? Where's citdog when you need him?

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We don't need him. He is twisted and shows the worst of the south. His whole, "the south will rise again" B.S. and calling slaves, servants is embarrassing.

Wait...didn't he go to The Citadel? And aren't they the butlers, doormen, and bell hops of the world?

grizzaholic wrote:

Ibanez wrote: We don't need him. He is twisted and shows the worst of the south. His whole, "the south will rise again" B.S. and calling slaves, servants is embarrassing.

Wait...didn't he go to The Citadel? And aren't they the butlers, doormen, and bell hops of the world?

The Citadel is a great school, he is a shitty representative of the school, Charleston and the South in General.

Ibanez wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Wait...didn't he go to The Citadel? And aren't they the butlers, doormen, and bell hops of the world?

The Citadel is a great school, he is a shitty representative of the school, Charleston and the South in General.

Ibanez wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Um, slavery did NOT end 147 years ago. The legal INSTUTION of American slavery did, but slavery still exists around the world, and there are people of EVERY racial and ethnic persuasion caught up in it, Mark.

Additionally, have you forgotten about the unfortunate indentured servitude contracts that got many white people over to what because the good ol' USA? Not much removed from slavery, though they usually got what were considered cushy "house" jobs as opposed to field labor jobs. No wages (or very low wages), and a supposedly time-limited contract that could be extended at an owner's whim. Yes, white people dealt with the trash, too.

Goddamn, shut the fuck up!

I'm obviously talking about American slavery as that is what Dal is referring to. Slavery was abolished 147 years ago in America via the 13th Amendment. Dal is not talking about sex slaves in the Ukraine or human trafficking into Mexico he is talking about Africans being enslaved. Africans that he is suggesting that are his ancestors. However, indentured servitude was 95% of the time VOLUNTARY! Let me break it down for you:

Indentured Servant: These people were I.S. because they were repaying a debt like payment for travelling to the New World or payments owed. Now, some were kidnapped and shipped like slaves, however after these servants were freed easier than African slaves. Also, look at the trends. Indentured Servitude was very very small by the time the American Revolution began. An example of this would the stereotypical poor English, French, German person that wanted to go to the New World but couldn't afford it during the 17th and 18th Century. Ben Franklin and President Andrew Johnson were indentured servants. Just to be clear, i'm only talking about AMERICA. Not Australia, Russia, Africa, etc... Just the USA.

Slavery: These slaves were kidnapped (usually sold by other Africans) and shipped to various countries. They were only freed if the master freed them but they were forced to work forever. An example of this would the countless slaves that came over to America in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries.

You fail to comprehend anything, anyone ever writes and it gets on my damn nerves. This is like last week when you went on a tirade against the Army in WW2 only to admit that you didn't read the word "football" in my post. Actually, I know money is tight so here:

http://englishforeveryone.org/Topics/Re ... ension.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's free.
Jesus Christ. Casey, do yourself a favor and quit spending money on bullshit Divinity courses. Take that money and enroll at your local community college for some remedial English courses.

Spoiler: show

When I want to know about Winnie the Pooh, cats or female athletes I'll ask for your input until then, shut it. I'm immensely more qualified to discuss American history (especially American Slavery, the Revolution, Civil War and WW2).

YOUR God allowed this to happen.

I've been saying this for well over a year, but keep getting told I'm wrong.


Timeafter time they shows just how ignorant he really is. I can't count how many times he has fine shit like that only to get totally shut the fuck down and them go "i missed that part"


Fucking christ....put down the story books and learn something of fucking use

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SACCAT wrote:I slept with a black girl for a while, does that mean I am not really white?

No that means you are white. Sleeping with white girl makes you black. unless you're RGIII