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Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:28 am
by Gil Dobie
Fangraph has Mauer's value at $25.2 million for the Twins. Below is his value per season according to Fangraph.
Joe Mauer Fangraph Link
Season Dollars
2004 Twins $3.7
2005 Twins $11.4
2006 Twins $23.1
2007 Twins $12.7
2008 Twins $26.6
2009 Twins $34.5
2010 Twins $21.0
2011 Twins $6.1
2012 Twins $21.2
2013 Twins $25.2
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:47 am
by dbackjon
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:47 am
by AZGrizFan
A fan, jon?
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:04 pm
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:
A fan, jon?
Yeah
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:12 am
by Gil Dobie
Sounds like he is on the list for September call-ups with Mauer's career in jeopardy.
MLB Link -- Joe Mauer continues to feel better after sustaining a concussion last week.
Mauer went on the disabled list Aug. 20 after he was a late scratch before the Twins played Detroit. The catcher is feeling better each day and is expected to feel well enough to meet with the media Thursday, Twins general manager Terry Ryan said.
Ryan also said Mauer would not travel to Arlington when the Twins take on the Rangers this weekend.
"He felt better today, so that helps the cause," Ryan said. "He was better today than he was yesterday. And he was better yesterday than he was the day before."
Mauer was at Target Field on Wednesday and was doing some light activity in the weight room.
"He was doing some exercises," Ryan said. "He's moving around in there. He's doing some stretches and stuff -- at least he's active and so forth, feeling a little better."
Teammate and good friend Justin Morneau shared some advice with Mauer after recovering from a concussion of his own in 2010.
"The only thing I told him is rest is the most important thing," Morneau said. "If you're not feeling good and you think you need to go lie down, then go do that. That's going to help you get better quicker. The more you try and fight through it like you would a sore hamstring or a sore elbow or something -- some things you can play with -- this isn't one of those things you play with, because the longer you put it off or the longer you try and wish it's not there, the longer its going to take to heal."
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:33 am
by UNI88
How do Pierzynski's career stats & results compare to Mauer's? Just curious since I believe the Twins dumped Pierzynski to make room for Mauer.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:59 am
by Gil Dobie
UNI88 wrote:How do Pierzynski's career stats & results compare to Mauer's? Just curious since I believe the Twins dumped Pierzynski to make room for Mauer.
Averages 16 homers .284 average, 73 RBI, best season was 2012, fangraph had him valued at 14.8 Million.
Mauer is 14 HR, .323 AVG and 87 RBI per full season average.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:11 pm
by UNI88
Gil Dobie wrote:UNI88 wrote:How do Pierzynski's career stats & results compare to Mauer's? Just curious since I believe the Twins dumped Pierzynski to make room for Mauer.
Averages 16 homers .284 average, 73 RBI, best season was 2012, fangraph had him valued at 14.8 Million.
Mauer is 14 HR, .323 AVG and 87 RBI per full season average.
That's the offensive comparison. How do they compare defensively? What about the intangibles? The White Sox don't win the World Series without Pierzynski.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:52 pm
by Gil Dobie
UNI88 wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
Averages 16 homers .284 average, 73 RBI, best season was 2012, fangraph had him valued at 14.8 Million.
Mauer is 14 HR, .323 AVG and 87 RBI per full season average.
That's the offensive comparison. How do they compare defensively? What about the intangibles? The White Sox don't win the World Series without Pierzynski.
The fangraph value uses offensive and defensive categories to calculate value and WAR. Using those, Mauer is around $10 million higher value.
Mauers WAR this year is 5.2, with best of 7.6, 3 Gold Gloves, .995 Fielding, .333 Caught Stealing, Career WAR 44.3
AJ's WAR is 1.7 with best of 4.2, .995 Fielding, .250 Caught Stealing, Career WAR 26.2
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:02 pm
by clenz
Mauer is head and shoulders above AJ is every single way...I challenge you to find one Twins fan that would take AJ over Mauer....
With Morneau being traded today it's possible Joe makes the move to first now if/when he comes back.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:58 am
by Gil Dobie
clenz wrote:Mauer is head and shoulders above AJ is every single way...I challenge you to find one Twins fan that would take AJ over Mauer....
With Morneau being traded today it's possible Joe makes the move to first now if/when he comes back.
There was a lot of talk prior to the trade, with Mauer's recent concussion and Parmelee's failure to perform, that Mauer maybe moved permanently to 1b. He won't be the power hitting first baseman, but he will be one of the best fielders at the position.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:58 pm
by UNI88
clenz wrote:Mauer is head and shoulders above AJ is every single way...I challenge you to find one Twins fan that would take AJ over Mauer....
With Morneau being traded today it's possible Joe makes the move to first now if/when he comes back.
White Sox fans might have a different opinion. AJ might not be as physically talented as Mauer but he definitely helps his teams win.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:06 pm
by clenz
He is a headache that can be "put up with" when the team us winning around him...I'm hearing quite a few complaints about him from Sox fans the last few years...re: now that they stopped winning
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Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:15 pm
by AZGrizFan
Mauer probably done for the season....twins mired in a 3-8 skid....life is good in the Twin Cities...
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:48 am
by AZGrizFan
Twinkies 2-8 in their last 10. Mauer officially shut down. 113 games this season....2nd lowest ever in his career.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:12 am
by Gil Dobie
AZGrizFan wrote:Twinkies 2-8 in their last 10. Mauer officially shut down. 113 games this season....2nd lowest ever in his career.
It took Morneau 2 years to get back to where he is, and that's not close to where he was prior to his concussion.
The Twins will have around $40 million to spend in the off-season. The most expensive single free agent is only worth about 7-10 wins in a season. If you don't spend the money, you need to have a farm system like St Louis. The Twins farms system has improved after Terry Ryan took over again, but Ryan will need to spend some of the Pohlad's money to get the club back in contention.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:28 am
by AZGrizFan
Gil Dobie wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:Twinkies 2-8 in their last 10. Mauer officially shut down. 113 games this season....2nd lowest ever in his career.
It took Morneau 2 years to get back to where he is, and that's not close to where he was prior to his concussion.
The Twins will have around $40 million to spend in the off-season. The most expensive single free agent is only worth about 7-10 wins in a season. If you don't spend the money, you need to have a farm system like St Louis. The Twins farms system has improved after Terry Ryan took over again, but Ryan will need to spend some of the Pohlad's money to get the club back in contention.
Well, getting rid of Morneau's salary was a good start in that direction.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:45 am
by Gil Dobie
AZGrizFan wrote:
Well, getting rid of Morneau's salary was a good start in that direction.
Well, then they have $50 million to spend. They had money to spend this year too, but didn't spend much or wisely. Josh Willingham was their biggest free agent signing ever, at 3 year $21 million.
2012-13 Twins FA Signings - Ones in Bold played in the Majors 2013.
229 P.J. Walters
230 Tim Wood
231 Eric Fryer
232 Jeff Clement
233 Lester Oliveros
234 Brandon Boggs
235 Bryan Augenstein
236 Ray Olmedo
237 Mike O'Connor
238 Clete Thomas
239 Scott Elarton
240 Kevin Correia
241 Mike Pelfrey
242 Antoan Richardson
243 Doug Bernier
244 Rafael Perez
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:18 am
by clenz
The Twins and Joe officially announce a move to 1st base starting next season
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:05 am
by Gil Dobie
clenz wrote:The Twins and Joe officially announce a move to 1st base starting next season
Probably see a bump in his stats, but not his All-Star appearances. He should be a gold glove though.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:53 am
by AZGrizFan
Gil Dobie wrote:clenz wrote:The Twins and Joe officially announce a move to 1st base starting next season
Probably see a bump in his stats, but not his All-Star appearances. He should be a gold glove though.
He's gonna become a power hitter?
Maybe they should move him to SS or 2B. His numbers are more representative of a middle-infielder from the Dominican.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:14 pm
by Gil Dobie
AZGrizFan wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
Probably see a bump in his stats, but not his All-Star appearances. He should be a gold glove though.
He's gonna become a power hitter?
Maybe they should move him to SS or 2B. His numbers are more representative of a middle-infielder from the Dominican.
When I think of SS or 2b, I think of .225 1 HR and 36 RBI. Mauer averages out to 14 HR 87 RBI and .323 average and I could see them going up to the 20 HR, 100 RBI and .330 avg. range.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:33 pm
by clenz
It's amazing how much healthier and stronger and more consistant you can be as a hitter when you aren't behind the plate 100+ times each season.
That's killer on a body. It's why you almost never see catchers that are great behind and at the plate.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:40 pm
by AZGrizFan
Gil Dobie wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
He's gonna become a power hitter?
Maybe they should move him to SS or 2B. His numbers are more representative of a middle-infielder from the Dominican.
When I think of SS or 2b, I think of .225 1 HR and 36 RBI. Mauer averages out to 14 HR 87 RBI and .323 average and I could see them going up to the 20 HR, 100 RBI and .330 avg. range.
Joe Mauer has hit 14 HR exactly ONCE in his career. In fact, in 9 full seasons he's hit more than 13 only TWICE. 105 career HR's and 28 of those came in one steroid infused year.
Re: Hey, DJH....(The Joe Mauer Memorial Thread)
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:48 pm
by Gil Dobie
AZGrizFan wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
When I think of SS or 2b, I think of .225 1 HR and 36 RBI. Mauer averages out to 14 HR 87 RBI and .323 average and I could see them going up to the 20 HR, 100 RBI and .330 avg. range.
Joe Mauer has hit 14 HR exactly ONCE in his career. In fact, in 9 full seasons he's hit more than 13 only TWICE. 105 career HR's and 28 of those came in one steroid infused year.
Mauer has never played a full season as catcher. The 14 HR is what he averages per 162 games during his 10 year career.
