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    NAU 62-69 EWU; Eastern wins their 10th. straight over NAU
    PSU 79-68 IDA; The Vikings have an average turnover margin of +9.9 over the last 11 games :shock:
    SUU 79-71 ISU; The T-Birds took a 37-15 lead and went on cruise control from there
    UNC 75-66 UMT; The Bears have now won 4 of the last 5 meetings in Missoula
    SAC 69-75 MSU; The Bobcats clinch the outright title and set a DI-era school record with 23 wins
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Mid-Week 11 Men's Standings

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      1. Montana State _______15-4_____23-7_____ W2
      2. Northern Colorado___13-6_____18-13____ W2
      3. Weber State__________13-6_____20-10____ W1
      4. Southern Utah _______13-6_____19-10____ W1
      5. Montana _____________11-8_____18-12____ L1
      6. Eastern Washington__10-9_____16-14____ W1
      7. Portland State________10-9_____12-15____ W4
      8. Northern Arizona _____5-14_____9-21____ L6
      9. Idaho _________________5-14_____8-21____ L3
      10.Sacramento State _____5-14_____9-17____ L1
      11.Idaho State ___________5-15_____7-22____ L2



      Montana State has clinched the #1 seed.
      NoCo will get the #2 seed with a win (they swept SUU, and they would get a sweep over MSU to win common games over Weber).
      Whoever wins SUU/WEB will get either #2 or #3 depending on what NoCo does.
      Whoever loses SUU/WEB will get the #4 seed.
      Montana has clinched the #5 seed.
      Whoever wins PSU/EWU will get #6, while the loser gets #7.
      Whoever wins NAU/IDA will play in the 8/9 game.
      If NAU beats Idaho, then the bottom 4 seeds will be set: NAU #8, SAC #9, ISU #10, IDA #11 (doesn't matter what Sac does).
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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Women - Idaho State Clinches Outright Title

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The Bengals backed into it, but they got bailed out by NoCo's upset of Montana State.

This also means Montana will have to beat Sac to get a bye (whoever wins gets it). NAU leads Idaho by 18 with ≈4:00 to go, so it looks like the 'Jacks will get the other bye.
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Re: Mid-Week 11 Men's Standings

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:39 am
    • Men

      1. Montana State _______15-4_____23-7_____ W2
      2. Northern Colorado___13-6_____18-13____ W2
      3. Weber State__________13-6_____20-10____ W1
      4. Southern Utah _______13-6_____19-10____ W1
      5. Montana _____________11-8_____18-12____ L1
      6. Eastern Washington__10-9_____16-14____ W1
      7. Portland State________10-9_____12-15____ W4
      8. Northern Arizona _____5-14_____9-21____ L6
      9. Idaho _________________5-14_____8-21____ L3
      10.Sacramento State _____5-14_____9-17____ L1
      11.Idaho State ___________5-15_____7-22____ L2



      Montana State has clinched the #1 seed.
      NoCo will get the #2 seed with a win (they swept SUU, and they would get a sweep over MSU to win common games over Weber).
      Whoever wins SUU/WEB will get either #2 or #3 depending on what NoCo does.
      Whoever loses SUU/WEB will get the #4 seed.
      Montana has clinched the #5 seed.
      Whoever wins PSU/EWU will get #6, while the loser gets #7.
      Whoever wins NAU/IDA will play in the 8/9 game.
      If NAU beats Idaho, then the bottom 4 seeds will be set: NAU #8, SAC #9, ISU #10, IDA #11 (doesn't matter what Sac does).
Sac gets 8 if they upset the Griz and NAU loses. Idaho losing is the ONLY way ISU gets out of the cellar. That said, NAU is in the driver's seat for 8 because they're 4-1 against the Bottom Four. Sac at 3-3 would be better off if they were playing anyone further down the totem pole than the Griz. We benefit with the upset, but it's probably not likely to happen. Idaho's 1-4 mark against the Bottom Four is what makes their game against NAU so huge: Idaho HAS to win, or they're in the cellar. ISU has no voice because their season is done; they're either in the cellar or they're bailed out by an NAU choke job, which I also don't think is likely. Sac CAN'T finish in the cellar because they're 2-0 against ISU.

A really complicated mess, right?
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    EWU 68-50 PSU; Portland State becomes the second Big Sky women's team to go 0-20 in conference (Weber, 2012-13)
    UMT 59-53 SAC; Sophia Stiles scores a career-high 29 and makes 13 of her team's 25 field goals
    WEB 65-75 SUU; Southern Utah wins consecutive games for the first time since January
    IDA 69-86 NAU; The Vandals shoot 24% in the second half and see their 6-game winning streak end in a thud
    MSU 63-71 UNC; Darian White went off with 32 points, 8 boards, and 5 steals, but her teammates shot just 22% from the field
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Final Women's Regular-Season Standings

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      1. Idaho State __________15-5_____19-10____ L1
      2. Montana State _______14-6_____19-12____ L1
      3. Southern Utah _______14-6_____18-11____ W2
      4. Northern Arizona ____12-8_____15-13____ W3
      5. Montana _____________12-8_____19-10____ W1
      6. Idaho ________________11-9_____12-17____ L1
      7. Sacramento State ____10-10____14-15____ L2
      8. Northern Colorado____9-11____13-15____ W2
      9. Eastern Washington___7-13_____9-20____ W1
      10.Weber State___________6-14____10-19____ L2
      11.Portland State_________0-20_____5-23____ L21/L18
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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I guess MSU DID get into NFL pre-playoff mode. They BARELY held off UNC....

EWU d. PSU 83-75.
Idalol d. NAU 78-69 :doh:
MT State d. UNC 87-85
SUU leads BBQ 14-8 12:06 1H
Sac at Montana 1800 PST

This means (so far):

1. MSU
2. SUU/BBQ winner
3. UNC
4. SUU/BBQ loser
5. UM
6. EWU
7. PSU
8-11. Who knows?

I think I have that right. Please correct me, Venus....
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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The MSU win took a buzzer beater....

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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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NoCo clinches the #3 seed.
The SUU/Weber winner will be #2, while the SUU/Weber loser will be #4.

Idaho has clinched the #8 seed (even if Sac wins, Idaho will win the tiebreaker on common games regardless of how SUU/WEB goes).
If Sac loses to Montana: #9 - NAU, #10 - SAC, #11 - ISU
If Sac beats Montana: #9 - SAC, #10 - ISU, #11 - NAU
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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I don't see that, Venus. If Sac loses to Montana, Idaho would get it based on 6-14 vs. 5-15. If Sac wins, Sac and Idaho would be tied at 6-14. Looking at common opponents, if Sac beats Montana (losing now), Sac would be 6-13, while Idaho is 5-14. That list of common opponents includes the double round robin of Big Sky games and Cal Poly. In fact, the difference is the Cal Poly game: Sac won, while Idaho lost. I see a Sac win putting Sac in 8.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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SuperHornet wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:36 pm I don't see that, Venus. If Sac loses to Montana, Idaho would get it based on 6-14 vs. 5-15. If Sac wins, Sac and Idaho would be tied at 6-14. Looking at common opponents, if Sac beats Montana (losing now), Sac would be 6-13, while Idaho is 5-14. That list of common opponents includes the double round robin of Big Sky games and Cal Poly. In fact, the difference is the Cal Poly game: Sac won, while Idaho lost. I see a Sac win putting Sac in 8.
If Sac wins (and they're up 5 with under 1:00 at this time), they & Idaho will both be 6-14.

Idaho wins the tiebreaker on common games against Portland State. Both teams were swept by MSU, both teams were swept by SUU, both teams went 1-3 against the UNC/WEB tie, both teams would go 2-2 against the UMT/EWU tie, but Idaho split with PSU while Sac was swept.
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And Sac beat Cal Poly while Idaho lost. That's a common game, too.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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Well, it's official. Sac beat the Griz 72-71.
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I just went through it all again. Totaling up the double round robin, Sac and Idaho are both 5-13. That leaves the common Cal Poly game, which Sac won and Idaho lost. That's the tiebreaker right there. Sac is 8, Idaho is 9....
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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They just announced it on FB. Sac is 8....

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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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SuperHornet wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:50 pm I just went through it all again. Totaling up the double round robin, Sac and Idaho are both 5-13. That leaves the common Cal Poly game, which Sac won and Idaho lost. That's the tiebreaker right there. Sac is 8, Idaho is 9....
That doesn't make any sense, though. The common games comparison starts at the top of the standings and works its way down.

The only reason I can see that Sac would win the tiebreaker is that they broke the UNC/WEB tie first (Sac split with UNC). I thought they were supposed to look at common games against other ties collectively.

Of course, I can't find a Big Sky tiebreaking procedure that's more recent than several years ago online anywhere. :evil:
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    PSU 75-83 EWU; Linton Acliese & Angelo Allegri both score 27 and both get double-doubles
    NAU 69-78 IDA; Jalen Cone scored 35, but the rest of the Lumberjacks shot just 31%
    SUU 80-70 WEB; After quickly blowing an 8-point lead, the T-Birds went on a 20-6 run to seize control late
    SAC 72-71 UMT; Bryce Fowler scores a career-high 39 and crosses the 1500-point mark for his career
    UNC 85-87 MSU; RaeQuan battle drills a buzzer-beater (see above) after NoCo had scored 5 straight points in less than 15 seconds
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Final Men's Regular-Season Standings

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      1. Montana State _______16-4_____24-7_____ W3
      2. Southern Utah _______14-6_____20-10____ W2
      3. Northern Colorado___13-7_____18-14____ L1
      4. Weber State__________13-7_____20-11____ L1
      5. Montana _____________11-9_____18-13____ L2
      6. Eastern Washington__11-9_____17-14____ W2
      7. Portland State________10-10____12-16____ L1
      8. Sacramento State _____6-14____10-17____ W1
      9. Idaho _________________6-14_____9-21____ W1
      10.Idaho State ___________5-15_____7-22____ L2
      11.Northern Arizona _____5-15_____9-22____ L7
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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I'm sorry for arguing so hard with you, Venus. You're a great guy. I just had to fight for my team, though....
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2021-22

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SuperHornet wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:48 pm I'm sorry for arguing so hard with you, Venus. You're a great guy. I just had to fight for my team, though....
No problem here (and who gets #8 vs. #9 doesn't really matter). I'm just confused as to why Sac is #8 since that doesn't fit the tiebreaking procedure I'm familiar with, and I can't find a really recent one on the Big Sky site anywhere.
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Big Sky POTW - Week 17

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Men

Bryce Fowler (SAC) - 27 ppg, 4 apg, 53% on FGs, 11/11 on FTs (2 games)


Women

Beyonce Bea (IDA) - 26.5 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 60% on FGs (32 games)




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Seton Sobolewski Wins WBB Coach of the Year

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I would've voted for Tracy Sanders (SUU), but it wasn't an obvious choice this year.

This is Sobolewski's 3rd. Big Sky COTY Honor.


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Re: Big Sky POTW - Week 17

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:14 pm Men

Bryce Fowler (SAC) - 27 ppg, 4 apg, 53% on FGs, 11/11 on FTs (2 games)


Women

Beyonce Bea (IDA) - 26.5 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 60% on FGs (32 games)




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65% FT shooter decides to go 11/11, obviously perfect against the Griz. Dude was completely zoned in Saturday night....literally everything he threw up there went in.
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WBB All-Conference Teams & Awards

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I guess they've just completely thrown out the idea of a conference champion/contender getting MVP now. I don't even think Tillman was the MVP for Sac State, to be honest. Also… it's weird that Tillman won MVP, but Natabou won Newcomer when they were both newcomers. :?

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Awards

MVP - Lianna Tillman (SAC)
Newcomer - Isnelle Natabou (SAC)
Freshman - Jaydia Martin (EWU)
Defense - Darian White (MSU), Tomekia Whitman (ISU)
Reserve - Louise Forsyth (IDA)



1st. Team All-Conference

F - Beyonce Bea (IDA)
F - Carmen Gfeller (UMT)
G - Darian White (MSU)
G - Lianna Tillman (SAC)
G - Tomekia Whitman (ISU)


2nd. Team

F - Daryn Hickok (WEB)
C - Isnelle Natabou (SAC)
G - Estefania Ors (ISU)
G - Sophia Stiles (UMT)
G - Hannah Simental (UNC)


3rd. Team

F - Kola Bad Bear (MSU)
F - Darri (Frandsen) Dotson (SUU)
F - Kurstyn Harden (UNC)
G - Jacinta Buckley (EWU)
G - Diaba Konate (ISU)
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