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Re: Big Sky Standings - One Week Left

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 am
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      1. Montana _____________14-4_____18-11____ W1
      2. Eastern Washington__14-4_____21-8_____ W5
      3. Northern Colorado___13-5_____20-9_____ L1
      4. Portland State________10-8_____16-14____ W4
      5. Northern Arizona ____10-9_____16-12____ L1
      6. Montana State ________9-9_____15-14____ W1
      7. Southern Utah ________8-10____15-14____ W1
      8. Sacramento State _____8-11____15-13____ L1
      9. Weber State___________7-10____11-17____ L1
      10.Idaho State ___________3-14_____6-20____ L12
      11.Idaho _________________3-15_____7-22____ L5


      The winner of Thursday's NAU/PSU game will clinch a bye.


Sometimes I think if we were drowning, the Griz would rather drive the boat on top of us instead of helping us out. :nod:

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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:17 pm I kinda feel sorry for Bunky Harkleroad at Sac (WBB). He's probably going to get fired at the end of the year, two seniors—Kennedy Nicholas & Gabi Bade—are out with injuries, and their other senior—grad transfer Camariah King—just broke her hand in Missoula today. :ohno:
Meh, they weren't very good with them in the lineup.

If Katz is extended (I give it a 50/50) then I think they fire Bunky. If they don't extend Katz, Bunky stays around for his final contract year. I don't see us doing two BBall coaching searches/hires in the same year.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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SuperHornet wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:44 pm SD: Before the season started, would you have posited that the Sac men would do better vs. BSC than the Sac women? That seems to be what's playing out....
I'm not sure. I didn't expect MBB to go 7-2 in non-con play, but I also didn't expect them to get ran off the court by 15 points in BSC road games. I thought WBB would have done a little better than what we have been seeing.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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SDHornet wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:34 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:17 pm I kinda feel sorry for Bunky Harkleroad at Sac (WBB). He's probably going to get fired at the end of the year, two seniors—Kennedy Nicholas & Gabi Bade—are out with injuries, and their other senior—grad transfer Camariah King—just broke her hand in Missoula today. :ohno:
Meh, they weren't very good with them in the lineup.

If Katz is extended (I give it a 50/50) then I think they fire Bunky. If they don't extend Katz, Bunky stays around for his final contract year. I don't see us doing two BBall coaching searches/hires in the same year.
No, they weren't real good, but they were doing well enough in conference to likely save Harkleroad's job for another year.

My guess is they keep Katz & can Harkleroad. With Nicholas, Bade, and King graduating, Bunky would likely be a lame duck next year anyway. There have also been news stories the last couple years about a questionable environment surrounding Harkleroad's program. They don't specify what the exact problem is (too harsh? not harsh enough?), but I'm sure those don't help his chances.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:42 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:34 pm

Meh, they weren't very good with them in the lineup.

If Katz is extended (I give it a 50/50) then I think they fire Bunky. If they don't extend Katz, Bunky stays around for his final contract year. I don't see us doing two BBall coaching searches/hires in the same year.
No, they weren't real good, but they were doing well enough in conference to likely save Harkleroad's job for another year.

My guess is they keep Katz & can Harkleroad. With Nicholas, Bade, and King graduating, Bunky would likely be a lame duck next year anyway. There have also been news stories the last couple years about a questionable environment surrounding Harkleroad's program. They don't specify what the exact problem is (too harsh? not harsh enough?), but I'm sure those don't help his chances.
I've heard Bunky has another year left after this one. One problem with Bunky is he never went out and hired any assistant coaches with D1 experience and I think that crippled him in recruiting. I think it is more of he and his staff not knowing what D1 talent looks like on the recruiting trail.

I think Katz can coach his way into an extension. Another win (we should see another win, right? :? ) give him a winning record for only the 2nd time in the D1 era. The more I think of it the more I think it plays out similarly to Sears on the FB front. Sears was all but done but somehow pulled out that magical 2017 season in his contract year. Orr gives him a short extension (and a short leash) knowing he wouldn't last long once he regressed back to the mean. I could see something similar for Katz happen wrt the contract situation.
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    ISU 78-70 WEB; Malik Porter scores 21 off the bench to help the Bengals end their 12-game losing streak
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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Wow. wtf happened to Weebs?!?!
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POTW - Week 17

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Men

Mason Peatling (EWU) - 18.5 ppg, 10 rpg, 3 apg, 2 bpg, 55% on FGs (2 games)


Women

Alisha Davis (UNC) - 19 ppg, 9 rpg, 3 bpg, 3 spg, 2 apg, 59% on FGs (2 games)




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Re: Big Sky Standings - One Week Left

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JALMOND wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:00 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:55 am
    • Men

      1. Montana _____________14-4_____18-11____ W1
      2. Eastern Washington__14-4_____21-8_____ W5
      3. Northern Colorado___13-5_____20-9_____ L1
      4. Portland State________10-8_____16-14____ W4
      5. Northern Arizona ____10-9_____16-12____ L1
      6. Montana State ________9-9_____15-14____ W1
      7. Southern Utah ________8-10____15-14____ W1
      8. Sacramento State _____8-11____15-13____ L1
      9. Weber State___________7-10____11-17____ L1
      10.Idaho State ___________3-14_____6-20____ L12
      11.Idaho _________________3-15_____7-22____ L5


      The winner of Thursday's NAU/PSU game will clinch a bye.


Sometimes I think if we were drowning, the Griz would rather drive the boat on top of us instead of helping us out. :nod:

:lol:


I didn’t feel that way until after that last PSU game. :coffee:
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    EWU 49-77 ISU; Bengals win points-off-turnovers 21-2
    MSU 81-65 SUU; The Bobcats shoot 75% in the second half to help end Suutah's bye hopes.
    IDA 91-57 WEB; All twelve Vandals who played scored
    PSU 68-63 NAU; The 'Jacks finish fifth after they were in second just 1.5 weeks ago
    UMT 70-55 UNC; The Lady Griz clinch a bye in part thanks to 61% shooting by their guards
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Women's Standings: Mid-Week 11

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    • Women

      1. Montana State _______18-1_____22-6_____ W14
      2. Idaho ________________14-5_____19-9_____ W4
      3. Idaho State __________13-6_____17-11____ W5
      4. Montana _____________12-7_____17-11____ W3
      5. Northern Arizona ____12-8_____15-14____ L3
      6. Southern Utah _______10-9_____16-12____ L2
      7. Northern Colorado____8-11____12-16____ L1
      8. Portland State_________8-11____14-15____ W2
      9. Sacramento State _____6-13_____8-20____ L5
      10.Eastern Washington___3-16_____4-24____ L4
      11.Weber State___________1-18_____3-25____ L15


      All the seeds have been clinched except for #7 and #8.
      NoCo has the tiebreaker on PSU, but NoCo has the much tougher game Friday.
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Re: Women's Standings: Mid-Week 11

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:26 am
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      1. Montana State _______18-1_____22-6_____ W14
      2. Idaho ________________14-5_____19-9_____ W4
      3. Idaho State __________13-6_____17-11____ W5
      4. Montana _____________12-7_____17-11____ W3
      5. Northern Arizona ____12-8_____15-14____ L3
      6. Southern Utah _______10-9_____16-12____ L2
      7. Northern Colorado____8-11____12-16____ L1
      8. Portland State_________8-11____14-15____ W2
      9. Sacramento State _____6-13_____8-20____ L5
      10.Eastern Washington___3-16_____4-24____ L4
      11.Weber State___________1-18_____3-25____ L15


      All the seeds have been clinched except for #7 and #8.
      NoCo has the tiebreaker on PSU, but NoCo has the much tougher game Friday.
You can throw out the records when the conference's two urban commuter schools go at it. :nod:

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    ISU 77-100 EWU; The Eagles shoot 62% in the second half and clinch a share of the title
    NAU 66-80 PSU; Cameron Shelton had 27 points, 6 boards, and 8 assists, but that still wasn't enough for the 'Jacks to get a bye
    WEB 72-64 IDA; Trevon Allen had 32, but again got little help
    UNC 71-64 UMT; The Griz lose to a DI team at home for the first time this season
    SUU 65-73 MSU; Jubrile Belo gets 25 points and 11 rebounds with most of his points coming from the line
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Men's Standings: Mid-Week 11

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      1. Eastern Washington__15-4_____22-8_____ W6
      2. Northern Colorado___14-5_____21-9_____ W1
      3. Montana _____________14-5_____18-12____ L1
      4. Portland State________11-8_____17-14____ W5
      5. Montana State _______10-9_____16-14____ W2
      6. Northern Arizona ____10-10____16-13____ L2
      7. Weber State___________8-11____12-18____ W1
      8. Sacramento State _____8-11____15-13____ L1
      9. Southern Utah ________8-11____15-15____ L1
      10.Idaho State ___________4-15_____7-21____ L1
      11.Idaho _________________3-16_____7-23____ L6


      The only way EWU won't be the #1-seed is if they lose, UM wins, and NoCo loses.
      EWU wins the possible 3-way tie because they swept both PSU & MSU.
      Montana can get the #1-seed while NoCo can't, but NoCo controls their own destiny for the #2-seed while Montana doesn't.
      PSU has clinched #4 and MSU has clinched #5, so they will play each other next Thursday regardless of what happens Saturday.
      NAU has clinched #6.
      Whoever wins Idaho/ISU gets #10, while the loser gets #11 (Idaho wins common games because they beat PSU once).
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Re: Men's Standings: Mid-Week 11

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:55 am
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      1. Eastern Washington__15-4_____22-8_____ W6
      2. Northern Colorado___14-5_____21-9_____ W1
      3. Montana _____________14-5_____18-12____ L1
      4. Portland State________11-8_____17-14____ W5
      5. Montana State _______10-9_____16-14____ W2
      6. Northern Arizona ____10-10____16-13____ L2
      7. Weber State___________8-11____12-18____ W1
      8. Sacramento State _____8-11____15-13____ L1
      9. Southern Utah ________8-11____15-15____ L1
      10.Idaho State ___________4-15_____7-21____ L1
      11.Idaho _________________3-16_____7-23____ L6


      The only way EWU won't be the #1-seed is if they lose, UM wins, and NoCo loses (EWU wins the 3-way tie because they swept both PSU & MSU).
      Montana can get the #1-seed while NoCo can't, but NoCo controls their own destiny for the #2-seed while Montana doesn't.
      PSU has clinched #4 and MSU has clinched #5, so they will play each other next Thursday regardless of what happens Saturday.
      NAU has clinched #6.
      Whoever wins Idaho/ISU gets #10, while the loser gets #11 (Idaho wins common games because they beat PSU once).
If EWU loses, NOCO loses and UM wins there won’t be a three way tie. There’ll be a 2=way tie. And in THAT scenario, Griz win the title because they swept EWU.
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Re: Men's Standings: Mid-Week 11

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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:43 am If EWU loses, NOCO loses and UM wins there won’t be a three way tie. There’ll be a 2=way tie. And in THAT scenario, Griz win the title because they swept EWU.
Exactly. The scenario I was initially describing wasn't the 3-way tie. I just put the other part in parentheses to point out why the 3-way tie goes to EWU. I'll make it a separate line…
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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Being that we clinched #4, maybe we can do some "load management" against Sac State. :roll:

Naw, it'd be better to go in the tournament on a 6-game win streak. :thumb:

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    PSU 91-68 SAC; Jordan Stotler just misses a triple-double with 16 points, 10 boards, and 8 blocks
    IDA 61-50 ISU; Jon Newlee sweeps his former team for the first time since rejoining the Big Sky
    UMT 81-84 SUU (OT); Lady Griz can't hold on despite shooting a season-high (vs. DI) 54%
    EWU 77-83 WEB (OT); Eastern overcame a 20-point deficit but then went 0/5 from the arc in overtime
    MSU 73-63 UNC; The Bobcats win the conference by 4 games, the first team to do so since Montana in 2007
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      1. Montana State _______19-1_____23-6_____ W15
      2. Idaho ________________15-5_____20-9_____ W5
      3. Idaho State __________13-7_____17-12____ L1
      4. Montana _____________12-8_____17-12____ L1
      5. Northern Arizona ____12-8_____15-14____ L3
      6. Southern Utah _______11-9_____17-12____ W1
      7. Portland State_________9-11____15-15____ W3
      8. Northern Colorado____8-12____12-17____ L2
      9. Sacramento State _____6-14_____8-21____ L6
      10.Eastern Washington___3-17_____4-25____ L5
      11.Weber State___________2-18_____4-25____ W1
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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So who wins the conference MVP for men?
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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kalm wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:38 pm So who wins the conference MVP for men?
It should be Radebaugh, IMO, but it'll likely be Peatling assuming EWU doesn't choke today.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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EWU beat Weber to clinch the outright title.
NoCo won in Bozeman to clinch the #2-seed. Montana is locked into #3 no matter what happens tonight.
Idaho beat ISU in the battle for the #10-seed.


What's left at stake…

SUU will clinch #7 with a win in Missoula, otherwise they'll be #9.
Sac will clinch #7 with a win in Portland and an SUU loss. They'll be #8 with a loss & an SUU loss or with a win & an SUU win. They'll be #9 with a loss & an SUU win.
Weber will be #7 if Sac & SUU both lose. They'll be #9 if Sac & SUU both win. They'll be #8 otherwise.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:21 pm EWU beat Weber to clinch the outright title.
NoCo won in Bozeman to clinch the #2-seed. Montana is locked into #3 no matter what happens tonight.
Idaho beat ISU in the battle for the #10-seed.


What's left at stake…

SUU will clinch #7 with a win in Missoula, otherwise they'll be #9.
Sac will clinch #7 with a win in Portland and an SUU loss. They'll be #8 with a loss & an SUU loss or with a win & an SUU win. They'll be #9 with a loss & an SUU win.
Weber will be #7 if Sac & SUU both lose. They'll be #9 if Sac & SUU both win. They'll be #8 otherwise.
Just for clarity, there's no difference between the 8th and 9th seed right?
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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SDHornet wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:25 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:21 pm EWU beat Weber to clinch the outright title.
NoCo won in Bozeman to clinch the #2-seed. Montana is locked into #3 no matter what happens tonight.
Idaho beat ISU in the battle for the #10-seed.


What's left at stake…

SUU will clinch #7 with a win in Missoula, otherwise they'll be #9.
Sac will clinch #7 with a win in Portland and an SUU loss. They'll be #8 with a loss & an SUU loss or with a win & an SUU win. They'll be #9 with a loss & an SUU win.
Weber will be #7 if Sac & SUU both lose. They'll be #9 if Sac & SUU both win. They'll be #8 otherwise.
Just for clarity, there's no difference between the 8th and 9th seed right?
Aside from empty bragging rights… no.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball, 2019-20

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Griz and Thunderbirds combined for approximately 475 fouls tonight.
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