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1: Richmond Spiders
2: Montana Grizzlies
3: Villanova Wildcats
4: Southern Illinois Salukis
5: William & Mary Tribe
6: Northern Iowa Panthers
7: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
10: Elon Phoenix
11: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13: Massachusetts Minutemen
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: South Carolina State Bulldogs
16: McNeese State Cowboys
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Cal Poly Mustangs
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Furman Paladins
22: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
23: Liberty Flames
24: Lafayette Leopards
25: Montana State Bobcats


Fire way

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Montana Grizzlies
3: Southern Illinois Salukis
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: William & Mary Tribe
6: Elon Phoenix
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
10: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
11: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
13: Central Arkansas Bears
14: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
15: Massachusetts Minutemen
16: Weber State Wildcats
17: South Carolina State Bulldogs
18: Appalachian State Mountaineers
19: Cal Poly Mustangs
20: McNeese State Cowboys
21: Colgate Raiders
22: Montana State Bobcats
23: Furman Paladins
24: Eastern Illinois Panthers
25: UC Davis Aggies

As last week, 15-25 starts to get a little crowded because you get so much overlap. When does a 2 loss team from a traditionally strong conference get placed above a one loss from a weaker conference?

Too bad UC Davis has three losses, they have played much tougher than their ranking. They are almost the Wests version JMU.

1. Richmond
2. Southern Illinois
3. Montana
4. Northern Iowa
5. New Hampshire
6. Villanova
7. Elon
8. William & Mary
9. Appalachian St.
10. South Carolina St.
11. Weber St.
12. South Dakota St.
13. Delaware
14. Massachusetts
15. Jacksonville St.
16. Stephen F. Austin
17. Colgate
18. Northern Arizona
19. Central Arkansas
20. Cal Poly
21. Furman
22. Liberty
23. Florida A&M
24. Eastern Washington
25. Eastern Kentucky


Just realized I have no McNeese in there. My bad Cowboy fans. Just an oversight. That's what happens when you do your poll in the car on the trip home...

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Southern Illinois Salukis
3: Montana Grizzlies
4: Northern Iowa Panthers
5: Villanova Wildcats
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Elon Phoenix
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: Massachusetts Minutemen
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: Appalachian State Mountaineers
12: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
13: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
16: South Carolina State Bulldogs
17: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
18: Weber State Wildcats
19: McNeese State Cowboys
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Eastern Washington Eagles
22: Furman Paladins
23: Georgia Southern Eagles
24: Liberty Flames
25: Albany Great Danes

Spot 25 came down to 5 teams:
Albany
Colgate
Lafayette
FAMU
Central Conn.

I've seen 4 out of the 5 play (all but Lafayette) and I'd take Albany to would win head-to-head against any of the other 4. That's what I voted Albany at 25. However, I could easily see any of the others in there as well.

How I voted this week. Nothing to hide. This week (last week)

1. Richmond (1)
2. Southern Illinois (4)
3. Montana (5)
4. Villanova (6)
5. Northern Iowa (2)
6. Elon (7)
7. William & Mary (9)
8. Appalachian State (10)
9. New Hampshire (3)
10. Jacksonville State (11)
11. Weber State (12)
12. South Carolina State (13)
13. McNeese State (15)
14. Delaware (16)
15. UMass (18)
16. Central Arkansas (8)
17. South Dakota State (20)
18. Northern Arizona (22)
19. Stephen F Austin (23)
20. Colgate (21)
21. Florida A&M (17)
22. Cal Poly (19)
23. James Madison (14)
24. Liberty (25)
25. Furman (NR)

Dropped: Eastern Washington (24)

1. Montana
2. Richmond
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. UNI
7. Weber State
8. Delaware
9. William & Mary
10. SDSU
11. Umass
12. UNH
13. App State
14. NAU
15. SFA
16. Cal Poly
17. Montana State
18. McNeese State
19. UCA
20. Georgia Southern
21. YSU
22. Furman
23. South Carolina State
24. Jacksonville State
25. Eastern Illinois

Can someone explain to me the logic behind all the love for Jacksonville State?

dbackjon wrote:1: Richmond Spiders
2: Montana Grizzlies
3: Villanova Wildcats
4: Southern Illinois Salukis
5: William & Mary Tribe
6: Northern Iowa Panthers
7: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
8: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
10: Elon Phoenix
11: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13: Massachusetts Minutemen
14: New Hampshire Wildcats
15: South Carolina State Bulldogs
16: McNeese State Cowboys
17: Appalachian State Mountaineers
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Cal Poly Mustangs
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Furman Paladins
22: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
23: Liberty Flames
24: Lafayette Leopards
25: Montana State Bobcats


Fire way

Well, I, too, like to stick up for my Big Sky brethren, but Montana State? I don't see it. Their FBS loss was to Michigan State, a team that is just getting smoked in the Big 10. Yeah, so their other loss is to Northern Arizona (at home, mind you), but they've got some shaky wins against DII Dixie State (who is not lighting the DII football world on fire) and South Dakota (who earlier got blown out by Northern Iowa, 66-7). Maybe carrying a lot of clout with that road win against Weber State? How far will that take them?

If you wanted to include a fourth Big Sky team, I'd go with Eastern Washington. I'd take a close loss at Montana over a close win at home to South Dakota any day.

AZGrizFan wrote:1. Montana
2. Richmond
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. UNI
7. Weber State
8. Delaware
9. William & Mary
10. SDSU
11. Umass
12. UNH
13. App State
14. NAU
15. SFA
16. Cal Poly
17. Montana State
18. McNeese State
19. UCA
20. Georgia Southern
21. YSU
22. Furman
23. South Carolina State
24. Jacksonville State
25. Eastern Illinois

Can someone explain to me the logic behind all the love for Jacksonville State?

Their performance against Florida State was enough to get them in the top 20 for me.

AZGrizFan wrote:1. Montana
2. Richmond
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. UNI
7. Weber State
8. Delaware
9. William & Mary
10. SDSU
11. Umass
12. UNH
13. App State
14. NAU
15. SFA
16. Cal Poly
17. Montana State
18. McNeese State
19. UCA
20. Georgia Southern
21. YSU
22. Furman
23. South Carolina State
24. Jacksonville State
25. Eastern Illinois

Can someone explain to me the logic behind all the love for Jacksonville State?

I got them at #10 because of the fact they should have won at Florida State. Not many teams, FCS or FBS, can get a win over Bobby Bowden in Tallahassee. That and the fact that, since they've moved back to playing FCS, no one seems to be able to stop them. This week against Eastern Illinois should be a good test, but up until now I'm giving them a lotta luv.

I went back and forth on the last few spots. My final thought was that MSU has one quality win. EWU has none. Fortunately, this will be settled by Saturday night

danefan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Can someone explain to me the logic behind all the love for Jacksonville State?

Their performance against Florida State was enough to get them in the top 20 for me.

This isn't your father's Florida State team....

AZGrizFan wrote:

danefan wrote:
Their performance against Florida State was enough to get them in the top 20 for me.

This isn't your father's Florida State team....

True, but I still don't think there are more than 20 teams in the FCS that would hang with FSU at home.

danefan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
This isn't your father's Florida State team....

True, but I still don't think there are more than 20 teams in the FCS that would hang with FSU at home.

They aren't that tough at home anymore regardless of who they play. They have lost to their last 5 FBS opponents at home...

danefan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
This isn't your father's Florida State team....

True, but I still don't think there are more than 20 teams in the FCS that would hang with FSU at home.

Plus, they are currently rated as the 7th strongest team in FCS by Sagarin.

Richmond - 53
Montana - 57
Villanova - 58
William and Mary - 60
N Iowa - 73
S Illinois - 71
Jacksonville State - 75

That is where they are getting the love from me. While not perfect, Sagarin has been around a long time.

1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. William & Mary
6. UNI
7. SDSU
8. Delaware
9. App State
10. SFA
11. UMass
12. UNH
13. South Carolina State
14. Montana
15. UCA
16. Cal Poly
17. Jacksonville State
18. McNeese State
19. Colgate
20. Furman
21. James Madison
22. Georgia Southern
23. Holy Cross
24. Liberty
25. Eastern Kentucky

89Hen wrote:1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. William & Mary
6. UNI
7. SDSU
8. Delaware
9. App State
10. SFA
11. UMass
12. UNH
13. South Carolina State
14. Montana
15. UCA
16. Cal Poly
17. Jacksonville State
18. McNeese State
19. Colgate
20. Furman
21. James Madison
22. Georgia Southern
23. Holy Cross
24. Liberty
25. Eastern Kentucky

Why Holy Cross?

Hen is trying to bait me.

danefan wrote:Why Holy Cross?

Because they're Catholic.

My Week 7 ballot (previous week in parentheses)…

• 1. Richmond (1)
  2. Montana (3)
  3. Elon (4)
  4. Villanova (6)
  5. Southern Illinois (10)
  6. Northern Iowa (2)
  7. New Hampshire (5)
  8. William & Mary (7)
  9. Stephen F. Austin (16)
  10. Jacksonville St. (11)
  11. Central Arkansas (8)
  12. Appalachian St. (9)
  13. South Dakota St. (12)
  14. South Carolina St. (14)
  15. Weber St. (15)
  16. Delaware (17)
  17. Colgate (19)
  18. Massachusetts (25)
  19. Furman (22)
  20. Prairie View A&M (21)
  21. Florida A&M (13)
  22. McNeese St. (23)
  23. Northern Arizona (NR)
  24. Cal Poly (20)
  25. Eastern Washington (NR)
  
  Most Significant W - Southern Illinois
  Most Significant L - James Madison

Next 5 (in order): Liberty, Holy Cross (24), Lafayette, Grambling, Georgia Southern

Others Considered (NOT in order): Missouri St., Tennessee-Chattanooga

Dropped from Consideration: James Madison (18), Samford, Harvard

89Hen wrote:1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. SIU
4. Elon
5. William & Mary
6. UNI
7. SDSU
8. Delaware
9. App State
10. SFA
11. UMass
12. UNH
13. South Carolina State
14. Montana
15. UCA
16. Cal Poly
17. Jacksonville State
18. McNeese State
19. Colgate
20. Furman
21. James Madison
22. Georgia Southern
23. Holy Cross
24. Liberty
25. Eastern Kentucky

1. Richmond
2. Montana
3. Villanova
4. Southern Illinois
5. William and Mary
6. Elon
7. Appalachian State
8. Northern Iowa
9. New Hampshire
10. McNeese State
11. Massachusetts
12. South Dakota State
13. Weber State
14. South Carolina State
15. Stephen F. Austin
16. Central Arkansas
17. Cal Poly
18. Eastern Kentucky
19. Jacksonville St
20. Delaware
21. Furman
22. Northern Arizona
23. Youngstown St
24. Eastern Washington
25. Colgate

26. Montana State
27. Georgia Southern
28. Central Connecticut State

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Montana Grizzlies
3: Southern Illinois Salukis
4: Villanova Wildcats
5: Northern Iowa Panthers
6: Elon Phoenix
7: William & Mary Tribe
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
11: Massachusetts Minutemen
12: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
13: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
14: South Carolina State Bulldogs
15: Weber State Wildcats
16: McNeese State Cowboys
17: Colgate Raiders
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Cal Poly Mustangs
21: Holy Cross Crusaders
22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
23: Eastern Washington Eagles
24: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
25: Eastern Illinois Panthers

I'm really impressed with the voters in this poll and their ability to look at things without "homer" glasses. Pretty damn impressed with the integrity shown.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:I'm really impressed with the voters in this poll and their ability to look at things without "homer" glasses. Pretty damn impressed with the integrity shown.

dbackjon wrote:9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks

89Hen wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:I'm really impressed with the voters in this poll and their ability to look at things without "homer" glasses. Pretty damn impressed with the integrity shown.

dbackjon wrote:9: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks