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CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:03 pm
by UNHWildCats
If New Hampshire and Richmond were to both finish 11-0 the CAA Athletic Directors, minus UNH and Richmond's will meet and determine who gets the conference's auto bid.

The two teams would remain tied after all tie breaking procedures because they don't meet head to head this season.

Should make for an interesting meeting should they finish 11-0.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:07 pm
by CatMom
To me that shows the glaring problem with a large conference, split in two, where everyone doesn't play everyone else on a routine, year-in year-out basis.... and no championship game.


Coin toss :twocents:

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:12 pm
by Grizaholic17
But with all the competition in that Conference...how could that EVER happen? :roll:

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:22 pm
by 93henfan
C'mon Travis, you know better. Nobody's going undefeated in the CAA. We're not even past the halfway point and there are so many land mines left for everyone. UNH still has UMass and W&M both on the road, and something's telling me UMass is a pissed off team right about now. Enjoy your trip to Amherst next week. Richmond still has UMass, Nova, and W&M. Nobody gets through the preeminent FCS conference undefeated this year. Too many good teams.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:25 pm
by BlueHen86
UNHWildCats wrote:If New Hampshire and Richmond were to both finish 11-0 the CAA Athletic Directors, minus UNH and Richmond's will meet and determine who gets the conference's auto bid.

The two teams would remain tied after all tie breaking procedures because they don't meet head to head this season.

Should make for an interesting meeting should they finish 11-0.
Doesn't matter. The winner of the CAA autobid could still get seeded lower that the second place team.

It occurs to me that Richmond will probably get the nod because they are the defending NC's.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:28 pm
by BlueHen86
CatMom wrote:To me that shows the glaring problem with a large conference, split in two, where everyone doesn't play everyone else on a routine, year-in year-out basis.... and no championship game.


Coin toss :twocents:
Glaring? Really? If the CAA were a one bid conference you might have a point. But if 2 CAA teams go 11-0 both are in the playoffs and both are likely seeded very high. The winner of the autobid is irrelevant since it will have no bearing on how the teams are seeded by the commitee.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:45 pm
by CatMom
Yes, as I see it. Two teams in the same conference go undefeated. For every other conference it's an impossibility for 2 teams to do so, isn't it?

I didn't say there wouldn't be two teams getting in the playoffs. I have issue with the above, that's all. And my basic response to how the meeting would go is a coin toss. What's wrong with that?

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:45 pm
by UNHWildCats
93henfan wrote:C'mon Travis, you know better. Nobody's going undefeated in the CAA. We're not even past the halfway point and there are so many land mines left for everyone. UNH still has UMass and W&M both on the road, and something's telling me UMass is a pissed off team right about now. Enjoy your trip to Amherst next week. Richmond still has UMass, Nova, and W&M. Nobody gets through the preeminent FCS conference undefeated this year. Too many good teams.
Probably, but they both could very well go 11-0. Unlikely, but possible. I was just throwing this out there.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:49 pm
by Grizaholic17
In all seriousness...they would have to look at common opponents correct? I'm not sure how the conference works I guess.

If those show no difference, then UR gets the bid because of defending champs.

All in all...such a big conference with such talent should be split so that things like this don't happen...even if they seldom do

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:59 pm
by BlueHen86
CatMom wrote:Yes, as I see it. Two teams in the same conference go undefeated. For every other conference it's an impossibility for 2 teams to do so, isn't it?
I didn't say there wouldn't be two teams getting in the playoffs. I have issue with the above, that's all. And my basic response to how the meeting would go is a coin toss. What's wrong with that?
So what if 2 CAA teams go undefeated? Why is that important? 11-0 or 10-1 in the CAA are still likely to get a team a high seed. You are worrying way too much about something hasn't happened yet and might not matter even if it does (i.e. it's possible that the two teams could be seeded 1 - 2 even if one of them has a loss, so it really wouldn't matter if they are both 11-0 or if one is 10-1).

Besides, they'll meet in the playoffs. :lol:

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:03 pm
by BlueHen86
Grizaholic17 wrote:In all seriousness...they would have to look at common opponents correct? I'm not sure how the conference works I guess.

If those show no difference, then UR gets the bid because of defending champs.

All in all...such a big conference with such talent should be split so that things like this don't happen...even if they seldom do
Keep in mind, that if the confernce were to split, you potentially INCREASE the chance that 2 teams in the current CAA go 11-0.

Also, if the CAA were split right now, you could still be looking at the possibilty of Richmond and UNH going 11-0.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:04 pm
by AZGrizFan
BlueHen86 wrote:
CatMom wrote:Yes, as I see it. Two teams in the same conference go undefeated. For every other conference it's an impossibility for 2 teams to do so, isn't it?
I didn't say there wouldn't be two teams getting in the playoffs. I have issue with the above, that's all. And my basic response to how the meeting would go is a coin toss. What's wrong with that?
So what if 2 CAA teams go undefeated? Why is that important? 11-0 or 10-1 in the CAA are still likely to get a team a high seed. You are worrying way too much about something hasn't happened yet and might not matter even if it does (i.e. it's possible that the two teams could be seeded 1 - 2 even if one of them has a loss, so it really wouldn't matter if they are both 11-0 or if one is 10-1).

Besides, they'll meet in the playoffs. :lol:
But only if they make the semi's since CAA teams don't play each other in the 1st or 2nd rounds. :lol: ;)

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:09 pm
by BlueHen86
AZGrizFan wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
So what if 2 CAA teams go undefeated? Why is that important? 11-0 or 10-1 in the CAA are still likely to get a team a high seed. You are worrying way too much about something hasn't happened yet and might not matter even if it does (i.e. it's possible that the two teams could be seeded 1 - 2 even if one of them has a loss, so it really wouldn't matter if they are both 11-0 or if one is 10-1).

Besides, they'll meet in the playoffs. :lol:
But only if they make the semi's since CAA teams don't play each other in the 1st or 2nd rounds. :lol: ;)
You are probably correct. I suspect that if Montana (or some other Big Sky, Socon or MVFC team) is also 11-0 that the two CAA teams would meet in the semis. I think the committee would seed Montana either 1 or 2 in order to make sure that the CAA doesn't benefit from being so big.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:17 am
by houndawg
BlueHen86 wrote:
CatMom wrote:Yes, as I see it. Two teams in the same conference go undefeated. For every other conference it's an impossibility for 2 teams to do so, isn't it?
I didn't say there wouldn't be two teams getting in the playoffs. I have issue with the above, that's all. And my basic response to how the meeting would go is a coin toss. What's wrong with that?
So what if 2 CAA teams go undefeated? Why is that important? 11-0 or 10-1 in the CAA are still likely to get a team a high seed. You are worrying way too much about something hasn't happened yet and might not matter even if it does (i.e. it's possible that the two teams could be seeded 1 - 2 even if one of them has a loss, so it really wouldn't matter if they are both 11-0 or if one is 10-1).

Besides, they'll meet in the playoffs. :lol:
It's important because the very purpose of having a conference is to settle the question of who is better on the field. :nod:

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:44 am
by ChickenMan
AZGrizFan wrote:But only if they make the semi's since CAA teams don't play each other in the 1st or 2nd rounds. :lol: ;)
Not true.. just last year Villanova/JMU met in the 2d round.. also in '06 UNH/UMass and again in '04 UD/W&M.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:45 pm
by BlueHen86
houndawg wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
So what if 2 CAA teams go undefeated? Why is that important? 11-0 or 10-1 in the CAA are still likely to get a team a high seed. You are worrying way too much about something hasn't happened yet and might not matter even if it does (i.e. it's possible that the two teams could be seeded 1 - 2 even if one of them has a loss, so it really wouldn't matter if they are both 11-0 or if one is 10-1).

Besides, they'll meet in the playoffs. :lol:
It's important because the very purpose of having a conference is to settle the question of who is better on the field. :nod:
I thought that was the point of the playoffs. I'd rather win a National Championship than a conference title, so in my opinion it doesnt matter who gets the autobid as long as both teams make the playoffs.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:13 pm
by houndawg
BlueHen86 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
It's important because the very purpose of having a conference is to settle the question of who is better on the field. :nod:
I thought that was the point of the playoffs. I'd rather win a National Championship than a conference title, so in my opinion it doesnt matter who gets the autobid as long as both teams make the playoffs.
And conference play is supposed to determine who the strongest representative is. Hell the definition of a conference is a group of teams that compete against each other.

Split the CAA and give them each an autobid.

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:36 pm
by BlueHen86
houndawg wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
I thought that was the point of the playoffs. I'd rather win a National Championship than a conference title, so in my opinion it doesnt matter who gets the autobid as long as both teams make the playoffs.
And conference play is supposed to determine who the strongest representative is. Hell the definition of a conference is a group of teams that compete against each other.

Split the CAA and give them each an autobid.
Okay. And Richmond and UNH still both go undefeated, so I'm not sure what you have accomplished.

Also now, the two conferences might each get 3 playoff teams, for a total of 6 compared to the previous best of 5.

I like it. :thumb:

Re: CAA What If....

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:24 am
by ur76spider
As for New Hampshire and Richmond going 11-0....it is still earlly and there are still a lot of football conference games to be played! :nod: :nod: :nod: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: