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I'd put Taiwan Jones of EWU up against him. 9.2 ypc! Yeah, he doesn't get as many touches, but he's a beast.

AZGrizFan wrote:I'd put Taiwan Jones of EWU up against him. 9.2 ypc! Yeah, he doesn't get as many touches, but he's a beast.

AZGrizFan wrote:I'd put Taiwan Jones of EWU up against him. 9.2 ypc! Yeah, he doesn't get as many touches, but he's a beast.

That and he plays in the big sky......... so.... you know..... not very difficult.

wideright82 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:I'd put Taiwan Jones of EWU up against him. 9.2 ypc! Yeah, he doesn't get as many touches, but he's a beast.

That and he plays in the big sky......... so.... you know..... not very difficult.

Wow. You're gettin' slow old man.
edit: and actually, his average against BSC teams is over 12 ypc.

AZGrizFan wrote:

wideright82 wrote:


That and he plays in the big sky......... so.... you know..... not very difficult.

Wow. You're gettin' slow old man.
edit: and actually, his average against BSC teams is over 12 ypc.

23 is a tough age, Z.

edit: case and point

wideright82 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Wow. You're gettin' slow old man.
edit: and actually, his average against BSC teams is over 12 ypc.

23 is a tough age, Z.

edit: case and point

I thought you'd like that stat. Of course, when you get ONE 96-yard run, it has a tendancy to raise the ol' per carry average a tad...

AZGrizFan wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

23 is a tough age, Z.

edit: case and point

I thought you'd like that stat. Of course, when you get ONE 96-yard run, it has a tendancy to raise the ol' per carry average a tad...

not if stats were liek the gpi... the top and bottom one would just be removed as if they never happened

wideright82 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
I thought you'd like that stat. Of course, when you get ONE 96-yard run, it has a tendancy to raise the ol' per carry average a tad...

not if stats were liek the gpi... the top and bottom one would just be removed as if they never happened

Well, there's lies, damned lies, and then there's statistics.

AZGrizFan wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

23 is a tough age, Z.

edit: case and point

I thought you'd like that stat. Of course, when you get ONE 96-yard run, it has a tendancy to raise the ol' per carry average a tad...

It also means you have real speed, like Deji Karim.

houndawg wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
I thought you'd like that stat. Of course, when you get ONE 96-yard run, it has a tendancy to raise the ol' per carry average a tad...

It also means you have real speed, like Deji Karim.

Speed and agility. The only person who ever really beat him when he ran track in HS... he's the starting back for Cal. You might have heard of him... Jahvid Best.

AZGrizFan wrote:I'd put Taiwan Jones of EWU up against him. 9.2 ypc! Yeah, he doesn't get as many touches, but he's a beast.

Karim looked better than Paschall head to head. Paschal had 23 more yards on six more carries, but it was most telling that in 28 carries his long was 14 yards.

houndawg wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:I'd put Taiwan Jones of EWU up against him. 9.2 ypc! Yeah, he doesn't get as many touches, but he's a beast.

Karim looked better than Paschall head to head. Paschal had 23 more yards on six more carries, but it was most telling that in 28 carries his long was 14 yards.

yeah... the bison can't throw so they keyed on paschall

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Karim looked better than Paschall head to head. Paschal had 23 more yards on six more carries, but it was most telling that in 28 carries his long was 14 yards.

yeah... the bison can't throw so they keyed on paschall

From what I heard, the problem is more that they can't catch.

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:

houndawg wrote:
It also means you have real speed, like Deji Karim.

Speed and agility. The only person who ever really beat him when he ran track in HS... he's the starting back for Cal. You might have heard of him... Jahvid Best.

I have heard Jones has 4.22 speed......any weight in that?

He certainly looked like he did in that 96-yarder.

EWURanger wrote:

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
Speed and agility. The only person who ever really beat him when he ran track in HS... he's the starting back for Cal. You might have heard of him... Jahvid Best.

I have heard Jones has 4.22 speed......any weight in that?

He certainly looked like he did in that 96-yarder.

I would think he'd be playing Pac-10 ball with that kind of speed.

AZGrizFan wrote:

EWURanger wrote:
I have heard Jones has 4.22 speed......any weight in that?

He certainly looked like he did in that 96-yarder.

I would think he'd be playing Pac-10 ball with that kind of speed.

Me too, although that's exactly how I have heard him described as having......."Pac-10 speed." But from what I have heard, he was over-looked for one reason or another out of high-school.......we have seen it several times before, and historically have done a very good job at grabbing guys that have somehow fallen under the Pac-10 radar.

The most interesting thing about Jones is that he played cornerback last year.

houndawg wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
yeah... the bison can't throw so they keyed on paschall

From what I heard, the problem is more that they can't catch.

Paschall is the real deal and could get a NFL Combine invite. I would not be surprised to see him land in the late rounds or get signed as a free agent. On Jones and his speed I saw him play and I would guess 4.40-4.44 range. That 4.2 sounds awful fast. I could see him run a 4.35 or so in two years but I am trying to be conservative as many players are suppose to run a 4.2 and less than 1/4 of those ever do. Still, 4.4s or high 4.3s is still blazing fast.

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Paschall is the real deal and could get a NFL Combine invite. I would not be surprised to see him land in the late rounds or get signed as a free agent. On Jones and his speed I saw him play and I would guess 4.40-4.44 range. That 4.2 sounds awful fast. I could see him run a 4.35 or so in two years but I am trying to be conservative as many players are suppose to run a 4.2 and less than 1/4 of those ever do. Still, 4.4s or high 4.3s is still blazing fast.

He's a good back no doubt, but he can't be NFL fast or he would have had some longer runs at SIU given the holes he had in the first half.

houndawg wrote:

SmallCollegeFBFan wrote:Paschall is the real deal and could get a NFL Combine invite. I would not be surprised to see him land in the late rounds or get signed as a free agent. On Jones and his speed I saw him play and I would guess 4.40-4.44 range. That 4.2 sounds awful fast. I could see him run a 4.35 or so in two years but I am trying to be conservative as many players are suppose to run a 4.2 and less than 1/4 of those ever do. Still, 4.4s or high 4.3s is still blazing fast.

He's a good back no doubt, but he can't be NFL fast or he would have had some longer runs at SIU given the holes he had in the first half.

Guess I missed EWU vs SIU

EWURanger wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
I would think he'd be playing Pac-10 ball with that kind of speed.

Me too, although that's exactly how I have heard him described as having......."Pac-10 speed." But from what I have heard, he was over-looked for one reason or another out of high-school.......we have seen it several times before, and historically have done a very good job at grabbing guys that have somehow fallen under the Pac-10 radar.

The most interesting thing about Jones is that he played cornerback last year.

Jones was an academic non-qualifier I believe, which is why we were able to grab him. In a season preview video on goeags.com, Nichols stated that he's been clocked by three different people at 4.22, but that includes human error. I'm guessing he's closer to a low 4.3... which is still ridiculously fast. He gets better every game, and I can't wait to see what he does in 2 years after that much more experience and time in the weight room. He'll definitely get a look at the NFL.

Gil Dobie wrote:

houndawg wrote:
He's a good back no doubt, but he can't be NFL fast or he would have had some longer runs at SIU given the holes he had in the first half.

Guess I missed EWU vs SIU

I'll throw #22 in the ring

houndawg wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:I'd put Taiwan Jones of EWU up against him. 9.2 ypc! Yeah, he doesn't get as many touches, but he's a beast.

Karim looked better than Paschall head to head. Paschal had 23 more yards on six more carries, but it was most telling that in 28 carries his long was 14 yards.

That probably says more about the Saluki D than the ability of Paschall himself. He is a gamer.