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One thing I like about the CAA is that many of the southern schools are close enough that the number of traveling fans is growing.

If the other schools admit it or not they love playing JMU at home b/c JMU draws their own fans and JMU brings 4,000 (anyone) to 8,000 (UR) tailgaters.

UR last year, at least 8,000 JMU fans...UR stadium was dubbed JMU East for three hours...
WM this year, sold out weeks before the game...I can't guess how many are JMU...
Liberty (non-CAA) last week, I'm guessing 4,000 JMU fans traveled to sit in a typhoon...
ODU vs JMU could fill a 40,000 seat stadium in Norfolk now...

I hate VCU and GMU b/c that would add two more big FCS schools in CAA country...GMU would support football out of the gate. VCU, maybe not b/c the City of Richmond won't support anything but kids eat free buffets at western sizzlin.

Your title should read "CAA South Geography (without Georgia State): A good thing"

Once Georgia State comes into the fold you've got a geographical nightmare as long as the North is still around.

I've heard some more rumblings lately about a shakeup but nothing concrete.

danefan wrote:Your title should read "CAA South Geography (without Georgia State): A good thing"

Once Georgia State comes into the fold you've got a geographical nightmare as long as the North is still around.

I've heard some more rumblings lately about a shakeup but nothing concrete.

The BSC is a geographical nightmare. Georgia State is just a travel wrinkle.

AZGrizFan wrote:

danefan wrote:Your title should read "CAA South Geography (without Georgia State): A good thing"

Once Georgia State comes into the fold you've got a geographical nightmare as long as the North is still around.

I've heard some more rumblings lately about a shakeup but nothing concrete.

The BSC is a geographical nightmare. Georgia State is just a travel wrinkle.

The BSC would have been a geographical nightmare if we would have let the Dakota schools in. Thank God that didn't happen.

JALMOND wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
The BSC is a geographical nightmare. Georgia State is just a travel wrinkle.

The BSC would have been a geographical nightmare if we would have let the Dakota schools in. Thank God that didn't happen.

No....then it would have been a geographical natural disaster.

AZGrizFan wrote:

JALMOND wrote:
The BSC would have been a geographical nightmare if we would have let the Dakota schools in. Thank God that didn't happen.

No....then it would have been a geographical natural disaster.

agreed - as jilted as i think most bison fans felt when that happened... it was the right call... the mvfc is a better fit. the summit on the other hand... that conference is just strange...

as for the CAA - you easterners don't know "far"...

JALMOND wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
The BSC is a geographical nightmare. Georgia State is just a travel wrinkle.

The BSC would have been a geographical nightmare if we would have let the Dakota schools in. Thank God that didn't happen.

You mean the schools closer to every Southern and CAA Member (except ME) than NAU?

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:easterners don't know "far"

We know "far" better than Great Plainsmen know "traffic"

UAalum72 wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

We know "far" better than Great Plainsmen know "traffic"

I've commuted in Philly, DC and the Twin Cities... the Twin Cities is on par with Philly... and while DC is worse - it's not all that much different than Chicago

As travel to Norfolk will be relatively easy for JMU, UR and WM, there won't be many fans traveling. That is as long as ODU keeps selling out. Each school will get the minimum 1000 seats required by the CAA but no more.
I don't know how well ODU will travel. It will be interesting to see how that pans out. But it sure can be an excuse to expand the stadiums at the Virginia schools. Two home games in one year between the three other schools could net an extra 5-7k, or more, for each game over the average attendance.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

UAalum72 wrote: We know "far" better than Great Plainsmen know "traffic"

I've commuted in Philly, DC and the Twin Cities... the Twin Cities is on par with Philly... and while DC is worse - it's not all that much different than Chicago

It's not the individual cities in the northeast that are so bad. It's the combination of one city after another on 95 that makes it hell.

I drove from my house in Delaware to visit friends in Attleboro, MA on a Friday once. Never, ever, ever, ever, never will I do that again. Slowdowns in Wilmington DE, portions of the NJTP, all the way from the approach to the GW Bridge past The Bronx, about 20 different traffic jams in CT, more slowdowns in Providence, and finally there about 10 hours later (just over 300 miles). Argh.

Ten hours driving in Big Sky country nets you, what? Six, seven, eight hundred miles when it's not snowing?

CAA Flagship wrote:As travel to Norfolk will be relatively easy for JMU, UR and WM, there won't be many fans traveling. That is as long as ODU keeps selling out. Each school will get the minimum 1000 seats required by the CAA but no more.
I don't know how well ODU will travel. It will be interesting to see how that pans out. But it sure can be an excuse to expand the stadiums at the Virginia schools. Two home games in one year between the three other schools could net an extra 5-7k, or more, for each game over the average attendance.

Not sure if people will fork over the dough for the bridge-tunnel, but UD is a straight shot up 13.

93henfan wrote:

CAA Flagship wrote:As travel to Norfolk will be relatively easy for JMU, UR and WM, there won't be many fans traveling. That is as long as ODU keeps selling out. Each school will get the minimum 1000 seats required by the CAA but no more.
I don't know how well ODU will travel. It will be interesting to see how that pans out. But it sure can be an excuse to expand the stadiums at the Virginia schools. Two home games in one year between the three other schools could net an extra 5-7k, or more, for each game over the average attendance.

Not sure if people will fork over the dough for the bridge-tunnel, but UD is a straight shot up 13.

Only a $17 roundtrip. 234 rural miles

The $17 is well worth it to avoid local (another tunnel), DC and Towson Metro traffic.
That's just about the same distance (travel time) as going to JMU. Save us some seats and we'll be there.

CAA Flagship wrote:The $17 is well worth it to avoid local (another tunnel), DC and Towson Metro traffic.
That's just about the same distance (travel time) as going to JMU. Save us some seats and we'll be there.

Metro Towson?

While I liken traffic in Towson to the NoVA of Baltimore, it's all off the beltway and shouldnt be anywhere near a drive to Delaware.

UAalum72 wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

We know "far" better than Great Plainsmen know "traffic"

You've obviously never gotten stuck behind tractor after tractor during harvest season........
(okay, so that's not so much of an issue on the Great Plains, since there are fewer curves and hills and thus it's easier to pass. But on some stretches of Iowa roads, especially northeast Iowa, it can be almost as frustrating as city traffic).

And then there are the deer......

JayJ79 wrote:

UAalum72 wrote: We know "far" better than Great Plainsmen know "traffic"

You've obviously never gotten stuck behind tractor after tractor during harvest season........
(okay, so that's not so much of an issue on the Great Plains, since there are fewer curves and hills and thus it's easier to pass. But on some stretches of Iowa roads, especially northeast Iowa, it can be almost as frustrating as city traffic).

And then there are the deer......

I don't ever want to hear anything about deer. New Jersey is full of em. Hunterdon County New Jersey, I believe, has the most deer per sq. mi. of any where in the country. (don't quote me on that thouhg, i'd need to look it up)

I dread my fall commutes from Dover to Annapolis due to the aforementioned tractors harvesting the Eastern Shore and the white tails in rut. It makes for an interesting obstacle course.

Do people outside the northeast/mid-Atlantic think there is no wildlife/agriculture here?

93henfan wrote:Do people outside the northeast/mid-Atlantic think there is no wildlife/agriculture here?

I'm thinking no.

93henfan wrote:I dread my fall commutes from Dover to Annapolis due to the aforementioned tractors harvesting the Eastern Shore and the white tails in rut. It makes for an interesting obstacle course.

Do people outside the northeast/mid-Atlantic think there is no wildlife/agriculture here?

Only because previous posters on the thread tried to make it sound like it was city after city with no rural driving. ;op

But yeah, some people in the rest of the country have their misconceptions about the northeast, just like some northeasterners have misconceptions about the rest of the country.

I'd actually been pretty lucky (well, some skill, but mostly luck) as far as deer, having never actually hit one (but plenty of evasive maneuvering and near-misses)......
until this week, when I clipped one coming back from work Wednesday night. But even then, I'm fairly fortunate as it mostly only busted a power steering part (and something in my right front turn signal), so I could still drive it home.

andy7171 wrote:

93henfan wrote:Do people outside the northeast/mid-Atlantic think there is no wildlife/agriculture here?

I'm thinking no.

Fucker






Edit: This was for the kicker bs

93henfan wrote:I dread my fall commutes from Dover to Annapolis due to the aforementioned tractors harvesting the Eastern Shore and the white tails in rut. It makes for an interesting obstacle course.

Do people outside the northeast/mid-Atlantic think there is no wildlife/agriculture here?

Much like people ouside the northwest think there's no running water or electricity there.

AZGrizFan wrote:

93henfan wrote:I dread my fall commutes from Dover to Annapolis due to the aforementioned tractors harvesting the Eastern Shore and the white tails in rut. It makes for an interesting obstacle course.

Do people outside the northeast/mid-Atlantic think there is no wildlife/agriculture here?

Much like people ouside the northwest think there's no running water or electricity there.

False. It's cars we don't think they have. Cars.

JayJ79 wrote:

93henfan wrote:I dread my fall commutes from Dover to Annapolis due to the aforementioned tractors harvesting the Eastern Shore and the white tails in rut. It makes for an interesting obstacle course.

Do people outside the northeast/mid-Atlantic think there is no wildlife/agriculture here?

Only because previous posters on the thread tried to make it sound like it was city after city with no rural driving. ;op

But yeah, some people in the rest of the country have their misconceptions about the northeast, just like some northeasterners have misconceptions about the rest of the country.

I'd actually been pretty lucky (well, some skill, but mostly luck) as far as deer, having never actually hit one (but plenty of evasive maneuvering and near-misses)......
until this week, when I clipped one coming back from work Wednesday night. But even then, I'm fairly fortunate as it mostly only busted a power steering part (and something in my right front turn signal), so I could still drive it home.

Well look at a map. Washington, Baltimore, Wilmington, Philly, Newark, New York, New Haven, Providence, Boston, all in and around 45-75 minutes of each other going in a line. Along that 95 corridor it is. But get outside of that corridor 20 minutes east or west and its all farms and forests.

wideright82 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Much like people ouside the northwest think there's no running water or electricity there.

False. It's cars we don't think they have. Cars.

Which is funny, because I"m SURE there are more cars in some Western towns than there are in NYC (outside of cabbies, )