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Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:58 pm
by slycat
Thought this was a good read.
Sep 08 2009
Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You
Posted by Administrator in General

Ok, hate is strong word and mostly not accurate but there is a point to be made.

Look we don’t roll into your stadium for a check ranging from the high hundreds of thousands to a million bucks expecting there is a high probability that we are going to win. We also don’t come expecting to roll over and play dead either. We sure as heck don’t come in believing there are mystic powers in that plastic grass or real grass (whichever the case may be) that insures we have no chance of winning.

You don’t respect us for what we are attempting to do. Yeah we understand the deck is stacked, you get more money just from your conference merely for having a pulse than we will spend this year. We are trying to do a lot with a little.

The big lie in this country is that we love underdogs. That’s far from the truth. Visit any message board of a rich six conference school and see the contempt heaped on the less popular leagues. Americans hate underdogs, go back and read what was said about Utah before either BCS appearance or about Boise State. Listen to the radio and TV experts.

Our refusal to concede defeat until it is actually inflicted for some reason offends you. I don’t understand your logic in being offended. You aren’t as entertaining as the Harlem Globetrotters so why do you want to play the Washington Generals? Our players think they are better than your coaches thought they were during recruiting, they intend to do their best to prove it. In many cases your coaches thought our kids were just as good but went with the closer guy or the one they thought might have a bit more growth potential. Our coaches think they know the game as well as yours and they intend to prove it as well. If you don’t want competition get out of Division I.

We are offended that anything we do positive is automatically spat upon. Beat a team from your league? Worst team they’ve ever fielded and they shot themselves in the foot with mistakes. Play you close? Well the coaches didn’t want to show anything to our conference opponents and the officials let you get away with holding all day. We don’t hear a lot of admission that we actually fielded a team capable of staying on the field with you.

You can play an FCS and three of our conference mates and go 3-5 in your conference and people are telling us Coach Bubba really has it going. We go 8-4 and lose to two teams from your league and its nothing much to talk about. I remember when Troy beat Oklahoma State, and it was dismissed as what happens when you play on the road. The Cowboys were good enough to win in Waco, Lincoln, and in a bowl game that year, but there no was respect for Troy in beating them. My blood still boils thinking about Lee Corso declaring that Northern Illinois couldn’t compete in any BCS league after they beat Alabama, Maryland and Iowa State all in the same season. Maybe if he’d confessed to having been fired as failed coach at NIU it wouldn’t have made me so angry.

Drive around your community and look at the cars. If you see “Arkansas State” or “North Texas” or whatever the local team is outside of the rich six leagues, you can see that and with some certainty conclude the driver either is a student at the school, an alumnus, or a relative of a student.

Now look at the cars with the “Arkansas”, “Texas”, or “Oklahoma” logos. You cannot make the assumption they went to college there or any place else. You can’t safely guess they know a student there. You cannot even assume they’ve ever even been inside the stadium. You’ve got a pack of hanger-ons who really hurt the reputation of your good fans.

Most of the name schools were playing football before our school was founded, and playing at the top level before we became four year colleges. You get buckets of money from people who have no direct connection to the school while we really have to depend on our alums. The problem is many of our alums are pretty pathetic people who are terribly insecure and want to fit in with the people they do business with. They’d rather support the local version of the NFL under the guise of college football than support the school they went to. So we don’t get to rely on our alums, but rather the subset of alums who aren’t pathetic bandwagon jumpers.

Every year we get told if we get a good RPI in basketball we’ll be in the NCAA Tournament and every year we watch one of our peers get left at home while five or six schools rated worse in RPI not only get in but get better seeds. It’s of course about that tough schedule, never mind that 75% of that RPI rating is a measure of the quality of the schedule.

We go into the season knowing that undefeated might get us in the BCS but not the title game. Money talks in this business so we hit the road just as most of you don’t know what a non-conference road game looks like. Florida hasn’t played a regular season non-conference game outside of the state since 1991. LSU’s trip to Washington was the first out-of-state non-conference trip since 2005. Imagine the Dallas Cowboys being able to play 10 or 12 home games every year and the LA Lakers playing 60 home games. That’s what the current system is like.

We aren’t asking you to fear us. Just respect us as an opponent that is going to work hard. We want you to realize that Scout and Rivals don’t get ‘em all right and we do have some players who could play for you. The NFL believes we do. We’re just living the dream of trying to be better today than we were yesterday. Why that causes scorn I don’t understand, but we aren’t going to back down and play the patsy no matter how much money you pay us.
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Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:33 pm
by ∞∞∞
Amen. The BCS is THE reason I stopped watching NCAA football a few years back until ODU got a team this year...and I'm only gonna follow FCS football 'cause the system is VASTLY superior.

And the way it has creeped its way into NCAA basketball is very unsettling, and now I'm being pushed away from liking my favorite collegiate sport.

Really, the whole BCS thing is immoral, and is beginning to affect the integrity (ie. a fair playing field) of more than one sport.

Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:03 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Parity is going to eventually catch up to these guys... it already is - witness BYU over Oklahoma (and don't give me the Sam Bradford cop-out, that game was just as close when he went out) witness Boise over Oregon... witness Richmond and Nova and W&M over the ACC... and all the talk about how it's a black eye by the the FBS-dominated sports media seems to forget that this isn't the first time, and it's becoming less and less rare.

FCS squads are taking down BCS schools with enough regularity to suggest that the time may soon come when they stop scheduling "patsy games"... because they'd sooner do that than risk losing face.

me? i'm an optimist... I'm hopeful that sooner rather than later, we get a D-I playoff for all of the college game, and we have December Madness... it may not happen any time soon (the focacta bowl system is too profitable at this point) but I think it will happen someday - I'm hopeful

More likely in the short term... another round of conference re-alignment where the MWC brings in a few new teams (likely Boise, Fresno, UTEP and maybe Hawaii) and brings UTSA in when they are ready... and starts issuing big challenges - like a conference to conference showdown during the non-conference season (which I think would be good for business anyway)... to prove that they are, in terms of football, on par with the biggies... and maybe better than the ACC or Big East.

Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:01 pm
by AZGrizFan
Me, I hope they NEVER get a playoff system. It's what makes us different, and them getting a playoff system will make FCS all that much more irrelevant in their eyes (if that was actually possible). I'd much rather see BCS expand to include a beefed up MWC, or by including MWC and dropping the Big East or ACC (which isn't likely to happen)....

I LIKE being the biggest playoff system in town.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:21 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:Me, I hope they NEVER get a playoff system. It's what makes us different, and them getting a playoff system will make FCS all that much more irrelevant in their eyes (if that was actually possible). I'd much rather see BCS expand to include a beefed up MWC, or by including MWC and dropping the Big East or ACC (which isn't likely to happen)....

I LIKE being the biggest playoff system in town.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
Agreed on all parts, Z. :geek:

Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:43 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
AZGrizFan wrote:Me, I hope they NEVER get a playoff system. It's what makes us different, and them getting a playoff system will make FCS all that much more irrelevant in their eyes (if that was actually possible). I'd much rather see BCS expand to include a beefed up MWC, or by including MWC and dropping the Big East or ACC (which isn't likely to happen)....

I LIKE being the biggest playoff system in town.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
You misunderstand - I mean integrating the FCS and FBS to reunite D-I with a playoff system... more like basketball, but with fewer teams in the postseason

Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:03 am
by Wedgebuster
Mountain West is one of the top three conferences this year.

It is for outrageous instances like this fact that the monopoly was created. Seems to be working just as planned.

Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:19 am
by AZGrizFan
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Me, I hope they NEVER get a playoff system. It's what makes us different, and them getting a playoff system will make FCS all that much more irrelevant in their eyes (if that was actually possible). I'd much rather see BCS expand to include a beefed up MWC, or by including MWC and dropping the Big East or ACC (which isn't likely to happen)....

I LIKE being the biggest playoff system in town.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
You misunderstand - I mean integrating the FCS and FBS to reunite D-I with a playoff system... more like basketball, but with fewer teams in the postseason
Now THAT I REALLY hope never happens. There's no WAY the two levels will ever play the same level of football, particularly at the playoff level. And that would all but KILL the FCS identity.

Re: Dear Rich Six, Why We Hate You

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:57 am
by Appaholic
AZGrizFan wrote:Me, I hope they NEVER get a playoff system. It's what makes us different, and them getting a playoff system will make FCS all that much more irrelevant in their eyes (if that was actually possible). I'd much rather see BCS expand to include a beefed up MWC, or by including MWC and dropping the Big East or ACC (which isn't likely to happen)....

I LIKE being the biggest playoff system in town.... :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
Preach on Brother AZ! Love the slight air of superiority I feel when discussing football with FBS fans....you know, we have a true champion and such....especially the WalMart fans who never attended the big schools to begin with...it's what sets us apart...sure, we can't consistently compete with the big boys, but our system is truer, more pure, form of football and we win enough to piss them off....don't change a thing, just don't ever move up APP....