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random question that popped into my head tonight:

If a team scores a touchdown as time expires at the end of the game (either a go-ahead score, or they are more than 2 points behind after the 6 points are added, so that any extra points/conversions don't really matter), is there a rule that prevents them from kicking the XP? Or do teams just elect not to in that situation. Or maybe they DO kick it all the time anyway, as I can't remember a specific instance of this scenario right off the top of my head.

Perhaps kind of a dumb question, but oh well.

So where is TT when you need him? Or, from our board, SWT85

Seriously. My take is that time is never in play when there is a TD and the PAT (or 2 pt convers.) is part and parcel of it. I would, therefore, think whether it is taken, or not, is a coaching decision. When it is the end of the game and you have just scored (to win), it is just adding one more play to the game and likely not a necessity to subject the team to that.

JayJ79 wrote:Or maybe they DO kick it all the time anyway, as I can't remember a specific instance of this scenario right off the top of my head.

this happened to us at SAM last year. We didn't take the PAT after we scored a TD to win in overtime.

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I'm not an expert but from just watching both college and NFL football it looks like that you take the conversion during regulation play but you don't take it in overtime (NFL's sudden death) or in the overtime when time expires (college).

In college, since a blocked XP kick could be run back for two the other way, you'd have to run an extra point play. If the TD gives you a one-point or two-point win, you'd probably want to take a knee for the extra point.

UAalum72 wrote:In college, since a blocked XP kick could be run back for two the other way, you'd have to run an extra point play. If the TD gives you a one-point or two-point win, you'd probably want to take a knee for the extra point.

Just talked with someone. The XP/conv has to be done unless a TD is the last play of the game and time has run out. In that case (and OT) coaches may forgo it/them. (and usually do from my experience)

Thanks, thread-ender!


(j/k about the thread-ender bit, but sincere in the thanks)

UAalum72 wrote:In college, since a blocked XP kick could be run back for two the other way, you'd have to run an extra point play. If the TD gives you a one-point or two-point win, you'd probably want to take a knee for the extra point.

Yep, just ask Bobby Lamb about that one, he has recent(somewhat)experience with that decision.

I know that in the NFL they always kick the extra point at the end of the game. The coaches could kneel on it but rarely do. IN Sudden death OT they do not.

The NFL still runs the untimed down at the end of the game regardless of the margin (3 point lead no time left) because of the gambling spread. It is very important and therefore they always run it.

I assume that with the lack of need to keep gamblers happy for the NCAA they would not necessairly run the play in the name of sportsmanship/running up the score.