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Isnt it fitting that a game as crazy as this be played on the craziest day of the Year?


WEBER STATEvs MONTANA


Will the Big Sky be decided on this day? Yes? No? any thoughts? I know this is reaching pretty far into the season, and we dont know if either team will turn out as expected, but what the heck just for kicks.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:Isnt it fitting that a game as crazy as this be played on the craziest day of the Year?

WEBER STATEvs MONTANA

Will the Big Sky be decided on this day? Yes? No? any thoughts? I know this is reaching pretty far into the season, and we dont know if either team will turn out as expected, but what the heck just for kicks.

In response to Mr. T's post on another thread, I think the game at Montana will be one of the "defining" games of the 2009 season.

Of course it will, who else is fighting for the league title? I know we aren't lol

I hope WSU can make it 6-0 to get there, that alone will be tough regardless of rankings/awards/nominations....

http://www.weberhoops.com/football.htm

Must win at PSU, at EWU, MSU

weberwildcat wrote:I hope WSU can make it 6-0 to get there, that alone will be tough regardless of rankings/awards/nominations....

http://www.weberhoops.com/football.htm

Must win at PSU, at EWU, MSU

And honestly, I think the hardest one out of those 3 is the game at home to the Bobcats.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:Isnt it fitting that a game as crazy as this be played on the craziest day of the Year?

...... and we dont know if either team will turn out as expected, but what the heck just for kicks.

Look, you Weber state fans have GOT to spare me the bs. Montana has won like 13 straight titles! Weber is just now crossing the finish line.

Weber will NOT win 2 back 2 back titles stop dreaming.

You Weber fans are constantly living in a fairy tale, with:
+fairy tale conf sweeps
+a fairy tale sold out Stewart Stadium
+fairy tale Halloween Conf championship games
+fairy tale Weber st. NC trophys

I mean COME ON......weber state is getting better and the won a "slice" of the title. But lets not act like they have Montana-like consistancy. Dont forget who killed your dream in the last game of the reg season, & the other team that killed your NC dream.

BlackFalkin wrote:You Weber fans are constantly living in a fairy tale, with:
+fairy tale conf sweeps
+a fairy tale sold out Stewart Stadium
+fairy tale Halloween Conf championship games
+fairy tale Weber st. NC trophys

I mean COME ON......weber state is getting better and the won a "slice" of the title. But lets not act like they have Montana-like consistancy. Dont forget who killed your dream in the last game of the reg season, & the other team that killed your NC dream.

we aint montana, we dont have NC dreams...just big sky title dreams.

Wildcat Ryan wrote:

weberwildcat wrote:I hope WSU can make it 6-0 to get there, that alone will be tough regardless of rankings/awards/nominations....

http://www.weberhoops.com/football.htm

Must win at PSU, at EWU, MSU

And honestly, I think the hardest one out of those 3 is the game at home to the Bobcats.

I'd say all three are pretty equal in terms of difficulty...

1. Weber/EWU---Eagles seem to have the Wildcats number the last couple years, and Cheney is a tough place to play.
2. Weber/PSU---Wildcats won the last time they played in Portland, but the Vikings are still not an easy win for opponents in Portland.
3. Weber/MSU---Wildcats have a great team and any game in Ogden will be tough for opponents, but the Bobcats are not going to be a pushover this year either.

Realistically, 6-0 for the Wildcats is a stretch. I would say they would be probably 5-1. Also, keep in mind that both the Wildcats and the Grizzlies have a trap game before the big game (10-24, Montana at Sacramento State; Weber at Northern Colorado). If both are undefeated on 10-24, there will be tremendous pressure for both to win on the road against the two upstarts of the conference to make this game a big game. If both are undefeated, recent conference history suggests one will lose their trap game. Remains to be seen.

weberwildcat wrote:

BlackFalkin wrote:You Weber fans are constantly living in a fairy tale, with:
+fairy tale conf sweeps
+a fairy tale sold out Stewart Stadium
+fairy tale Halloween Conf championship games
+fairy tale Weber st. NC trophys

I mean COME ON......weber state is getting better and the won a "slice" of the title. But lets not act like they have Montana-like consistancy. Dont forget who killed your dream in the last game of the reg season, & the other team that killed your NC dream.

we aint montana, we dont have NC dreams...just big sky title dreams.

Nope. Not me. I want Weber to win the National Championship.

No apologies to Falkin or anyone else.

JALMOND wrote:

Wildcat Ryan wrote:
And honestly, I think the hardest one out of those 3 is the game at home to the Bobcats.

I'd say all three are pretty equal in terms of difficulty...

1. Weber/EWU---Eagles seem to have the Wildcats number the last couple years, and Cheney is a tough place to play.
2. Weber/PSU---Wildcats won the last time they played in Portland, but the Vikings are still not an easy win for opponents in Portland.
3. Weber/MSU---Wildcats have a great team and any game in Ogden will be tough for opponents, but the Bobcats are not going to be a pushover this year either.

Realistically, 6-0 for the Wildcats is a stretch. I would say they would be probably 5-1. Also, keep in mind that both the Wildcats and the Grizzlies have a trap game before the big game (10-24, Montana at Sacramento State; Weber at Northern Colorado). If both are undefeated on 10-24, there will be tremendous pressure for both to win on the road against the two upstarts of the conference to make this game a big game. If both are undefeated, recent conference history suggests one will lose their trap game. Remains to be seen.

Nice analysis, JALMOND!

Weber will have as much chance to win in Missoula on Halloween as they had last year in December. That was none.

kemajic wrote:Weber will have as much chance to win in Missoula on Halloween as they had last year in December. That was none.

You're such a prick. Do you know anything about football?

Man, Kem. You're a lightning rod wherever you post. This game will more than likely be the game of the season in the Big Sky, but winning in Missoula will be very difficult for the Wildcats. The Cats have not won in Missoula since 1987, that's a pretty long time.

BigSkyBears wrote:

kemajic wrote:Weber will have as much chance to win in Missoula on Halloween as they had last year in December. That was none.

You're such a prick. Do you know anything about football?

Pretty sure he knows a helluva lot more than you think.

kemajic wrote:Weber will have as much chance to win in Missoula on Halloween as they had last year in December. That was none.

Always difficult to win in Wa-Griz, but not impossible.

Even though Weber's 45-28 margin over Montana in Ogden was greater than the 24-13 Griz win in Missoula, both games were closer than the scores indicated, and neither game was a beat-down.

From the Big Sky Conference web site:

Team Statistics (Final)
Big Sky Conference
Montana vs Weber State (Oct 04, 2008 at Ogden, UT)

UM WSU

FIRST DOWNS................... 20 20
Rushing..................... 10 10
Passing..................... 9 10
Penalty..................... 1 0
NET YARDS RUSHING............. 115 192
Rushing Attempts............ 40 31
Average Per Rush............ 2.9 6.2
Yards Gained Rushing........ 161 194
Yards Lost Rushing.......... 46 2
NET YARDS PASSING............. 295 237
Completions-Attempts-Int.... 16-32-2 21-31-1
Average Per Attempt......... 9.2 7.6
Average Per Completion...... 18.4 11.3
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS........... 410 429


Team Statistics (Final)
Big Sky Conference
Weber State vs Montana (Dec 06, 2008 at Missoula, MT)

WSU UM

FIRST DOWNS................... 19 22
Rushing......................... 6 14
Passing.......................... 12 7
Penalty.......................... 1 1
NET YARDS RUSHING............. 116 314
Rushing Attempts............... 24 50
Average Per Rush............... 4.8 6.3
Yards Gained Rushing.......... 129 319
Yards Lost Rushing............ 13 5
NET YARDS PASSING............. 270 113
Completions-Attempts-Int.... 19-40-1 8-19-0
Average Per Attempt............ 6.8 5.9
Average Per Completion......... 14.2 14.1
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS........... 386 427

native wrote: Always difficult to win in Wa-Griz, but not impossible.

Not Impossible for Eastern Washington.... But impossible for Weber St. Weber just lost to UM @ WG, and Wildcat history repeats itself.

Willie wrote:

BigSkyBears wrote:

You're such a prick. Do you know anything about football?

Pretty sure he knows a helluva lot more than you think.

What? Knowing how many attended a Montana game in 1952??

Right now, on paper, it looks like this game will be the biggest game in the Sky this upcoming season. However, I believe, that the Sky, from top to bottom, has improved, and that every game will be a battle for every team. There are some really talented teams in the Sky, and each of them have a chance to pull an upset. If it wasn't for the the post-season ban, I think Eastern would be very hard to beat, but I think that ban is going to cause some problems for the Eagles. Regardless, they have a great team that could ruin some teams seasons, they can't play for a championship, but they definitely can play for pride and respect. Also, MSU is coming back with arguably one of the best defenses in the league, and they could turn some heads, but they really need to work out some offensive problems to become a contender, first...QB. SAC, UNC, PSU, and NAU are all dangerous and each could be the dark horse in the league. Every week, every game is important. You win and earn respect on the field.
Kemajic...You say its impossible for Weber to win in Missula, yet they already have won there before, even though the last time was 22 years ago, wouldn't that pretty much mean that there is a possibililty? Also, games are played in the present, not in history. Who cares what has happened before...thats HISTORY. Its great to look at the record books, and thump your chest with pride. But; nonetheless, those things already happened and what has previously happened, sure as hell doesn't and wont dictate what will necessarily happen in the future. I'm sure that Weber will have as much chance of winning at a start of the game as Montana... 50/50.
I will say thought... WA-GRIZ is one hell of a great atmosphere for football.

native wrote:

kemajic wrote:Weber will have as much chance to win in Missoula on Halloween as they had last year in December. That was none.

Always difficult to win in Wa-Griz, but not impossible.

Even though Weber's 45-28 margin over Montana in Ogden was greater than the 24-13 Griz win in Missoula, both games were closer than the scores indicated, and neither game was a beat-down.

From the Big Sky Conference web site:

Team Statistics (Final)
Big Sky Conference
Montana vs Weber State (Oct 04, 2008 at Ogden, UT)

UM WSU

FIRST DOWNS................... 20 20
Rushing..................... 10 10
Passing..................... 9 10
Penalty..................... 1 0
NET YARDS RUSHING............. 115 192
Rushing Attempts............ 40 31
Average Per Rush............ 2.9 6.2
Yards Gained Rushing........ 161 194
Yards Lost Rushing.......... 46 2
NET YARDS PASSING............. 295 237
Completions-Attempts-Int.... 16-32-2 21-31-1
Average Per Attempt......... 9.2 7.6
Average Per Completion...... 18.4 11.3
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS........... 410 429


Team Statistics (Final)
Big Sky Conference
Weber State vs Montana (Dec 06, 2008 at Missoula, MT)

WSU UM

FIRST DOWNS................... 19 22
Rushing......................... 6 14
Passing.......................... 12 7
Penalty.......................... 1 1
NET YARDS RUSHING............. 116 314
Rushing Attempts............... 24 50
Average Per Rush............... 4.8 6.3
Yards Gained Rushing.......... 129 319
Yards Lost Rushing............ 13 5
NET YARDS PASSING............. 270 113
Completions-Attempts-Int.... 19-40-1 8-19-0
Average Per Attempt............ 6.8 5.9
Average Per Completion......... 14.2 14.1
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS........... 386 427

If I remember correctly, UM was sacked like 47 times in game one. They elected to go to a ball-control offense in the playoff game (19 attempts vs 32 in the reg season game), putting the outcome in Chase Reynolds' hands. THAT alone is going to keep the score closer, given the amount of clock our drives ate.

ilovebaker wrote:Right now, on paper, it looks like this game will be the biggest game in the Sky this upcoming season. However, I believe, that the Sky, from top to bottom, has improved, and that every game will be a battle for every team. There are some really talented teams in the Sky, and each of them have a chance to pull an upset. If it wasn't for the the post-season ban, I think Eastern would be very hard to beat, but I think that ban is going to cause some problems for the Eagles. Regardless, they have a great team that could ruin some teams seasons, they can't play for a championship, but they definitely can play for pride and respect. Also, MSU is coming back with arguably one of the best defenses in the league, and they could turn some heads, but they really need to work out some offensive problems to become a contender, first...QB. SAC, UNC, PSU, and NAU are all dangerous and each could be the dark horse in the league. Every week, every game is important. You win and earn respect on the field.
Kemajic...You say its impossible for Weber to win in Missula, yet they already have won there before, even though the last time was 22 years ago, wouldn't that pretty much mean that there is a possibililty? Also, games are played in the present, not in history. Who cares what has happened before...thats HISTORY. Its great to look at the record books, and thump your chest with pride. But; nonetheless, those things already happened and what has previously happened, sure as hell doesn't and wont dictate what will necessarily happen in the future. I'm sure that Weber will have as much chance of winning at a start of the game as Montana... 50/50. I will say thought... WA-GRIZ is one hell of a great atmosphere for football.

You had me RIIIIIIIGHT up to there. History says the sun has come up each day since the dawn of time. We can't BANK on the sun coming up tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure it will. Just like I'm PRETTY sure Weber will lose in Missoula again. You have a chance----but it sure as HELL ain't 50-50.


So you're TELLIN' me there's a chance!!!!

AZGrizFan wrote:

ilovebaker wrote:Right now, on paper, it looks like this game will be the biggest game in the Sky this upcoming season. However, I believe, that the Sky, from top to bottom, has improved, and that every game will be a battle for every team. There are some really talented teams in the Sky, and each of them have a chance to pull an upset. If it wasn't for the the post-season ban, I think Eastern would be very hard to beat, but I think that ban is going to cause some problems for the Eagles. Regardless, they have a great team that could ruin some teams seasons, they can't play for a championship, but they definitely can play for pride and respect. Also, MSU is coming back with arguably one of the best defenses in the league, and they could turn some heads, but they really need to work out some offensive problems to become a contender, first...QB. SAC, UNC, PSU, and NAU are all dangerous and each could be the dark horse in the league. Every week, every game is important. You win and earn respect on the field.
Kemajic...You say its impossible for Weber to win in Missula, yet they already have won there before, even though the last time was 22 years ago, wouldn't that pretty much mean that there is a possibililty? Also, games are played in the present, not in history. Who cares what has happened before...thats HISTORY. Its great to look at the record books, and thump your chest with pride. But; nonetheless, those things already happened and what has previously happened, sure as hell doesn't and wont dictate what will necessarily happen in the future. I'm sure that Weber will have as much chance of winning at a start of the game as Montana... 50/50. I will say thought... WA-GRIZ is one hell of a great atmosphere for football.

You had me RIIIIIIIGHT up to there. History says the sun has come up each day since the dawn of time. We can't BANK on the sun coming up tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure it will. Just like I'm PRETTY sure Weber will lose in Missoula again. You have a chance----but it sure as HELL ain't 50-50.


So you're TELLIN' me there's a chance!!!!

If the game was going to be played the first game of the season, I'd give the edge to Montana. But really, we are talking about a lot of football between 9-5 and 10-31. I, for one, will withhold judgement on this until that week. Too much football between then and now.

You cant triple stamp a double stamp....btw a bunch of dumb n dumber was filmed in utah. some in ogden.

dante's inferno where they kill the guy with the peppers was in ogden. same with the big gulps scene. it was a sad day here when they tore down that 7-11!

this pic of the kiesel store is in the background of the 7-11 scene. dumb n dumber is very important to ogdonians...i guess since we have so many dummies!



wsu spirit squad at ogden parade last week

http://www.nps.gov/archive/wica/Sounds/Elk_Bugling.wav

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