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Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:08 am
by danefan
http://www.nhfootballreport.com/2009/05 ... _no_9.html

1. Appalachian State
2. Richmond
3. Northern Iowa
4. Villanova
5. James Madison
6. Montana
7. Weber State
8. Southern Illinois
9. New Hampshire
10. Wofford
11. William & Mary
12. South Carolina State
13. Jacksonville State
14. Elon
15. Massachusetts
16. Central Arkansas
17. Maine
18. Holy Cross
19. Cal Poly
20. Tennessee-Martin
21. Grambling State
22. Texas State
23. Harvard
24. Georgia Southern
25. Eastern Washington

Decent ranking.

A few quips I have:
Umass shouldn't be ranked above Maine;
Holy Cross is about 5 spots too high; and
Harvard shouldn't be ranked at all.

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:16 am
by dbackjon
South Carolina State at 12?
Harvard?
UMass at 15?
Grambling?

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:20 am
by ChetSteadman
I'm not going to argue with the top spot :D , but most of these preseason football magazine polls are done by name recognition (as are most BCS preseason polls) and how the team finished last year.

SCSU made the playoffs, and gave App a good game - put 'em at #12! Grambling? They play that game on NBC every season. And Harvard? Gotta have an Ivy in there, so why not?

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:24 am
by danefan
dbackjon wrote:South Carolina State at 12?
Harvard?
UMass at 15?
Grambling?
SC State is really good and isn't out of this world at 12.

There is one further glaring mistake: South Dakota State should be ranked in the high teens, low 20's.

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:25 am
by danefan
BeauFoster wrote:I'm not going to argue with the top spot :D , but most of these preseason football magazine polls are done by name recognition (as are most BCS preseason polls) and how the team finished last year.

SCSU made the playoffs, and gave App a good game - put 'em at #12! Grambling? They play that game on NBC every season. And Harvard? Gotta have an Ivy in there, so why not?

Sorry man - but you just pushed my button.

Please explain to me why, as you say, you "gotta have an Ivy in there"?

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:29 am
by dbackjon
SCSU maybe a good team, but until they win a game in the playoffs, or win a big regular season game, they are suspect. Top 20 - OK. Top 12, NOPE


No Albany either

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:33 am
by ChetSteadman
danefan wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:I'm not going to argue with the top spot :D , but most of these preseason football magazine polls are done by name recognition (as are most BCS preseason polls) and how the team finished last year.

SCSU made the playoffs, and gave App a good game - put 'em at #12! Grambling? They play that game on NBC every season. And Harvard? Gotta have an Ivy in there, so why not?

Sorry man - but you just pushed my button.

Please explain to me why, as you say, you "gotta have an Ivy in there"?

I was being sarcastic as to how these magazines determine their rankings. Very few actually put any thought in it, sometimes it seems that they just throw shit it - as in "we've gotta put an Ivy" or "we've gotta have at least 3 from the Big 10"

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:35 am
by danefan
BeauFoster wrote:
danefan wrote:

Sorry man - but you just pushed my button.

Please explain to me why, as you say, you "gotta have an Ivy in there"?

I was being sarcastic as to how these magazines determine their rankings. Very few actually put any thought in it, sometimes it seems that they just throw shit it - as in "we've gotta put an Ivy" or "we've gotta have at least 3 from the Big 10"
OK, good. Sorry to jump down your throat....the thing is there are many many people who vote in these polls (regular season polls too) who really abide by that philosophy. They always put an Ivy and a PL team in there no matter what.

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:40 am
by ChetSteadman
No worries - that's exactly what I was making fun of. Besides, we all know that preseason polls are crap (I guess they aren't Scottish).

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:47 am
by BlueHen86
danefan wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:

I was being sarcastic as to how these magazines determine their rankings. Very few actually put any thought in it, sometimes it seems that they just throw shit it - as in "we've gotta put an Ivy" or "we've gotta have at least 3 from the Big 10"
OK, good. Sorry to jump down your throat....the thing is there are many many people who vote in these polls (regular season polls too) who really abide by that philosophy. They always put an Ivy and a PL team in there no matter what.
Only because there aren't 25 CAA teams to rank. :P

Re: Athlon Sports Preseason FCS Ranking

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:54 am
by Ivytalk
danefan wrote:
BeauFoster wrote:I'm not going to argue with the top spot :D , but most of these preseason football magazine polls are done by name recognition (as are most BCS preseason polls) and how the team finished last year.

SCSU made the playoffs, and gave App a good game - put 'em at #12! Grambling? They play that game on NBC every season. And Harvard? Gotta have an Ivy in there, so why not?

Sorry man - but you just pushed my button.

Please explain to me why, as you say, you "gotta have an Ivy in there"?[/quote]

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS!!!! :mrgreen:

Gawd, danefan, I thought you'd get it by now. :roll: :lol: