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Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:39 pm
by Col Hogan
According to the NCAA, the schools with the toughest schedules in 2008 were:
1 - JMU
2 - Richmond
3 - Delaware
4 - Villanova
5 - Massachusetts
6 - Appalachian State
7 - Weber State
8 - Chattanoga
9 - Dartmouth
10 - Lehigh
Complete list (in .pdf format) can be found at
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2008/Internet/ ... s_cumm.pdf
Not bad...top five teams are CAA (our cupcakes can beat your cupcakes)
So, what's the previous seasons record for this years schedule????
For UMass it looks like this...
Opponents were 75-64 .539 last year.
Kansas State 5-7
JMU 12-2
Albany 9-3
Richmond 13-3
UNH 10-3
Maine 8-5
Stony Brook 5-6
Delaware 4-8
Hofstra 4-8
Rhode Island 3-9
Northeastern 2-10
(Courtesy UMass74 Blog)
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 3:42 pm
by dbackjon
NAU was pretty low - 96th, due to Idaho State, UNC and SUU.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:55 pm
by Wildcat Ryan
Its not hard to believe Weber being that high,
@ Wyoming
@ Colorado State
@ Portland State
@ Eastern Washington
@ Montana
Montana State
Cal Poly
Northern Arizona
Tough.
Thats McBride for ya, always loves to schedule tough games.
GO WILDCATS

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:16 pm
by Catattack
Is this list calculated by using the 2008 records of our 2009 opponents?
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:38 pm
by AZGrizFan
Col Hogan wrote:According to the NCAA, the schools with the toughest schedules in 2008 were:
1 - JMU
2 - Richmond
3 - Delaware
4 - Villanova
5 - Massachusetts
6 - Appalachian State
7 - Weber State
8 - Chattanoga
9 - Dartmouth
10 - Lehigh
Complete list (in .pdf format) can be found at
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2008/Internet/ ... s_cumm.pdf
Not bad...top five teams are CAA (our cupcakes can beat your cupcakes)
So, what's the previous seasons record for this years schedule????
For UMass it looks like this...
Opponents were 75-64 .539 last year.
Kansas State 5-7
JMU 12-2
Albany 9-3
Richmond 13-3
UNH 10-3
Maine 8-5
Stony Brook 5-6
Delaware 4-8
Hofstra 4-8
Rhode Island 3-9
Northeastern 2-10
(Courtesy UMass74 Blog)
Actually, it's because you all get credit for playing a bunch of teams that pad their records playing a bunch of OTHER crappy teams.

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:48 pm
by Mountaineer
Christ, Big Sky.
7. Weber State
14. Montana
47. Idaho State
48. Eastern Washington
79. Montana State
84. Sacramento State
88. Northern Colorado
96. Northern Arizona
106. Portland State
2/9 in middle 1/3 of schedule toughness
5/9 in bottom 1/3 of schedule toughness
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:49 pm
by Mountaineer
And before you try to go after the SoCon.
6. Appalachian State
8. Chattanooga
20. The Citadel
24. Elon
26. Furman
30. Samford
33. Western Carolina
34. Wofford
82. Georgia Southern
8/9 in top 1/3 of schedule toughness

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:51 pm
by AZGrizFan
Mountaineer wrote:And before you try to go after the SoCon.
6. Appalachian State
8. Chattanooga
20. The Citadel
24. Elon
26. Furman
30. Samford
33. Western Carolina
34. Wofford
82. Georgia Southern
8/9 in top 1/3 of schedule toughness

Right. You get credit for beating up each other, the BSC doesn't. We get it.

yourself.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:52 pm
by AZGrizFan
Mountaineer wrote:Christ, Big Sky.
7. Weber State
14. Montana
47. Idaho State
48. Eastern Washington
79. Montana State
84. Sacramento State
88. Northern Colorado
96. Northern Arizona
106. Portland State
2/9 in middle 1/3 of schedule toughness
5/9 in bottom 1/3 of schedule toughness
And this makes no sense. Montana should have the easiest schedule in the BSC, since they don't play Montana, and OOC is 3 cupcakes.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:56 pm
by Mountaineer
AZGrizFan wrote:
Right. You get credit for beating up each other, the BSC doesn't. We get it.

yourself.
Of course. The CAA and SoCon play a tougher brand of football.
Congratulations to Montana on your guaranteed 12th in a row Big Sky championship.

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:57 pm
by AZGrizFan
Mountaineer wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Right. You get credit for beating up each other, the BSC doesn't. We get it.

yourself.
Of course. The CAA and SoCon play a tougher brand of football.
Congratulations to Montana on your guaranteed 12th in a row Big Sky championship.

I'm sorry, WHERE exactly was the SoCon representation in the NC game this year?

Oh, that's right. You lost to the SAME team we lost to. Get over yourself, the magic is GONE.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:13 pm
by 93henfan
For Delaware:
EDIT: Missed Nova the first time
Opponents were 86-54 .614 last year.
Yep, it's a bitch being in the CAA South.
West Chester 9-4
Richmond 13-3
Delaware State 5-6
William & Mary 7-4
Maine 8-5
Massachusetts 7-5
Towson 3-9
James Madison 12-2
Hofstra 4-8
Navy 8-5
Villanova 10-3
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:14 pm
by AZGrizFan
93henfan wrote:For Delaware:
Opponents were 76-51 .598 last year.
West Chester 9-4
Richmond 13-3
Delaware State 5-6
William & Mary 7-4
Maine 8-5
Massachusetts 7-5
Towson 3-9
James Madison 12-2
Hofstra 4-8
Navy 8-5
You guys are playing DSU this year?

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:16 pm
by 93henfan
AZGrizFan wrote:
You guys are playing DSU this year?

Yep. Them and WCUPA look to be the only cruise-control games on the sched. Some would mention Towson or Hofstra, but they always play us tough, so I do not take them lightly.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:28 pm
by BlueHen86
AZGrizFan wrote:93henfan wrote:For Delaware:
Opponents were 76-51 .598 last year.
West Chester 9-4
Richmond 13-3
Delaware State 5-6
William & Mary 7-4
Maine 8-5
Massachusetts 7-5
Towson 3-9
James Madison 12-2
Hofstra 4-8
Navy 8-5
You guys are playing DSU this year?

I think UD added DSU to replace Furman on the schedule.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:31 pm
by AZGrizFan
93henfan wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
You guys are playing DSU this year?

Yep. Them and WCUPA look to be the only cruise-control games on the sched. Some would mention Towson or Hofstra, but they always play us tough, so I do not take them lightly.
The fact that they "play you tough" doesn't mean they're not cruise-control games. Much like most of Montana's schedule.

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:31 pm
by Catattack
The link has MSU with 47-57
2009 schedule
Michigan State 9-4
Dixie State 4-7
North. Col. 1-10
Weber 10-4
NAU 6-5
South Dakota 6-5
EWU 6-5
ISU 1-11
PSU 4-7
Sac. St. 6-6
UM 14-2
67-66
It's still not very good but I'm just wondering were my math is wrong or is it just my education

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:37 pm
by BlueHen86
If by "crappy teams" you mean "OOC teams", I agree.

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:45 pm
by AZGrizFan
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:52 pm
by BlueHen86
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:54 pm
by grizzaholic
BlueHen86 wrote:
You left off Big Sky.
The entire BSC could win every OOC, including all FBS, games in the same season, beat each up in conference play and get 2 teams to the playoffs and you and Col Hogan would be there touting how the BSC is weak.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 7:58 pm
by BlueHen86
grizzaholic wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
You left off Big Sky.
The entire BSC could win every OOC, including all FBS, games in the same season, beat each up in conference play and get 2 teams to the playoffs and
you and Col Hogan would be there touting how the BSC is weak.
Wrong! That is the first time that I have EVER bashed the Big Sky, and only then 'cause I was lobbed a softball. You guys have some pretty strong teams, but Montana wins so often that some of the other teams don't get full credit.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:05 pm
by grizzaholic
BlueHen86 wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
The entire BSC could win every OOC, including all FBS, games in the same season, beat each up in conference play and get 2 teams to the playoffs and you and Col Hogan would be there touting how the BSC is weak.
Wrong! That is the first time that I have EVER bashed the Big Sky, and only then 'cause I was lobbed a softball. You guys have some pretty strong teams, but Montana wins so often that some of the other teams don't get full credit.
Whoa....didn't see who I was posting with. I thought you were 89Hen. My bad. Please accept an olive......please accept a six pack of beer and a cigar as an apology.
Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:08 pm
by BlueHen86
grizzaholic wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
Wrong! That is the first time that I have EVER bashed the Big Sky, and only then 'cause I was lobbed a softball. You guys have some pretty strong teams, but Montana wins so often that some of the other teams don't get full credit.
Whoa....didn't see who I was posting with.
I thought you were 89Hen. My bad. Please accept an olive......please accept a six pack of beer and a cigar as an apology.
LOL, I was thinking that. No problem.

Re: Toughest 2008 Sked/2009 Opponents Record
Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:46 pm
by MrTitleist
BlueHen86 wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
The entire BSC could win every OOC, including all FBS, games in the same season, beat each up in conference play and get 2 teams to the playoffs and you and Col Hogan would be there touting how the BSC is weak.
Wrong! That is the first time that I have EVER bashed the Big Sky, and only then 'cause I was lobbed a softball. You guys have some pretty strong teams, but Montana wins so often that some of the other teams don't get full credit.
What other teams?