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93henfan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:54 pm So the real question is, does this mean no more BDKJMU on the board after 2021?
Maybe more like after 2022, as JMU would be transitioning next season. Still considered FCS 2022 and FBS 2023?

But you are right, why would someone be on a FCS football board if their school wasn’t FCS?

I would have to come back for the 2024 elections though..
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Pwns wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:14 pm Something Resembling I would like to see the new CUSA be, though it won't happen:
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Ibanez wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:02 pm

Heard the rumors, but thats good. CUSA will have no choice but to add NMSU and Liberty and then raid the WAC/ASun for the most aspiring candidates.
Yeah...but the C-USA already looks like a sinking ship. How many people want to jump aboard that.
Most likely the last attempt to be able to move up for any FCS schools for the next 10+ years. Unless they want to wait for the WAC and ASun to get the ball rolling on their (still potential) FBS conference ambitions.

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If CUSA wants to try to continue the current trend of region focused growth/consolidation then maybe they can become the new SWC by pulling up some of the Southland and SWAC schools.

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93henfan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:22 pm That would make a really fun SBC. Good for JMU. That's a lot better than the watered down FCS we see now and a really bad CAA.

G5 is the new I-AA. We're all essentially D2 here.
A lot of truth there. :nod:
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AshevilleApp wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:31 am
93henfan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:22 pm That would make a really fun SBC. Good for JMU. That's a lot better than the watered down FCS we see now and a really bad CAA.

G5 is the new I-AA. We're all essentially D2 here.
A lot of truth there. :nod:
Balance of power has changed to the west. CAA and SoGone conferences are watered down.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:10 pm
AshevilleApp wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:31 am

A lot of truth there. :nod:
Balance of power has changed to the west. CAA and SoGone conferences are watered down.
I bolded the part that pertains to the G5. In the larger public's eye, the G5 represents what FCS actually is.
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93henfan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:54 pm So the real question is, does this mean no more BDKJMU on the board after 2021?
Maybe more like after 2022, as JMU would be transitioning next season. Still considered FCS 2022 and FBS 2023?

But you are right, why would someone be on a FCS football board if their school wasn’t FCS?

I would have to come back for the 2024 elections though..
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93henfan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:54 pm So the real question is, does this mean no more BDKJMU on the board after 2021?
You can't ever get rid of the Sun Belchers, sorry.
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Pwns wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:42 pm
93henfan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:54 pm So the real question is, does this mean no more BDKJMU on the board after 2021?
You can't ever get rid of the Sun Belchers, sorry.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:10 pm Balance of power has changed to the west. CAA and SoGone conferences are watered down.
Ebb and flow. And I will be looking for your royalty check for the use of "SoGone". :ugeek: :D
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89Hen wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:46 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:10 pm Balance of power has changed to the west. CAA and SoGone conferences are watered down.
Ebb and flow. And I will be looking for your royalty check for the use of "SoGone". :ugeek: :D
I was looking for the SoGone logo on AGS, but was unable to find it.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:59 am I was looking for the SoGone logo on AGS, but was unable to find it.
I think I still have the AGS magazine that I used to make that logo.
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DSUrocks07 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:36 am
Ibanez wrote:
Yeah...but the C-USA already looks like a sinking ship. How many people want to jump aboard that.
Most likely the last attempt to be able to move up for any FCS schools for the next 10+ years. Unless they want to wait for the WAC and ASun to get the ball rolling on their (still potential) FBS conference ambitions.

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Yep. I think CUSA will survive, with the pending FBS playoff expansion, there is too much money at stake for those remaining CUSA members to not keep it alive as an FBS conference.
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DSUrocks07 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:36 am
Ibanez wrote:
Yeah...but the C-USA already looks like a sinking ship. How many people want to jump aboard that.
Most likely the last attempt to be able to move up for any FCS schools for the next 10+ years. Unless they want to wait for the WAC and ASun to get the ball rolling on their (still potential) FBS conference ambitions.

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Question is wtf are UD, NDSU, Montana, etc waiting for?
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:35 pm Question is wtf are UD, NDSU, Montana, etc waiting for?
Maybe they have more sense.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:35 pm Question is wtf are UD, NDSU, Montana, etc waiting for?
Maybe they have more sense.
Then you have their respective fanbases who complain about "not being excited to see these new opponents" that replace those that leave. :shrug:

But then I can't say much because that's the main argument for any talk of HBCUs that leave an HBCU conference.

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:35 pm
DSUrocks07 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:36 am Most likely the last attempt to be able to move up for any FCS schools for the next 10+ years. Unless they want to wait for the WAC and ASun to get the ball rolling on their (still potential) FBS conference ambitions.

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Question is wtf are UD, NDSU, Montana, etc waiting for?

I don't buy the "Last attempt to be able to move up". That said where would / should Montana move to? The Mt West doesn't need anyone but they are the natural fit. There just are not many options out west. Further, the cost to move up is enormous (initial cost & annual costs)... additional sports, multiple additional scholarships for football, Title IX female athletes, & new sports, extra cost of improved facilities (non-football)...

Going back to "last attempt"... The Power 5 is about to abort everyone else. So then these others are the new 1AA, and there will be an eventual merging of the top of the FCS with them into the new "We Are Not the Power 5" division of American football. There really is no need to hurry until they are done with the SEC taking over the world. The remnants will be looking for somewhere to go.

That is my two bits. :ugeek:
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:35 pm
DSUrocks07 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:36 am Most likely the last attempt to be able to move up for any FCS schools for the next 10+ years. Unless they want to wait for the WAC and ASun to get the ball rolling on their (still potential) FBS conference ambitions.

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Question is wtf are UD, NDSU, Montana, etc waiting for?
UD couldn't beat Newark HS at the moment. That's part of our problem. Our coach has a hard enough time moving the team through the paper banner the cheerleaders hold up before the intro. Last week vs JMU:

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Grizzlies1982 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:51 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:35 pm
Question is wtf are UD, NDSU, Montana, etc waiting for?

I don't buy the "Last attempt to be able to move up". That said where would / should Montana move to? The Mt West doesn't need anyone but they are the natural fit. There just are not many options out west. Further, the cost to move up is enormous (initial cost & annual costs)... additional sports, multiple additional scholarships for football, Title IX female athletes, & new sports, extra cost of improved facilities (non-football)...

Going back to "last attempt"... The Power 5 is about to abort everyone else. So then these others are the new 1AA, and there will be an eventual merging of the top of the FCS with them into the new "We Are Not the Power 5" division of American football. There really is no need to hurry until they are done with the SEC taking over the world. The remnants will be looking for somewhere to go.

That is my two bits. :ugeek:
Neither do I. NDSU may have the fan base to support a move but it has neither the money nor conference invite (our location does not help us). I would have no problem going to the Mountain West but like you said '82, they are not looking for new members at this moment.

The whole College Football landscape is just starting to be shook up and it pays to wait a bit to see what direction the conferences go towards. Jumping in too early is just as bad as waiting too long. My only real concern is that we get out before the FCS becomes the new D2. And that is going to take 4 or 5 years to really get started.
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Winterborn wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:53 am
Grizzlies1982 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:51 pm
I don't buy the "Last attempt to be able to move up". That said where would / should Montana move to? The Mt West doesn't need anyone but they are the natural fit. There just are not many options out west. Further, the cost to move up is enormous (initial cost & annual costs)... additional sports, multiple additional scholarships for football, Title IX female athletes, & new sports, extra cost of improved facilities (non-football)...

Going back to "last attempt"... The Power 5 is about to abort everyone else. So then these others are the new 1AA, and there will be an eventual merging of the top of the FCS with them into the new "We Are Not the Power 5" division of American football. There really is no need to hurry until they are done with the SEC taking over the world. The remnants will be looking for somewhere to go.

That is my two bits. :ugeek:
Neither do I. NDSU may have the fan base to support a move but it has neither the money nor conference invite (our location does not help us). I would have no problem going to the Mountain West but like you said '82, they are not looking for new members at this moment.

The whole College Football landscape is just starting to be shook up and it pays to wait a bit to see what direction the conferences go towards. Jumping in too early is just as bad as waiting too long. My only real concern is that we get out before the FCS becomes the new D2. And that is going to take 4 or 5 years to really get started.
:nod:

How is the bizumb mob taking this on bizumbville and AGS? Anything worth enough shits and giggles to stop by for a read?
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:13 am
Winterborn wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:53 am

Neither do I. NDSU may have the fan base to support a move but it has neither the money nor conference invite (our location does not help us). I would have no problem going to the Mountain West but like you said '82, they are not looking for new members at this moment.

The whole College Football landscape is just starting to be shook up and it pays to wait a bit to see what direction the conferences go towards. Jumping in too early is just as bad as waiting too long. My only real concern is that we get out before the FCS becomes the new D2. And that is going to take 4 or 5 years to really get started.
:nod:

How is the bizumb mob taking this on bizumbville and AGS? Anything worth enough shits and giggles to stop by for a read?
The AGS Bison posters are the more rational of the bunch (which is why they are not posting on Bisonville) and are pretty much in line with what I said above. There is a couple that post on both boards (Professor Chaos, and PL) but they are the more level headed football posters.

Bisonville is and will always remain a shit-show. One needs a full hazmat suit and decontamination procedure afterwards just reading the threads. I read it for the few bits of knowledge that drop (CAS is a an ex-defense player and has good insights) but only on the Gameday and Post-gameday threads. The rest of the board is a dumpster fire (they give Lakes free reign). About 5-6 years ago there were some informative and funny posters, but they rarely post any more as Lakes and his cronies drown them out. The FBS talk (really most of the Football side of the board now) infects everything and it is mostly a bunch of jock sniffers trying to one up each other and have zero answer for the conference invite or money problem. Saying otherwise invites negative reputation points from the Lakes crew and/or scorn.

I am pretty sure Lakes has at least three shadow profiles that he uses to wage his own private war. Some of the posts are suspiciously close in tone and rep points. :roll:
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Winterborn wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:13 am
:nod:

How is the bizumb mob taking this on bizumbville and AGS? Anything worth enough shits and giggles to stop by for a read?
The AGS Bison posters are the more rational of the bunch (which is why they are not posting on Bisonville) and are pretty much in line with what I said above. There is a couple that post on both boards (Professor Chaos, and PL) but they are the more level headed football posters.

Bisonville is and will always remain a shit-show. One needs a full hazmat suit and decontamination procedure afterwards just reading the threads. I read it for the few bits of knowledge that drop (CAS is a an ex-defense player and has good insights) but only on the Gameday and Post-gameday threads. The rest of the board is a dumpster fire (they give Lakes free reign). About 5-6 years ago there were some informative and funny posters, but they rarely post any more as Lakes and his cronies drown them out. The FBS talk (really most of the Football side of the board now) infects everything and it is mostly a bunch of jock sniffers trying to one up each other and have zero answer for the conference invite or money problem. Saying otherwise invites negative reputation points from the Lakes crew and/or scorn.

I am pretty sure Lakes has at least three shadow profiles that he uses to wage his own private war. Some of the posts are suspiciously close in tone and rep points. :roll:
Good to hear. I miss Professor Chaos' opinions and insights from AGS.
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