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Will become co-DC at Texas. He was recently a finalist for the Boise job, as well.

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Word is MSU's DC is gone as well. Huge blows for MSU.
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SDHornet wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:20 pm Word is MSU's DC is gone as well.
It sounds like that's less clear now since Ioane might be a contender to replace Choate.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:03 pm Will become co-DC at Texas. He was recently a finalist for the Boise job, as well.

https://missoulian.com/sports/college/b ... 94bf5.html
I actually heard that the Boise people flew to Bozeman to offer the job to Choate but he turned them down. He must have known this was in the process of happening.
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JALMOND wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:55 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:03 pm Will become co-DC at Texas. He was recently a finalist for the Boise job, as well.

https://missoulian.com/sports/college/b ... 94bf5.html
I actually heard that the Boise people flew to Bozeman to offer the job to Choate but he turned them down. He must have known this was in the process of happening.
I'm skeptical of that. Co-DC at Texas pays more than HC at MSU, but way less than HC at Boise.
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JALMOND wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:55 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:03 pm Will become co-DC at Texas. He was recently a finalist for the Boise job, as well.

https://missoulian.com/sports/college/b ... 94bf5.html
I actually heard that the Boise people flew to Bozeman to offer the job to Choate but he turned them down. He must have known this was in the process of happening.
Is co-DC at Texas (yes I understand "it's Texas") a better gig than a head coaching job at Boise?
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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:15 am
JALMOND wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:55 pm

I actually heard that the Boise people flew to Bozeman to offer the job to Choate but he turned them down. He must have known this was in the process of happening.
I'm skeptical of that. Co-DC at Texas pays more than HC at MSU, but way less than HC at Boise.
I know that the plane that was carrying the Boise crew flew to Eugene from Bozeman to offer Avalos the HC job, not from Boise. :suspicious:

If Avalos was their choice all along, why would they stop off in Bozeman?
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JALMOND wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:08 am
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:15 am

I'm skeptical of that. Co-DC at Texas pays more than HC at MSU, but way less than HC at Boise.
I know that the plane that was carrying the Boise crew flew to Eugene from Bozeman to offer Avalos the HC job, not from Boise. :suspicious:

If Avalos was their choice all along, why would they stop off in Bozeman?
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clenz wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:23 am
JALMOND wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:55 pm

I actually heard that the Boise people flew to Bozeman to offer the job to Choate but he turned them down. He must have known this was in the process of happening.
Is co-DC at Texas (yes I understand "it's Texas") a better gig than a head coaching job at Boise?
IMO "Yes". A coordinator gig at a P5 job, especially Texas, is more prestigious than a HC job at Boise.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm
clenz wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:23 am
Is co-DC at Texas (yes I understand "it's Texas") a better gig than a head coaching job at Boise?
IMO "Yes". A coordinator gig at a P5 job, especially Texas, is more prestigious than a HC job at Boise.
Especially when Sarkisian paid out $1 million for a special teams coach. It was pointed out that there is only one assistant coach in the whole Pac-12 making $1 million. I'd be inclined to think Boise would not have been able to match it.

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SDHornet wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm
clenz wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:23 am
Is co-DC at Texas (yes I understand "it's Texas") a better gig than a head coaching job at Boise?
IMO "Yes". A coordinator gig at a P5 job, especially Texas, is more prestigious than a HC job at Boise.
Boise's usually in the top-25, though. Plus, their new HC is getting $1.4 million.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:22 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm

IMO "Yes". A coordinator gig at a P5 job, especially Texas, is more prestigious than a HC job at Boise.
Boise's usually in the top-25, though. Plus, their new HC is getting $1.4 million.
So Choate will make almost Boise HC money by being a co-DC in Texas. Yeah, no brainer move.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:03 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:22 pm

Boise's usually in the top-25, though. Plus, their new HC is getting $1.4 million.
So Choate will make almost Boise HC money by being a co-DC in Texas. Yeah, no brainer move.
Almost? More like half.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:34 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:20 pm Word is MSU's DC is gone as well.
It sounds like that's less clear now since Ioane might be a contender to replace Choate.
Never mind. Ioane took the Boise DC job today.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:44 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:34 pm

It sounds like that's less clear now since Ioane might be a contender to replace Choate.
Never mind. Ioane took the Boise DC job today.
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JALMOND wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:55 pm
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:03 pm Will become co-DC at Texas. He was recently a finalist for the Boise job, as well.

https://missoulian.com/sports/college/b ... 94bf5.html
I actually heard that the Boise people flew to Bozeman to offer the job to Choate but he turned them down. He must have known this was in the process of happening.
Everything I've read and heard is that they flew here to interview Choate and then flew there to interview Avalos. As I recall, they announced the hiring later. All of Choate's comments since then sound like he lost out to Avalos and that he would have taken the Boise job. As I recall, he said the first contact from Texas came on Wednesday after Boise fell through and on Friday it got serious (and finalized).

I suspect (this is all conjecture on my part) that the Boise job situation made him sit back and take stock, realize that if he wanted to continue moving up the ladder that he wasn't going to improve his resume much by staying here. Each year he had a noticeably better result and it would be hard to make big strides beyond where he is. Top 4 in the playoffs is hard to improve on (especially considering that NDSU will typically be on our side of the bracket). He could win some conference championships, might advance further in the playoffs, could improve his W/L record but it would be incremental improvement not the significant strides he'd made the last few years.

It probably also pointed out that major college AD's (and/or their influential fans) seem to value P5 coordinators more than FCS head coaches. He lost the Boise job to a coordinator (despite, from numerous sources, Chris Petersen advocating for him) and it seems to be a more popular route to a P5 head coaching job. When Texas called to see if he'd be interested, it sounds like he felt it would be better for his career.

I'd have liked for him to stay a couple more years, but he did a good job here and I can't fault him for moving on to a better job. I wish him good luck.

I hope we get a good replacement.
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catbooster wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:54 pm
JALMOND wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:55 pm

I actually heard that the Boise people flew to Bozeman to offer the job to Choate but he turned them down. He must have known this was in the process of happening.
Everything I've read and heard is that they flew here to interview Choate and then flew there to interview Avalos. As I recall, they announced the hiring later. All of Choate's comments since then sound like he lost out to Avalos and that he would have taken the Boise job. As I recall, he said the first contact from Texas came on Wednesday after Boise fell through and on Friday it got serious (and finalized).

I suspect (this is all conjecture on my part) that the Boise job situation made him sit back and take stock, realize that if he wanted to continue moving up the ladder that he wasn't going to improve his resume much by staying here. Each year he had a noticeably better result and it would be hard to make big strides beyond where he is. Top 4 in the playoffs is hard to improve on (especially considering that NDSU will typically be on our side of the bracket). He could win some conference championships, might advance further in the playoffs, could improve his W/L record but it would be incremental improvement not the significant strides he'd made the last few years.

It probably also pointed out that major college AD's (and/or their influential fans) seem to value P5 coordinators more than FCS head coaches. He lost the Boise job to a coordinator (despite, from numerous sources, Chris Petersen advocating for him) and it seems to be a more popular route to a P5 head coaching job. When Texas called to see if he'd be interested, it sounds like he felt it would be better for his career.

I'd have liked for him to stay a couple more years, but he did a good job here and I can't fault him for moving on to a better job. I wish him good luck.

I hope we get a good replacement.
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Let's see,
2019:
Choate/MSU 11-4 overall, 6-2 conf (Tied for 3rd), playoff semifinals
Booby/UM 10-4 overall, 6-2 conf (T3rd), playoff quarterfinals

2018:
Choate/MSU 8-5 overall, 5-3 conf (T4th), 2nd round
Booby/UM 6-5 overall, 4-4 conf (T6th), no playoffs

Is Bobby on the hot seat? If Choate would have been fired a year ago, it seems like Bobby must be barely hanging on. :coffee:
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catbooster wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:29 pm Let's see,
2019:
Choate/MSU 11-4 overall, 6-2 conf (Tied for 3rd), playoff semifinals
Booby/UM 10-4 overall, 6-2 conf (T3rd), playoff quarterfinals

2018:
Choate/MSU 8-5 overall, 5-3 conf (T4th), 2nd round
Booby/UM 6-5 overall, 4-4 conf (T6th), no playoffs

Is Bobby on the hot seat? If Choate would have been fired a year ago, it seems like Bobby must be barely hanging on. :coffee:
Lol. He’s just entering his 3rd year. What was Choad’s record after 3 years?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:46 pm
catbooster wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:29 pm Let's see,
2019:
Choate/MSU 11-4 overall, 6-2 conf (Tied for 3rd), playoff semifinals
Booby/UM 10-4 overall, 6-2 conf (T3rd), playoff quarterfinals

2018:
Choate/MSU 8-5 overall, 5-3 conf (T4th), 2nd round
Booby/UM 6-5 overall, 4-4 conf (T6th), no playoffs

Is Bobby on the hot seat? If Choate would have been fired a year ago, it seems like Bobby must be barely hanging on. :coffee:
Lol. He’s just entering his 3rd year. What was Choad’s record after 3 years?
you said he'd have been fired a year ago. That was after the 2019 season above. If you're going to switch to after his third year, then it's 2018 above.
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Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:22 pm
SDHornet wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm

IMO "Yes". A coordinator gig at a P5 job, especially Texas, is more prestigious than a HC job at Boise.
Boise's usually in the top-25, though. Plus, their new HC is getting $1.4 million.
I'm so old I can remember when the Boise job was just another HC job in the Big Sky. Heck, I can even remember back when the Gonzaga basketball job was just another Big Sky job. :D
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JALMOND wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:00 am
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:22 pm

Boise's usually in the top-25, though. Plus, their new HC is getting $1.4 million.
I'm so old I can remember when the Boise job was just another HC job in the Big Sky. Heck, I can even remember back when the Gonzaga basketball job was just another Big Sky job. :D
And I thought I was old for remembering Neil Lomax.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:55 am
JALMOND wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:00 am

I'm so old I can remember when the Boise job was just another HC job in the Big Sky. Heck, I can even remember back when the Gonzaga basketball job was just another Big Sky job. :D
And I thought I was old for remembering Neil Lomax.

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JALMOND wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:00 am
Mvemjsunpx wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:22 pm

Boise's usually in the top-25, though. Plus, their new HC is getting $1.4 million.
I'm so old I can remember when the Boise job was just another HC job in the Big Sky. Heck, I can even remember back when the Gonzaga basketball job was just another Big Sky job. :D
Yep. I remember going to conference games against Nevada-Reno and Boise when I was in college. I don't remember them very well, but I know I was at them.
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