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I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
I-AA/FCS draft pics
-2nd Rd, 64th pick, Panthers: Jeremy Chinn, S, SIU
-3rd Rd, 105th pick, Saints: Adam Troutman, TE, Dayton
-5th Rd, 171st pick, Texans: Isiah Coulter, WR, URI
-7th Rd, 227th pick, Bears: Lachavious Simmons, G, Tenn St
-7th Rd, 231st pick, Cowboys, Ben Dinucci, QB, JMU
-7th Rd, 254th pick, Broncos, Derek Tuszka, DE, NDSU (missed being Mr Irrelevant by 1 pick)
-2nd Rd, 64th pick, Panthers: Jeremy Chinn, S, SIU
-3rd Rd, 105th pick, Saints: Adam Troutman, TE, Dayton
-5th Rd, 171st pick, Texans: Isiah Coulter, WR, URI
-7th Rd, 227th pick, Bears: Lachavious Simmons, G, Tenn St
-7th Rd, 231st pick, Cowboys, Ben Dinucci, QB, JMU
-7th Rd, 254th pick, Broncos, Derek Tuszka, DE, NDSU (missed being Mr Irrelevant by 1 pick)
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Re: I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
JMU (5 so far)
-QB Ben Dinucci, 7th Rd, Cowboys
UDFA
-DE Ron'Dell Carter, Cowboys
-DE John Daka, Ravens
-WR Brandon Polk, Rams
-TE Dylan Stapleton, Texans
Still waiting to hear if WR Riley Stapleton and CB Rashad Robinson get UFDAs.
JMU has put 5 into camps before, but never more (not counting rookie minicamp tryouts, but actual training camps under contract).
2010- Two 6th Rd picks/3 UDFA. 4 made rosters.
2018- 0 drafted/5 UDFA (2 weren't until last season). 3 made rosters.
-QB Ben Dinucci, 7th Rd, Cowboys
UDFA
-DE Ron'Dell Carter, Cowboys
-DE John Daka, Ravens
-WR Brandon Polk, Rams
-TE Dylan Stapleton, Texans
Still waiting to hear if WR Riley Stapleton and CB Rashad Robinson get UFDAs.
JMU has put 5 into camps before, but never more (not counting rookie minicamp tryouts, but actual training camps under contract).
2010- Two 6th Rd picks/3 UDFA. 4 made rosters.
2018- 0 drafted/5 UDFA (2 weren't until last season). 3 made rosters.
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Re: I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
I-AA/FCS picks since the draft decreased from 12 to 7 rounds in 1993:
1993: 17
1994: 22
1995: 22
1996: 29
1997: 27
1998: 17
1999: 27
2000: 21
2001: 16
2002: 18
2003: 12
2004: 15
2005: 16
2006: 15
2007: 18
2008: 21
2009: 17
2010: 17
2011: 19
2012: 15
2013: 16
2014: 17
2015: 17
2016: 20
2017: 15
2018: 19
2019: 13
2020: 6
https://herosports.com/nfl/draft-fcs-pi ... -2019-ajaj
I-AA goes from recent history of 13-20, to 6.
Div II goes from recent history of around 5-6, to 2.
That can't be a coincidence. Pro Days at colleges and universities, and all the other cancelled pre draft scouting, workouts, interviews, and investigative stuff I bet hurt a lot of the I-AA & Div II fringe late round prospects more than the I-A guys.They'll probably be just as many I-AA UDFAs. How many are drafted doesn't matter as much as how many I-AA's make rosters. Will be interesting to see that comparison to previous seasons.
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Re: I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
Exactly.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:40 pmI-AA/FCS picks since the draft decreased from 12 to 7 rounds in 1993:
1993: 17
1994: 22
1995: 22
1996: 29
1997: 27
1998: 17
1999: 27
2000: 21
2001: 16
2002: 18
2003: 12
2004: 15
2005: 16
2006: 15
2007: 18
2008: 21
2009: 17
2010: 17
2011: 19
2012: 15
2013: 16
2014: 17
2015: 17
2016: 20
2017: 15
2018: 19
2019: 13
2020: 6
https://herosports.com/nfl/draft-fcs-pi ... -2019-ajaj
I-AA goes from recent history of 13-20, to 6.
Div II goes from recent history of around 5-6, to 2.
That can't be a coincidence. Pro Days at colleges and universities, and all the other cancelled pre draft scouting, workouts, interviews, and investigative stuff I bet hurt a lot of the I-AA & Div II fringe late round prospects more than the I-A guys.They'll probably be just as many I-AA UDFAs. How many are drafted doesn't matter as much as how many I-AA's make rosters. Will be interesting to see that comparison to previous seasons.
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Re: I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
NDSU so far
OL Zack Johnson to the Packers
TE Ben Ellefson to the Jags.
OL Zack Johnson to the Packers
TE Ben Ellefson to the Jags.
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Re: I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
Pretty sure I saw Tuszka signed with someone..
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Yep, as 89 and I have been saying, the FCS talent level has dropped decade to decade for the past four decades. You see a huge drop from the 90s to 00's with Marshall and Boise St leaving in particular. Then a smaller drop from the 00's to the 10's with App St and GeoSo leaving, but still a drop.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:40 pmI-AA/FCS picks since the draft decreased from 12 to 7 rounds in 1993:
1993: 17
1994: 22
1995: 22
1996: 29
1997: 27
1998: 17
1999: 27
2000: 21
2001: 16
2002: 18
2003: 12
2004: 15
2005: 16
2006: 15
2007: 18
2008: 21
2009: 17
2010: 17
2011: 19
2012: 15
2013: 16
2014: 17
2015: 17
2016: 20
2017: 15
2018: 19
2019: 13
2020: 6
https://herosports.com/nfl/draft-fcs-pi ... -2019-ajaj
I-AA goes from recent history of 13-20, to 6.
Div II goes from recent history of around 5-6, to 2.
That can't be a coincidence. Pro Days at colleges and universities, and all the other cancelled pre draft scouting, workouts, interviews, and investigative stuff I bet hurt a lot of the I-AA & Div II fringe late round prospects more than the I-A guys.They'll probably be just as many I-AA UDFAs. How many are drafted doesn't matter as much as how many I-AA's make rosters. Will be interesting to see that comparison to previous seasons.
You just can't lose great teams without a drop. NDSU singlehandedly made the 10's close to the 00's. Without NDSU, the drop would be stark.
But again, how dreadful has NDSU made the subdivision, winning year after year after year? It's horrible to watch for anyone outside of North Dakota.
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Re: I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
But then how do you explain 2016 (20 drafted) and 2018 (19 drafted), more than any year between 2001-2010, before longtime I-AA App St, GSU, UMass, TX State moved up?93henfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29 pmYep, as 89 and I have been saying, the FCS talent level has dropped decade to decade for the past four decades. You see a huge drop from the 90s to 00's with Marshall and Boise St leaving in particular. Then a smaller drop from the 00's to the 10's with App St and GeoSo leaving, but still a drop.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:40 pm
I-AA/FCS picks since the draft decreased from 12 to 7 rounds in 1993:
1993: 17
1994: 22
1995: 22
1996: 29
1997: 27
1998: 17
1999: 27
2000: 21
2001: 16
2002: 18
2003: 12
2004: 15
2005: 16
2006: 15
2007: 18
2008: 21
2009: 17
2010: 17
2011: 19
2012: 15
2013: 16
2014: 17
2015: 17
2016: 20
2017: 15
2018: 19
2019: 13
2020: 6
https://herosports.com/nfl/draft-fcs-pi ... -2019-ajaj
I-AA goes from recent history of 13-20, to 6.
Div II goes from recent history of around 5-6, to 2.
That can't be a coincidence. Pro Days at colleges and universities, and all the other cancelled pre draft scouting, workouts, interviews, and investigative stuff I bet hurt a lot of the I-AA & Div II fringe late round prospects more than the I-A guys.They'll probably be just as many I-AA UDFAs. How many are drafted doesn't matter as much as how many I-AA's make rosters. Will be interesting to see that comparison to previous seasons.
You just can't lose great teams without a drop. NDSU singlehandedly made the 10's close to the 00's. Without NDSU, the drop would be stark.
But again, how dreadful has NDSU made the subdivision, winning year after year after year? It's horrible to watch for anyone outside of North Dakota.
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Re: I-AA/FCS draft picks & UDFA signings
You missed my just missed being 'Mr Irrelevant' comment for Tuszka.
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I averaging over entire decades. Those are individual outlier years. There are those in every decade.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:19 pmBut then how do you explain 2016 (20 drafted) and 2018 (19 drafted), more than any year between 2001-2010, before longtime I-AA App St, GSU, UMass, TX State moved up?93henfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29 pm
Yep, as 89 and I have been saying, the FCS talent level has dropped decade to decade for the past four decades. You see a huge drop from the 90s to 00's with Marshall and Boise St leaving in particular. Then a smaller drop from the 00's to the 10's with App St and GeoSo leaving, but still a drop.
You just can't lose great teams without a drop. NDSU singlehandedly made the 10's close to the 00's. Without NDSU, the drop would be stark.
But again, how dreadful has NDSU made the subdivision, winning year after year after year? It's horrible to watch for anyone outside of North Dakota.
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So far 6 drafted and 65 UDFAs. Obviously will be more UDFA added. Of the 71 so far:
CAA 16: JMU 5 (1 drafted), URI 3 (1 drafted), Albany 3, Elon 1, Maine 1, SBU 1, Towson 1, W&M 1
MVFC 14: NDSU 3 (1 drafted), SDSU 3, SIU 2 (1 drafted), ILSU 2, Larry Bird U 1, SD 1, WIU 1, YSU 1
Big Sky 11: Montana St 2, NAU 2, PSU 2, Montana 1, Cal Poly 1, Idaho 1, Sac St 1, Weber 1
OVC 6: TN St 2 (1 drafted), SEMO 2, JSU 1, Tenn Martin 1
Ivy 5: Dartmouth 2, Brown 1, Princeton 1, Yale 1
MEAC 3: Morgan St 1, Norfolk St 1, SC State 1
So-Con 3: ETSU 1, UTC 1, WCU 1
Southland 2: UCA 1, NW St 1
Big South 2: KSU 1, Hampton 1
Patriot 2: G Town 1, HC 1
NEC: 2: Wagner 2
SWAC 2 : Prairie View 2
Pioneer 2: Dayton (1 drafted), San Diego 1
Independent 1: Tarleton St 1
https://herosports.com/fcs/football-202 ... acker-ajaj
The HERO guys on their podcast last week before the draft were talking about the fact that not having Pro Days was really going to hurt the fringe FCS prospects..
CAA 16: JMU 5 (1 drafted), URI 3 (1 drafted), Albany 3, Elon 1, Maine 1, SBU 1, Towson 1, W&M 1
MVFC 14: NDSU 3 (1 drafted), SDSU 3, SIU 2 (1 drafted), ILSU 2, Larry Bird U 1, SD 1, WIU 1, YSU 1
Big Sky 11: Montana St 2, NAU 2, PSU 2, Montana 1, Cal Poly 1, Idaho 1, Sac St 1, Weber 1
OVC 6: TN St 2 (1 drafted), SEMO 2, JSU 1, Tenn Martin 1
Ivy 5: Dartmouth 2, Brown 1, Princeton 1, Yale 1
MEAC 3: Morgan St 1, Norfolk St 1, SC State 1
So-Con 3: ETSU 1, UTC 1, WCU 1
Southland 2: UCA 1, NW St 1
Big South 2: KSU 1, Hampton 1
Patriot 2: G Town 1, HC 1
NEC: 2: Wagner 2
SWAC 2 : Prairie View 2
Pioneer 2: Dayton (1 drafted), San Diego 1
Independent 1: Tarleton St 1
https://herosports.com/fcs/football-202 ... acker-ajaj
The HERO guys on their podcast last week before the draft were talking about the fact that not having Pro Days was really going to hurt the fringe FCS prospects..
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93henfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29 pmYep, as 89 and I have been saying, the FCS talent level has dropped decade to decade for the past four decades. You see a huge drop from the 90s to 00's with Marshall and Boise St leaving in particular. Then a smaller drop from the 00's to the 10's with App St and GeoSo leaving, but still a drop.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:40 pm
I-AA/FCS picks since the draft decreased from 12 to 7 rounds in 1993:
1993: 17
1994: 22
1995: 22
1996: 29
1997: 27
1998: 17
1999: 27
2000: 21
2001: 16
2002: 18
2003: 12
2004: 15
2005: 16
2006: 15
2007: 18
2008: 21
2009: 17
2010: 17
2011: 19
2012: 15
2013: 16
2014: 17
2015: 17
2016: 20
2017: 15
2018: 19
2019: 13
2020: 6
https://herosports.com/nfl/draft-fcs-pi ... -2019-ajaj
I-AA goes from recent history of 13-20, to 6.
Div II goes from recent history of around 5-6, to 2.
That can't be a coincidence. Pro Days at colleges and universities, and all the other cancelled pre draft scouting, workouts, interviews, and investigative stuff I bet hurt a lot of the I-AA & Div II fringe late round prospects more than the I-A guys.They'll probably be just as many I-AA UDFAs. How many are drafted doesn't matter as much as how many I-AA's make rosters. Will be interesting to see that comparison to previous seasons.
You just can't lose great teams without a drop. NDSU singlehandedly made the 10's close to the 00's. Without NDSU, the drop would be stark.
But again, how dreadful has NDSU made the subdivision, winning year after year after year? It's horrible to watch for anyone outside of North Dakota.
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In 1993, the NFL drafted 6 FCS/IAA players in the 8th round. hmmm.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:19 pmBut then how do you explain 2016 (20 drafted) and 2018 (19 drafted), more than any year between 2001-2010, before longtime I-AA App St, GSU, UMass, TX State moved up?93henfan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:29 pm
Yep, as 89 and I have been saying, the FCS talent level has dropped decade to decade for the past four decades. You see a huge drop from the 90s to 00's with Marshall and Boise St leaving in particular. Then a smaller drop from the 00's to the 10's with App St and GeoSo leaving, but still a drop.
You just can't lose great teams without a drop. NDSU singlehandedly made the 10's close to the 00's. Without NDSU, the drop would be stark.
But again, how dreadful has NDSU made the subdivision, winning year after year after year? It's horrible to watch for anyone outside of North Dakota.
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You guys are completely out gunned here. You should probably just stop for a year or two.
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You guys are completely out gunned here. You should probably just stop for a year or two.
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Draft Picks by schools that left FCS since 2000. This is with all those extra scholarships. Please add any that I may have missed.
Appalachian State -- 2
Georgia Southern -- 2
Liberty -- 1
UMass -- 1
ODU
Texas St
WKU
Georgia State
Coastal Carolina
Appalachian State -- 2
Georgia Southern -- 2
Liberty -- 1
UMass -- 1
ODU
Texas St
WKU
Georgia State
Coastal Carolina
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So what you're saying is four schools that 'recently' left I-AA had as many picks as the remaining 126 I-AA schools. Are you REALLY sure you want to continue? This simply isn't a fair fight Gil.
Oh, BTW:
Charlotte (2)
FAU (1)
FIU (2)
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Sorry, I didn't think those were included as power schools that left FCS, 8 years total between the 3. So according to Sagarin, only 2 of those 12 teams were ranked ahead of Montana. Montana was the 3rd ranked Big Sky School. FCS is as good as ever.
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HERO said 1993 was when they went to 7 rounds. Maybe it was the 1993 season, 1994 draft, and they are off by a year? I didn’t double check their work..
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Yeah, the drive bys (FAU, FIU, UNCC, ODU, GST), that only spent 2-3 seasons in I-AA, shouldn’t be counted.
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