Vidav wrote:I just don't understand why the bison would keep doing so well. Seriously who the fuck wants to live in Fargo. The winters are terrible. Snow on the ground becomes a blizzard because the wind is so strong. Flat lands are dumb.
I happen to enjoy it here in the flat lands. Yes, it would be nice to have some hills, but overall I enjoy the wide open spaces. The winds are strong and I would agree that smelling what the Candian's are cooking about 2 hours after they do it is a bit annoying.
Terrible winters keep most of the riff-raf away and I happen to like a good blizzard in which you are stuck for a couple of days afterwards. Gives a person time to putter around in the shop, drink beer and play cards.
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Vidav wrote:I just don't understand why the bison would keep doing so well. Seriously who the fuck wants to live in Fargo. The winters are terrible. Snow on the ground becomes a blizzard because the wind is so strong. Flat lands are dumb.
I happen to enjoy it here in the flat lands. Yes, it would be nice to have some hills, but overall I enjoy the wide open spaces. The winds are strong and I would agree that smelling what the Candian's are cooking about 2 hours after they do it is a bit annoying.
Terrible winters keep most of the riff-raf away and I happen to like a good blizzard in which you are stuck for a couple of days afterwards. Gives a person time to putter around in the shop, drink beer and play cards.
Played a lot of poker and Pinochle during the North Dakota winters.
I happen to enjoy it here in the flat lands. Yes, it would be nice to have some hills, but overall I enjoy the wide open spaces. The winds are strong and I would agree that smelling what the Candian's are cooking about 2 hours after they do it is a bit annoying.
Terrible winters keep most of the riff-raf away and I happen to like a good blizzard in which you are stuck for a couple of days afterwards. Gives a person time to putter around in the shop, drink beer and play cards.
Played a lot of poker and Pinochle during the North Dakota winters.
Rummy, Pinochle, and Gin were our go-to's.
Played Whist a few times with the grandparents and got cleaned out.
“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
You gambling against your Grandpa? You gotta know going in that that's dumb. Grandpas can be sneaky....
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SuperHornet wrote:You gambling against your Grandpa? You gotta know going in that that's dumb. Grandpas can be sneaky....
Can be?
He was giving me an early lesson in life and the school of hard knocks. If you aren't good, you better be crafty.
“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
Turns out, 48% of the survey respondents who identified NDSU football as their favorite team want the Bison to stay FCS while 27% want them to move up to FBS. Again, a surprisingly high figure of 21% said they don't care.
UND hockey fans much more strongly support Bison football moving to FBS, with 40% of them saying NDSU should make the move while 22% say it should stay in FCS. Significantly, 37% say they don't care.
Of the 18 crosstabs Mitchell formulated based on gender, age, education, region, political party identification and favorite teams, only one other group supported a Bison move to FBS with a plurality. Residents of western cities (Bismarck, Mandan, Minot) said NDSU should move up by a margin of 41% to 34%.
Democrats surveyed favored FBS over FCS by a 34% to 25% margin, but a plurality of 42% said they don't care. Dems in North Dakota have bigger things about which to worry.
The poll is strictly water-cooler and social media grist because NDSU has shown no interest in moving to FBS, with school president Dean Bresciani and athletic director Matt Larsen saying FCS is the Bison's "sweet spot."
More important, no FBS conferences are known to be interested in NDSU. For the Bison to potentially make a move up, a higher-level conference would have to invite them to join and mid-major leagues like the Mountain West, Mid-American, Sun Belt, American Athletic and Conference USA have not come calling.
It’s the “sweet spot” because they’ve won 8 titles in 9 years. I think the MWC might be Boise State’s “sweet spot” too, doesn’t mean they didn’t miss a huge opportunity when the PAC 12 expanded. It also doesn’t mean they aren’t missing out on whats most precious to every CF player, and what’s most important to every athletic department: a National Championship at the highest level, and the $108 million that comes with it.
NDSU has had way more success in FCS football than Boise State, but Boise State brings in more money, and has a much more significant national presence.
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SuperHornet wrote:You gambling against your Grandpa? You gotta know going in that that's dumb. Grandpas can be sneaky....
Can be?
He was giving me an early lesson in life and the school of hard knocks. If you aren't good, you better be crafty.
Those old gritty Scandinavian grandpas from the Dakotas were good at teaching you about hunting, fishing, working on the railroad, gambling, cursing, and snoose...all the important things.
DSUrocks07 wrote:ITT: Mediocre programs debates the merits of actual successful programs leaving the subdivision so they can relive their heyday with faux accolades.
“programs debates merits...”
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He was giving me an early lesson in life and the school of hard knocks. If you aren't good, you better be crafty.
Those old gritty German grandpas from the Dakotas were good at teaching you about hunting, fishing, working on the railroad, gambling, cursing, women, and snoose...all the important things.
Slight edit, but overall correct.
“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” - G. Michael Hopf
"I am neither especially clever nor especially gifted. I am only very, very curious.” – Albert Einstein
Chizzang wrote:I wonder about the motivation behind both perspectives
"The FCS is down"
and
"The FCS is better than ever"
I'm inclined to go with - it's the same as it ever was...
with a few great teams / a few darn good teams / and a bunch of mediocre teams
Same as it ever was...
And you may find yourself
In another part of the world
And you may find yourself
Behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house
With a beautiful wife
And you may ask yourself, well
How did I get here?
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Chizzang wrote:I wonder about the motivation behind both perspectives
"The FCS is down"
and
"The FCS is better than ever"
Seriously? The teams that are up right now think it's the best it's ever been, the teams that are down think it's down. However, the second group has far more unattached posters on their side. Just sayin.
Chizzang wrote:I wonder about the motivation behind both perspectives
"The FCS is down"
and
"The FCS is better than ever"
Seriously? The teams that are up right now think it's the best it's ever been, the teams that are down think it's down. However, the second group has far more unattached posters on their side. Just sayin.
Delaware, Montana? And of course App St and GSU are going to say it's down without them.
89Hen wrote:
Seriously? The teams that are up right now think it's the best it's ever been, the teams that are down think it's down. However, the second group has far more unattached posters on their side. Just sayin.
Delaware, Montana? And of course App St and GSU are going to say it's down without them.
I know there were a couple of UNI fans and others. Of course you do have JBB on your side which adds a lot of credibility.
Chizzang wrote:I wonder about the motivation behind both perspectives
"The FCS is down"
and
"The FCS is better than ever"
I'm inclined to go with - it's the same as it ever was...
with a few great teams / a few darn good teams / and a bunch of mediocre teams
Same as it ever was...
Sure. But let me fix that for you...
[...]with one all-time great team / a few darn good teams / and a bunch of shit teams
NDSU has absolutely proven they are special
but if you delete them from the conversation
Kinda like remove no. 1 and remove No. 236
and then factor your remainder on a performance scale
add to that
The same number of players are getting selected in the draft
and the same number are getting invited to practice squads
I don't see much difference...
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What... are you retarded or something?
Want me to hold your hand when you go pee pee too?
Wow, how un-PC of you to use the R word.
Can we summarize this a little better...
1990's = 23.0 per year, 0.857 first rounders per year
2000's = 16.9 per year, 0.4 first rounders per year
2010's = 17.1 per year, 0.222 first rounders per year
vutomcat wrote:Or, you can spin it that it has been the same for 20 years.
Bet you weren't posting in 2003, 2004 and 2010 that the FCS was in such awful shape.
No, I wasn't.
You're assuming that I think number of draft picks is a good indicator of the strength of the division. I do not. But it was Cleets that made a false claim, so I called him out on it and hopefully he mans up like Bill Clinton to admit his mistake.
To put stock in number of NFL players is folly at best. I'd be willing to wager you that from the start of I-AA through the mid 90's, the MEAC and SWAC put more players in the NFL than any other conferences in I-AA. Yet those conferences were the bottom of the barrel as evidenced by their horrific playoff records (SWAC was something like 0-17 before they voluntarily removed themselves from the playoffs).
The fact is that I have been posting about I-AA football since 1995, so I've been around the block and I can see what's what.
vutomcat wrote:Or, you can spin it that it has been the same for 20 years.
Bet you weren't posting in 2003, 2004 and 2010 that the FCS was in such awful shape.
No, I wasn't.
You're assuming that I think number of draft picks is a good indicator of the strength of the division. I do not. But it was Cleets that made a false claim, so I called him out on it and hopefully he mans up like Bill Clinton to admit his mistake.
To put stock in number of NFL players is folly at best. I'd be willing to wager you that from the start of I-AA through the mid 90's, the MEAC and SWAC put more players in the NFL than any other conferences in I-AA. Yet those conferences were the bottom of the barrel as evidenced by their horrific playoff records (SWAC was something like 0-17 before they voluntarily removed themselves from the playoffs).
The fact is that I have been posting about I-AA football since 1995, so I've been around the block and I can see what's what.
It's only one indicator. Not folly, for sure.
You missed my point though. Delaware had very good teams in the years I included in my post. You were happy as a clam with the level of competition i'm sure. Doesn't make you a bad guy.
You're assuming that I think number of draft picks is a good indicator of the strength of the division. I do not. But it was Cleets that made a false claim, so I called him out on it and hopefully he mans up like Bill Clinton to admit his mistake.
To put stock in number of NFL players is folly at best. I'd be willing to wager you that from the start of I-AA through the mid 90's, the MEAC and SWAC put more players in the NFL than any other conferences in I-AA. Yet those conferences were the bottom of the barrel as evidenced by their horrific playoff records (SWAC was something like 0-17 before they voluntarily removed themselves from the playoffs).
The fact is that I have been posting about I-AA football since 1995, so I've been around the block and I can see what's what.
It's only one indicator. Not folly, for sure.
You missed my point though. Delaware had very good teams in the years I included in my post. You were happy as a clam with the level of competition i'm sure. Doesn't make you a bad guy.
Maybe you're unable to separate your fandom for your team from the larger group, but I can.
It was that Delaware was very good, it was that there were MANY good teams. I often found myself with an abundance of teams to consider for the AGS Poll. Today, once I get past 5-6, the rest look like crap and I have a hard time finding 25 teams to rank.
And it is folly. The SWAC/MEAC example proves that.
Delaware, Montana? And of course App St and GSU are going to say it's down without them.
