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AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:12 am
by kalm
Here's this week's AGS Poll. Still the best human poll out there IMHO. Professor Chaos on AGS does yeoman's work in help putting it together as well as a weekly article breaking it all down.
Here's this week's poll article: http://thefcswedge.com/?p=5058&preview=true

My thoughts:
Come. On. Voters!!!! Kennesaw St the consensus #22 and Monmouth the consensus #23??? What more does Monmouth have have to do? I'm fine with Kennesaw St at #22... it's a bit high for my tastes but it's tough to find a lot of worth teams for that spot anyway but Monmouth is criminally underrated right now.
Montana St and SEMO moving up as much as they did was odd to me. They hopped over some teams like Princeton, Dartmouth, and CCSU that didn't make sense to me since neither Montana St or SEMO picked up wins that big and the teams they hopped over (maybe with the exception of Dartmouth) didn't look that bad picking up wins of their own.
Speaking of CCSU their #15 ranking is the highest ranking ever in the AGS Poll for a team from the NEC. Congrats to the Blue Devils!
AGS Poll Results - WEEK 10 - 2019 SEASON
11/4/2019

Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes
1 North Dakota State Bison 2050 82
2 James Madison Dukes 1945
3 Weber State Wildcats 1870
4 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1837
5 Northern Iowa Panthers 1626
6 Montana Grizzlies 1616
7 Sac State Hornets 1602
8 Central Arkansas Bears 1473
9 Furman Paladins 1348
10 Illinois State Redbirds 1193
11 Montana State Bobcats 1087
12 Princeton Tigers 914
13 Dartmouth Big Green 877
14T Southeast Missouri State Redhawks 780
14T Central Connecticut State Blue Devils 754
16 Villanova Wildcats 669
17 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 550
18 North Carolina A&T Aggies 499
19 Wofford Terriers 476
20T Florida A&M Rattlers 439
20T New Hampshire Wildcats 439
22 Kennesaw State Owls 409
23 Monmouth Hawks 387
24 Austin Peay Governors 377
25 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 259
ORV:
26 Towson Tigers 259
27 Southern Illinois Salukis 158
28 Stony Brook Seawolves 141
29 Sam Houston State Bearkats 123
30 The Citadel Bulldogs 109
31 Nicholls State Colonels 81
32 Richmond Spiders 79
33 San Diego Toreros 50
34T Southeastern Louisiana Lions 48
34T Yale Bulldogs 48
36 UC Davis Aggies 25
37 Maine Black Bears 12
38T Albany Great Danes 9
38T Youngstown State Penguins 9
40 Chattanooga Mocs 6

Most Significant Win: Weber State Wildcats
Most Significant Loss: Kennesaw State Owls

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:18 am
by dbackjon
So much better than the coaches poll

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:42 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:What more does Monmouth have have to do?
Squeakers over Lafayette and Wagner don't exactly blow up your skirt.

KSU shouldn't be ranked.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:55 am
by dbackjon
89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:What more does Monmouth have have to do?
Squeakers over Lafayette and Wagner don't exactly blow up your skirt.

KSU shouldn't be ranked.

I think that is more the point - if either are going to be ranked, it should be Monmouth.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:17 pm
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:
89Hen wrote: Squeakers over Lafayette and Wagner don't exactly blow up your skirt.

KSU shouldn't be ranked.

I think that is more the point - if either are going to be ranked, it should be Monmouth.
Agreed but IMO Monmouth is about where they should be.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 pm
by SDHornet
Surprised we didn't drop more. :?

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:29 am
by Gil Dobie
It's not as good as it used to be. They get after you if you don't vote along party lines. FAMU is #1 in the MEAC, and is behind #2 in the MEAC and they just beat them recently.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:38 am
by kalm
Gil Dobie wrote:It's not as good as it used to be. They get after you if you don't vote along party lines. FAMU is #1 in the MEAC, and is behind #2 in the MEAC and they just beat them recently.
You mean the poll? Criticism is what drives it and sets it apart. You are compelled to justify your decisions. Or you can choose to stay off the poll threads.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:39 am
by BDKJMU
Gil Dobie wrote:It's not as good as it used to be. They get after you if you don't vote along party lines. FAMU is #1 in the MEAC, and is behind #2 in the MEAC and they just beat them recently.
-MEAC like you said.
-KSU being in front of Monmouth
-VU being in front of UNH.

Probably a couple other examples but I’ve seen enough to know its another worthless poll. 2nd week in Nov and people can’t even get it right..

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:40 am
by 89Hen
Gil Dobie wrote:It's not as good as it used to be. They get after you if you don't vote along party lines. FAMU is #1 in the MEAC, and is behind #2 in the MEAC and they just beat them recently.
I know I used to ask people to explain inconsistencies. 9 times out of 10 the voter admitted they weren't really paying attention. Folks like Horney and Kalm who thought Monmouth had beaten Villanova. ;)

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:49 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:It's not as good as it used to be. They get after you if you don't vote along party lines. FAMU is #1 in the MEAC, and is behind #2 in the MEAC and they just beat them recently.
I know I used to ask people to explain inconsistencies. 9 times out of 10 the voter admitted they weren't really paying attention. Folks like Horney and Kalm who thought Monmouth had beaten Villanova. ;)
You’re such a douche... :lol:

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:55 am
by Gil Dobie
89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:It's not as good as it used to be. They get after you if you don't vote along party lines. FAMU is #1 in the MEAC, and is behind #2 in the MEAC and they just beat them recently.
I know I used to ask people to explain inconsistencies. 9 times out of 10 the voter admitted they weren't really paying attention. Folks like Horney and Kalm who thought Monmouth had beaten Villanova. ;)
That still happens, the admin is still good. IMO, it taints the poll when too many try to align themselves with what they think people will like vs how they really should vote.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:00 am
by 89Hen
Gil Dobie wrote:what they think people will like vs how they really should vote.
What you can defend is how you should vote. If you know folks are actually watching, you pay more attention.

There were a lot of folks upset with the "homer rule" I instituted, but it made sense IMO.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:05 am
by kalm
Gil Dobie wrote:
89Hen wrote: I know I used to ask people to explain inconsistencies. 9 times out of 10 the voter admitted they weren't really paying attention. Folks like Horney and Kalm who thought Monmouth had beaten Villanova. ;)
That still happens, the admin is still good. IMO, it taints the poll when too many try to align themselves with what they think people will like vs how they really should vote.
Gil...there are 400 weekly replies arguing over everything from the eyeball test to SoS from SCSU to UND. The homers and illogical get called out. Not that much getting along on there.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:05 am
by Gil Dobie
89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:what they think people will like vs how they really should vote.
What you can defend is how you should vote. If you know folks are actually watching, you pay more attention.

There were a lot of folks upset with the "homer rule" I instituted, but it made sense IMO.
Have you tried defending a vote with a horde of Bison Fans. :lol:

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:08 am
by kalm
Gil Dobie wrote:
89Hen wrote: What you can defend is how you should vote. If you know folks are actually watching, you pay more attention.

There were a lot of folks upset with the "homer rule" I instituted, but it made sense IMO.
Have you tried defending a vote with a horde of Bison Fans. :lol:
Well on that one we can agree. :lol:

But honestly, there as many rational Bizon fans as otherwise and to your credit, you are one of the best. :thumb:

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:08 am
by 89Hen
Gil Dobie wrote:
89Hen wrote: What you can defend is how you should vote. If you know folks are actually watching, you pay more attention.

There were a lot of folks upset with the "homer rule" I instituted, but it made sense IMO.
Have you tried defending a vote with a horde of Bison Fans. :lol:
You mean like not having NDSU #1 at all times? :D

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:10 am
by Gil Dobie
kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
That still happens, the admin is still good. IMO, it taints the poll when too many try to align themselves with what they think people will like vs how they really should vote.
Gil...there are 400 weekly replies arguing over everything from the eyeball test to SoS from SCSU to UND. The homers and illogical get called out. Not that much getting along on there.
Even the logical ones are illogical at some point.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:11 am
by Gil Dobie
89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Have you tried defending a vote with a horde of Bison Fans. :lol:
You mean like not having NDSU #1 at all times? :D
That could be one reason, or having UND in the poll.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:12 am
by Gil Dobie
kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Have you tried defending a vote with a horde of Bison Fans. :lol:
Well on that one we can agree. :lol:

But honestly, there as many rational Bizon fans as otherwise and to your credit, you are one of the best. :thumb:
Thanks :D

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:41 am
by UNI88
89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:It's not as good as it used to be. They get after you if you don't vote along party lines. FAMU is #1 in the MEAC, and is behind #2 in the MEAC and they just beat them recently.
I know I used to ask people to explain inconsistencies. 9 times out of 10 the voter admitted they weren't really paying attention. Folks like Horney and Kalm who thought Monmouth had beaten Villanova. ;)
Admin does ask people to explain inconsistencies and they do get called out if the voter posts their poll. I believe they were also pretty vocal in asking people to carefully consider where they placed Monmouth and Kennesaw. But people still screwed it up. This year and this week in particular were not the best for the AGS poll but it wasn't from lack of effort by the admins. It's also a strange year in that H2Hs have been more at odds with total bodies of work (Wofford/Samford) and the CAA is a snakepit below JMU.

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:47 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Have you tried defending a vote with a horde of Bison Fans. :lol:
Well on that one we can agree. :lol:

But honestly, there as many rational Bizon fans as otherwise and to your credit, you are one of the best. :thumb:

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That's actually an edited version? :? :kisswink:

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:01 am
by UNI88
89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
Well on that one we can agree. :lol:

But honestly, there as many rational Bizon fans as otherwise and to your credit, you are one of the best. :thumb:

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That's actually an edited version? :? :kisswink:
You're more feisty than normal today. Did your topless Eaton poster fall off the wall? :D

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:02 am
by 89Hen
UNI88 wrote:You're more feisty than normal today.
Not possible. :)

Re: AGS Poll Results 11/4/2019

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:03 am
by dbackjon
UNI88 wrote:
89Hen wrote: That's actually an edited version? :? :kisswink:
You're more feisty than normal today. Did your topless Eaton poster fall off the wall? :D

They have topless Eaton posters? :shock: