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Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:25 pm
by 89Hen
I think Wofford is still running it maybe.

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:43 pm
by 93henfan
Furman
Davidson
Jacksonville
Cal Poly

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:02 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:I think Wofford is still running it maybe.
Yep

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:08 pm
by SuperHornet
So, are we talking about the Wishbone, the Oregon Veer, the Delaware Wing T, or just running a lead option and/or speed option (with or without the pulling guard). I've known even West Coast teams run lead (or a G) option or a speed option as just a play within the regular offense. Does that count as "running the option," or does one have to have option as the basis of the offense?

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:16 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
SuperHornet wrote:So, are we talking about the Wishbone, the Oregon Veer, the Delaware Wing T, or just running a lead option and/or speed option (with or without the pulling guard). I've known even West Coast teams run lead (or a G) option or a speed option as just a play within the regular offense. Does that count as "running the option," or does one have to have option as the basis of the offense?
Does anybody run the wishbone anymore? :?

Most triple-option teams run the flexbone. I think some teams may run it out of multi-back pistol sets (a trend started by Sam Houston in 2011). I believe Air Force used to run it out of more conventional formations (I-Form, etc.), but I'm not sure they still do.

Re: RE: Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:48 pm
by UNI88
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:So, are we talking about the Wishbone, the Oregon Veer, the Delaware Wing T, or just running a lead option and/or speed option (with or without the pulling guard). I've known even West Coast teams run lead (or a G) option or a speed option as just a play within the regular offense. Does that count as "running the option," or does one have to have option as the basis of the offense?
Does anybody run the wishbone anymore? :?

Most triple-option teams run the flexbone. I think some teams may run it out of multi-back pistol sets (a trend started by Sam Houston in 2011). I believe Air Force used to run it out of more conventional formations (I-Form, etc.), but I'm not sure they still do.
I thought Air Force used a version of the flexbone too? Chip Kelly ran TO plays out of a 2 back set at Oregon. Not sure if it was before Sam Houston.

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Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:52 pm
by 93henfan
SuperHornet wrote:So, are we talking about the Wishbone, the Oregon Veer, the Delaware Wing T, or just running a lead option and/or speed option (with or without the pulling guard). I've known even West Coast teams run lead (or a G) option or a speed option as just a play within the regular offense. Does that count as "running the option," or does one have to have option as the basis of the offense?
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Re: RE: Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:51 pm
by Mvemjsunpx
UNI88 wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Does anybody run the wishbone anymore? :?

Most triple-option teams run the flexbone. I think some teams may run it out of multi-back pistol sets (a trend started by Sam Houston in 2011). I believe Air Force used to run it out of more conventional formations (I-Form, etc.), but I'm not sure they still do.
I thought Air Force used a version of the flexbone too? Chip Kelly ran TO plays out of a 2 back set at Oregon. Not sure if it was before Sam Houston.
I think AFA does now, but I'm not sure they did when Fisher DeBerry was there (1984-06). This video (from 2009) shows them running a TO play out of a 2-WR Maryland-I of all things:

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As for Chip Kelly… perhaps the most clever/oddball offensive scheme I've seen was the one he ran at UNH where half the plays were based off the Statue of Liberty Play. :lol:

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:37 am
by kalm
93henfan wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:So, are we talking about the Wishbone, the Oregon Veer, the Delaware Wing T, or just running a lead option and/or speed option (with or without the pulling guard). I've known even West Coast teams run lead (or a G) option or a speed option as just a play within the regular offense. Does that count as "running the option," or does one have to have option as the basis of the offense?
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Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:05 am
by SACCAT
Montana Sate runs the triple option the best of any school I have ever seen.

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:06 pm
by CID1990
SACCAT wrote:Montana Sate runs the triple option the best of any school I have ever seen.
This must be sarcasm


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Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:11 pm
by CID1990
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:So, are we talking about the Wishbone, the Oregon Veer, the Delaware Wing T, or just running a lead option and/or speed option (with or without the pulling guard). I've known even West Coast teams run lead (or a G) option or a speed option as just a play within the regular offense. Does that count as "running the option," or does one have to have option as the basis of the offense?
Does anybody run the wishbone anymore? :?

Most triple-option teams run the flexbone. I think some teams may run it out of multi-back pistol sets (a trend started by Sam Houston in 2011). I believe Air Force used to run it out of more conventional formations (I-Form, etc.), but I'm not sure they still do.
Anybody running the option right now runs it out of the flexbone as their base formation

Air Force has a tendency to use varied sets, but their bread and butter is the flexbone just like everybody else

We have occasionally showed a wishbone formation but that is just a stunt to mess with opposing DCs- just like Air Force with the 3-back I formation

BTW has anybody mentioned Kennesaw State yet? They were the best option team in FCS last year


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Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:36 pm
by 93henfan
Delaware's offense has been optional for the past eight seasons. So has the defense sometimes.

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:52 pm
by SACCAT
CID1990 wrote:
SACCAT wrote:Montana Sate runs the triple option the best of any school I have ever seen.
This must be sarcasm


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We are the best at everything... But last year we did run the Wishbone/Flexbone ( did both at different times) quit a bit because our starting QB was suppose to be our starting LB... He ended up being All-Big Sky

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:46 pm
by CID1990
SACCAT wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
This must be sarcasm


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We are the best at everything... But last year we did run the Wishbone/Flexbone ( did both at different times) quit a bit because our starting QB was suppose to be our starting LB... He ended up being All-Big Sky
Yeah it made such an impact that nobody knew


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Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:01 pm
by SACCAT
CID1990 wrote:
SACCAT wrote:
We are the best at everything... But last year we did run the Wishbone/Flexbone ( did both at different times) quit a bit because our starting QB was suppose to be our starting LB... He ended up being All-Big Sky
Yeah it made such an impact that nobody knew


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Everybody knew.... They just didnt want to remember.

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:49 am
by andy7171
Maryland I formation?

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:39 pm
by SuperHornet
Just looked up the Flexbone. I hadn't seen it before. It's basically the old Double Wing Formation. So someone running the Flexbone is essentially using Wishbone principles instead of Single/Double Wing principles out of the same formation. Interesting....

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:55 pm
by CID1990
SuperHornet wrote:Just looked up the Flexbone. I hadn't seen it before. It's basically the old Double Wing Formation. So someone running the Flexbone is essentially using Wishbone principles instead of Single/Double Wing principles out of the same formation. Interesting....
Flexbone... Broken Bone .... whatever the name

Yes, it is simply a Wishbone with the halfbacks split out inside the TEs. It give the strong side runners a head start on the corner of the formation and allows for less motion predictability.

But in simplest terms, it is still the wishbone and the QB still has 3 running/pitching options.


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Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:35 am
by SACCAT
CID1990 wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:Just looked up the Flexbone. I hadn't seen it before. It's basically the old Double Wing Formation. So someone running the Flexbone is essentially using Wishbone principles instead of Single/Double Wing principles out of the same formation. Interesting....
Flexbone... Broken Bone .... whatever the name

Yes, it is simply a Wishbone with the halfbacks split out inside the TEs. It give the strong side runners a head start on the corner of the formation and allows for less motion predictability.

But in simplest terms, it is still the wishbone and the QB still has 3 running/pitching options.


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Cats ran this play a lot throughout the season.... Sure not a true triple Option, more of a Zone read

https://youtu.be/skTAPOFt7Qc?t=81

Re: Teams That Run The Option

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:27 pm
by SuperHornet
CID1990 wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:Just looked up the Flexbone. I hadn't seen it before. It's basically the old Double Wing Formation. So someone running the Flexbone is essentially using Wishbone principles instead of Single/Double Wing principles out of the same formation. Interesting....
Flexbone... Broken Bone .... whatever the name

Yes, it is simply a Wishbone with the halfbacks split out inside the TEs. It give the strong side runners a head start on the corner of the formation and allows for less motion predictability.

But in simplest terms, it is still the wishbone and the QB still has 3 running/pitching options.


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Looks quite similar to the offense my juco offensive coordinator (later my HS head coach; which is odd given that he played for our cross-town rivals and supposedly burned his HS letter jacket in front of the team to "prove" his loyalty to the program) invented, which pretty much guaranteed that the defense was wrong. He would shift between this and the traditional wishbone, usually running out of the 'Bone and passing out of this, with a "usual" quarterback assigned to each. But they couldn't exactly key on THAT, either, because both QBs ran plays out of both sets. We may have run some option out of this Double Wing set, but we usually passed out of it. We probably had some short passes out of the 'Bone, too.

I was stuck upstairs filming practice and games because our dumb AD forgot to inform me of the deadline for physicals that year and refused to let me go outside the school to get it done. What a jerk. Anyways, we won a bowl game that season, and I still wear the ring occasionally (on my pinky because I still have to get the stinking thing resized).