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Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:35 am
by kalm
6 out of the 13 starters are out.
Must be those hard hitting Big Sky defenses.
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Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:09 am
by Wildcat Ryan
Here's hoping 4 star recruit Jack Tuttle who is supposedly transferring from Utah will unexpectedly pick Weber....heck it could happen, a 3 star WR de-commited from UCLA to play for Weber

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:38 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:6 out of the 13 starters are out.
Must be those hard hitting Big Sky defenses.
I was guessing it was more likely carpal tunnel or Tommy John surgery from repetitive throwing.
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:45 am
by css75
Wildcat Ryan wrote:Here's hoping 4 star recruit Jack Tuttle who is supposedly transferring from Utah will unexpectedly pick Weber....heck it could happen, a 3 star WR de-commited from UCLA to play for Weber

I was hoping for ISU, he doesn’t have to redshirt for FCS, and Gueller is leaving so there is a starting spot to fill.
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Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:39 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:6 out of the 13 starters are out.
Must be those hard hitting Big Sky defenses.
I was guessing it was more likely carpal tunnel or Tommy John surgery from repetitive throwing.
Haha!
4 BSC teams are in the top 20 and before last weekend, 2 were top 10. 8 teams are in the top 50.
There are 5 BSC RB's and one QB who are in the top 20 in rushing yards.
Cripes...there are even 4 BSC in the top 50 in rushing defense.
For comparison, their are 2 CAA teams in the top 40 (JMU 38, Towson 39).
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:49 am
by Silenoz
Get back to me when you're playing a TE at QB
...or a LB...
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:00 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:
I was guessing it was more likely carpal tunnel or Tommy John surgery from repetitive throwing.
Haha!
4 BSC teams are in the top 20 and before last weekend, 2 were top 10. 8 teams are in the top 50.
There are 5 BSC RB's and one QB who are in the top 20 in rushing yards.
Cripes...there are even 4 BSC in the top 50 in rushing defense.
For comparison, their are 2 CAA teams in the top 40 (JMU 38, Towson 39).
Two can cherry pick.
Total Defense
5 James Madison
8 Maine
16 Villanova
27 Elon
30 Rhode Island
31 Delaware
32 Weber St
34 New Hampshire
38 Stony Brook
40 Towson
By my count that's 9 to 1 in the top 40.

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:31 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
Haha!
4 BSC teams are in the top 20 and before last weekend, 2 were top 10. 8 teams are in the top 50.
There are 5 BSC RB's and one QB who are in the top 20 in rushing yards.
Cripes...there are even 4 BSC in the top 50 in rushing defense.
For comparison, their are 2 CAA teams in the top 40 (JMU 38, Towson 39).
Two can cherry pick.
Total Defense
5 James Madison
8 Maine
16 Villanova
27 Elon
30 Rhode Island
31 Delaware
32 Weber St
34 New Hampshire
38 Stony Brook
40 Towson
By my count that's 9 to 1 in the top 40.

Yep good defense vs good offense.
There's also some difference in oppnents. BSC defenses tend to face a few PAC 12 offenses each year which are pretty tough. For example, compare WSU to UCONN. Or for FCS OOC compare Holy Cross to SDSU.
IIRC, the few times a CAA team faces a BSC team in the playoffs, the scoring is above the CAA teams average.
But my point is that BSC offenses are getting more run happy and there are a few defenses that are improving as well.
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:40 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:IIRC, the few times a CAA team faces a BSC team in the playoffs, the scoring is above the CAA teams average.
Good grief, you've gone to the Gil Dobie School of the Obvious.... playoff teams tend to be better than average regular season teams.

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:16 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:IIRC, the few times a CAA team faces a BSC team in the playoffs, the scoring is above the CAA teams average.
Good grief, you've gone to the Gil Dobie School of the Obvious.... playoff teams tend to be better than average regular season teams.

On just offense or defense as well?

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:46 pm
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:
Good grief, you've gone to the Gil Dobie School of the Obvious.... playoff teams tend to be better than average regular season teams.

On just offense or defense as well?

Put it this way, in 2010 EWU was held under 21 points only once until the NC game when they only scored 13.
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:54 pm
by Silenoz
CAA vs Big Sky. What is this, 2009?
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:56 pm
by 89Hen
Silenoz wrote:CAA vs Big Sky. What is this, 2009?
I know right? Since then it's been CAA vs MVFC.
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:56 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
On just offense or defense as well?

Put it this way, in 2010 EWU was held under 21 points only once until the NC game when they only scored 13.
Still 10 above UD’s ppg allowed ( if I use your math.

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And we put up 38 on Nova the week before and that was the worst offense we've had datimgvfrom today back to 2006.
You’d be better off citing the W&M - Weber playoff game. (Just trying to help you out)
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:16 pm
by Wildcat Ryan
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:
Put it this way, in 2010 EWU was held under 21 points only once until the NC game when they only scored 13.
Still 10 above UD’s ppg allowed ( if I use your math.

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And we put up 38 on Nova the week before and that was the worst offense we've had datimgvfrom today back to 2006.
You’d be better off citing the W&M - Weber playoff game. (Just trying to help you out)
Or not and just forget it ever happened

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:24 pm
by Silenoz
89Hen wrote:Silenoz wrote:CAA vs Big Sky. What is this, 2009?
I know right? Since then it's been NDSU vs JMU
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:26 pm
by kalm
Silenoz wrote:89Hen wrote:
I know right? Since then it's been NDSU vs JMU
Towson snuck in there too.
They had a really good offense that year...kind of like this one.

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:28 pm
by Silenoz
kalm wrote:Silenoz wrote:
Towson snuck in there too.
They had a really good offense that year...kind of like this one.

I don't remember that. Fake news.
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:07 pm
by kalm
Silenoz wrote:kalm wrote:
Towson snuck in there too.
They had a really good offense that year...kind of like this one.

I don't remember that. Fake news.
Perhaps last year’s Weber State offense which was held to less points by SUU, a 1-10 Poly, and WIU than JMU?
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:57 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:Silenoz wrote:
I don't remember that. Fake news.
Perhaps last year’s Weber State offense which was held to less points by SUU, a 1-10 Poly, and WIU than JMU?
SUU, the team Weber split with. JMU was 1-0 vs them, so yeah, nice point.

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:59 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
Perhaps last year’s Weber State offense which was held to less points by SUU, a 1-10 Poly, and WIU than JMU?
SUU, the team Weber split with. JMU was 1-0 vs them, so yeah, nice point.

Points scored and defense being what we were talking...so thanks.
Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:29 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:89Hen wrote:
SUU, the team Weber split with. JMU was 1-0 vs them, so yeah, nice point.

Points scored and defense being what we were talking...so thanks.
CAA defense > Big Sky defense

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:38 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
Points scored and defense being what we were talking...so thanks.
CAA defense > Big Sky defense

Never said it wasn't. Just that the Big Sky defenses face better offenses and that the defenses haven't been improving a little.

Re: Big Sky QB Bloodbath
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:21 am
by dal4018
Wildcat Ryan wrote:Here's hoping 4 star recruit Jack Tuttle who is supposedly transferring from Utah will unexpectedly pick Weber....heck it could happen, a 3 star WR de-commited from UCLA to play for Weber

Wow what made them leave the big schools!!!!!!